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jrajf 11-09-2010 11:07 AM

brilliant account from across the pond
 
a must read for anyone who witnessed the drama on saturday


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/r...t-2128089.html

richard 11-09-2010 11:21 AM

"A gift from God" should be the HOY . A miraculous filly , 30 lengths back , unbeaten in her career except for a long nose in the greatest of all races this year .

Haynesfield, 22 3/4 L behind the leaders at the finish of the BC, beat Blame by 4L in the JCGC . Blame is 13-9-2-2 lifetime . 5-4-1 this year. The defending BC champion Zenyatta loses her only race ever by a nose to Blame coming from 30L back . 20-19-1 lifetime, 6-5-1 this year . Clearly Zenyatta is HOY .

Sightseek 11-09-2010 11:40 AM

Wonderful read, thanks for posting.

(although I think the part about her submitting to Blame for breeding sounds like Sumitas wrote it)

lemoncrush 11-09-2010 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 721015)
Wonderful read, thanks for posting.

(although I think the part about her submitting to Blame for breeding sounds like Sumitas wrote it)

I was just going to comment on that.
I almost threw up a little in my mouth after reading that paragraph.

tector 11-09-2010 11:57 AM

So, a horse that has won no open Grade 1s all year, and is beaten on the track by another horse that is now 3 out of 4 in open Grade 1s this year, should be HOY ahead of him. Remember, each horse has lost only one race this year.

If the name was not Zenyatta, no horse racing fan in their right mind would make this argument. This is cultish behavior. Act like frigging adults already.

richard 11-09-2010 12:00 PM

She lost by a nose and Blame lost by 4 L to the horse that finished 22 3/4 L behind both in the BC .

Kris S is the broodmare sire of Zenyatta and the grandsire of Blame .

tector 11-09-2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by richard (Post 721022)
She lost by a nose and Blame lost by 4 L to the horse that finished 22 3/4 L behind both in the BC .

Kris S is the broodmare sire of Zenyatta and the grandsire of Blame .

And she would have lost that same race by 15 lengths on that lone-f pace scenario. You can't possibly be as big an idiot as you pretend to be, not if you still know how to breathe.

jrajf 11-09-2010 01:34 PM

geez..
 
the original post was for everyone to enjoy the prose put forth by Luck
It was not intended to become ANOTHER battlefield for pro con Zenyatta.

By the way the inbreeding pattern looks ok

tector 11-09-2010 01:40 PM

Whose inbreeding, richard's?

Lovely prose is a fine thing, so long as it is not a mask for illogic. Just move on already.

jrajf 11-09-2010 02:18 PM

thanks spock

tector 11-09-2010 02:28 PM

OK, we'll decide things like racing is a petting zoo contest.

Which animal is our most favorite, boys and girls?

Indian Charlie 11-09-2010 02:36 PM

Ohhhh, ohhh, I know this one!!

Indian Charlie!

tector 11-09-2010 02:41 PM

Yes, he is very pretty when his groom ties a ribbon on his tail.

Oh wait--you mean the horse.

lemoncrush 11-09-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tector (Post 721024)
And she would have lost that same race by 15 lengths on that lone-f pace scenario. You can't possibly be as big an idiot as you pretend to be, not if you still know how to breathe.

I agree...this logic is even dumber than most of the Pro-zenyatta threads (and I'm not a basher at all, just a realist).
Using this same logic, how wide of a margin do you think Blame would crush Rinterval or or any of the other allowance-level fillies that Zenyatta squeaked by this year? It's all irrelevant.

blackthroatedwind 11-09-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tector (Post 721024)
And she would have lost that same race by 15 lengths on that lone-f pace scenario. You can't possibly be as big an idiot as you pretend to be, not if you still know how to breathe.



Bob Dylan would be proud.

Nice one.

tector 11-09-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 721100)
Bob Dylan would be proud.

Nice one.

Inadvertent, sorry. I have loved that song since I was about 14 (when it came out), so it is deeply ingrained, I guess.

Forgive me, Zimmerman!

blackthroatedwind 11-09-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tector (Post 721105)
Inadvertent, sorry. I have loved that song since I was about 14 (when it came out), so it is deeply ingrained, I guess.

Forgive me, Zimmerman!

Greatest song and well used in my opinion.

Dahoss 11-09-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by richard (Post 721009)
"A gift from God" should be the HOY . A miraculous filly , 30 lengths back , unbeaten in her career except for a long nose in the greatest of all races this year .

