great and/or obscure horses
 

I have a reason for asking this, so it's not some little trip down memory lane sort of thing.

If you could get videos for some of the great horses, or horses that might have been great if not cut short, of the last 20-25 years, who would you want to see?

And I don't mean horses you just were fond of because you made a big score on. These had to be really really good horses, horses that were really nice but maybe under appreciated, or horses that made a strong impression, but for whatever reason, never really panned out (or just never ran again).

An example of this would be a horse like Cees Tizzy, who was one of the fastest horses I've ever seen, but few people know about beyond his success as a stallion of a few good horses.

Win.

Really? The NY bred Win?

Yessir

'85 Man o War winner.

Yeah, I remember him very well. Was probably the only good NYbred of the entire 1980's.

Thunder Puddles? Thunder Rumble? Fourstardave? Cupecoy's Joy?

Garthorn's Met Mile and Westchester. Taylor's Special's Blue Grass and Louisiana Derby. Phone Trick's San Carlos and True North.

Have you found of stash of old racing videos?

It's possible for me to get the videos down the road.

Nothing definite, but for reasons that are difficult to explain, I'd need to know requests soon.

I hope it comes to fruition.

Fourstardave to me was more a 90s horse, but ok.

thunder rumble was certainly 90s.

Thunder puddles was no Win.

cupecoys joy was just before my time really.

True. Thunder Rumble won the '92 Travers. Was thinking it was like '86. I was young.

There weren't many, regardless- I had actually just looked at a bunch from that era the other day when the question of NYB's in the BC came up. Most of the pedigrees were so nondescript, any that ended up great was sheer luck. Not so these days.

Yeah, clearly things are different.

NY had a lower quality breeding program than Washington state. Also, California, Fla obviously, maybe Maryland and VA too.

I still don't think they should count horses sired by stallions standing in KY as NY breds though.

Kantharos comes to mind this year.

Xtra Heat.

Mr. Nickerson...

Lost Mountain...

Yonder..

Kings Swan, Gentleman, Safely Kept

Mom's Command

melair.

I had forgotten about Lost Mountain. Loblolly definitely had some nice horses. It was neat how Anthony named most of his horses after obscure Arkansas places.

What happened to Loblolly?

Anthony operating under "Shortleaf Stables" these days. Has been buying some. Tim Ice training for them.

The Loblolly name has been gone for a long ass time.

I thought their names were corny sounding - Prairie Bayou, Pine Bluff, Lost Mountain etc .... why not just name the horses after strip clubs in Arkansas?

Nice call on Garthorn. His Met was a great race.

Yeah, but I mean what happened to them? They were really good for awhile and then suddenly, they seemed to fall off the map with having good runners.

Demaloot Demashoot.

Java Gold's Whitney and Quiet American's NYRA Mile.

Citidancer and Spend A Buck.

Waya 1978 Turf Classic and Man O'War
Great Contractor 1976 Jockey Club Gold Cup
Bold Forbes 1976 Tremont and Saratoga Special
El Pitirre 1974 Remsen
Pine Tree Lane 1987 Distaff, Carter and breaking her maiden in 1985 for Sabarese/Parisella

My Juliet 1976 Vosburgh
Revidere 1976 Ruffian

I sent payment to John Imbriale at NYRA to dig these up.

Bold Forbes's 2YO races were 1975.

Timely Writer

ETA: I would love to see Waya too!

My bad.

[/QUOTE=blackthroatedwind;720900]Nice call on Garthorn. His Met was a great race.[/quote]


He beat a real nice field. Proud Truth (BC Winner) Lady's Secret (BC Winner) Smile (BC Winner) along with Turkoman and Love that Mac

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At the wire

Was a big fan of the sire of Garthorn.

In fact, Believe It sired what might have been the single most spectacular talent I've seen.

Speaking of Garthorn winning in NY, what ever happened to those owners?

Don't go there. He might have been the best horse JM ever owned.

I have no idea what you are talking about!

Seriously, they used to ship all the time. What happened to them?

Didn't they also have Ruhlman and Fighting Fit?

Yep!

Mat Boy - GP Handicap 83?
Slew the Dragon - Lashkari stakes or Hollywood derby both 85
Smokin Mel -Gotham 97