Haynesfield, 22 3/4 L behind the leaders at the finish of the BC, beat Blame by 4L in the JCGC . Blame is 13-9-2-2 lifetime . 5-4-1 this year. The defending BC champion Zenyatta loses her only race ever by a nose to Blame coming from 30L back . 20-19-1 lifetime, 6-5-1 this year . Clearly Zenyatta is HOY .

Now she was 30 lengths back? Stick to posting about Finger Lakes and Golden Missile.

Indian Charlie 11-09-2010 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 721155)
By January, it will be Silky Sullivan-like 41 lengths. And that she had to go nine-wide at the top of the stretch.

You know that it's coming.

Some bidiot guy on here said she lost seven lengths when she steadied!!!

Crown@club 11-09-2010 05:25 PM

She was 50 lengths back. Went 20 wide. Up the hill. Both ways. In the snow. Against 100 mph winds.......

DaTruth 11-09-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus (Post 721160)
...and threw all four shoes... Smith lost the irons...

and the guy who took a swing at Artax returned to the "ring" and tried to suckerpunch her at the 1/8th pole.

Indian Charlie 11-09-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club (Post 721159)
She was 50 lengths back. Went 20 wide. Up the hill. Both ways. In the snow. Against 100 mph winds.......

Not only did she have to go against 100 mph headwinds, but everyone else got a 100 mph tailwind at the same time!

my miss storm cat 11-09-2010 08:12 PM

... and she was blindfolded.

I can't believe you MORONS forgot that part.

Rudeboyelvis 11-09-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 721210)
... and she was blindfolded.

I can't believe you MORONS forgot that part.

Easy Gooey.... This is a family show.

my miss storm cat 11-09-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 721212)
Easy Gooey.... This is a family show.

... but I was doing my best impersonation of TFM. :wf :p

Indian Charlie 11-09-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 721217)
... but I was doing my best impersonation of TFM. :wf :p

Not enough vitriol.

It was a good first try though!

my miss storm cat 11-09-2010 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 721247)
Not enough vitriol.

It was a good first try though!

Thank you!

I'll work on it.

Hey maybe we could have a contest where once a week...

Nah. Forget it.

Indian Charlie 11-09-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 721347)
Thank you!

I'll work on it.

Hey maybe we could have a contest where once a week...

Nah. Forget it.

Hey, why not?

We already have an unofficial contest among the Zenyattards as to who can come up with the stupidest post of the minute.

my miss storm cat 11-09-2010 09:42 PM

I said this elsewhere so I'm just going to say it... I hated the piece.

Pretentious, affected and wanna-be intellectual...

No thanks.

my miss storm cat 11-09-2010 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 721357)
Hey, why not?

We already have an unofficial contest among the Zenyattards as to who can come up with the stupidest post of the minute.

:D

I'd ask who is winning but I think I'd rather guess and leave it at that.

Indian Charlie 11-09-2010 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 721360)
:D

I'd ask who is winning but I think I'd rather guess and leave it at that.

The thing is MMSC, there aren't any winners. Just whiners and losers.

They are sure trying their stupid little hearts out though.

Sightseek 11-09-2010 09:55 PM

I guess you had to be at Churchill on Saturday.

blackthroatedwind 11-09-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 721379)
I guess you had to be at Churchill on Saturday.

Actually, isn't it sort of the opposite? Shouldn't emotion be taken out of it?

Don't get me wrong, it was obviously a great racing moment, and while you didn't have to be at Churchill to feel it, I'm sure it was exponentially more electric being there. .

richard 11-10-2010 12:42 AM

"God has spoken" and Zenyatta is the chosen one . Priaise the Lord .

Merlinsky 11-10-2010 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 721210)
... and she was blindfolded.

I can't believe you MORONS forgot that part.

They also spun her around, put a piñata up at the finish line, and gave her a stick to carry in her teeth during the race. To win, she not only had to finish first, she had to knock out all the candy.

Danzig 11-10-2010 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 721379)
I guess you had to be at Churchill on Saturday.

so her close second outweighs all the bs racing she did the rest of the year? if she doesn't get hoy, it isn't her fault. that responsibility lies squarely on her owners shoulders.

tector 11-10-2010 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 721421)
so her close second outweighs all the bs racing she did the rest of the year? if she doesn't get hoy, it isn't her fault. that responsibility lies squarely on her owners shoulders.

Obviously. They put all their chips on red and it came up black. It isn't much harder than that to understand.


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