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RockHardTen1985 11-08-2010 05:28 PM

Handicap Division 2011
 
Who is the leader?

For my money, right now it has to be Morning Line.
I still cant beleive how well he ran.

ateamstupid 11-08-2010 05:40 PM

Friend or Foe.

MaTH716 11-08-2010 05:40 PM

Quality Road, if he ever finishes the Classic........

RockHardTen1985 11-08-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 720462)
Quality Road, if he ever finishes the Classic........

This was supposed to be serious. Kinda sick of the Zenyatta Blame talk. I like talking horses.

RockHardTen1985 11-08-2010 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 720461)
Friend or Foe.


I dont trust the trainer, but would not blame anyone for being high on him.
Who else is there?

my miss storm cat 11-08-2010 05:46 PM

Noble's Promise is coming back next year, correct?

my miss storm cat 11-08-2010 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 720462)
Quality Road, if he ever finishes the Classic........

Retired.

Wonder why he... oh well, not important.

RockHardTen1985 11-08-2010 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 720468)
Noble's Promise is coming back next year, correct?

I think sprinting, but who knows.

ateamstupid 11-08-2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 720468)
Noble's Promise is coming back next year, correct?

If they try to stretch him out again, I'm gonna lose it. He's a crack sprinter/miler in the making.

10 pnt move up 11-08-2010 05:51 PM

I for one can't wait to see Super Saver next year, he should be that much better.

RockHardTen1985 11-08-2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 720477)
I for one can't wait to see Super Saver next year, he should be that much better.

He is retired.

my miss storm cat 11-08-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 720479)
He is retired.

... as is QR.

Only saying it cause he was mentioned...

MaTH716 11-08-2010 05:53 PM

What about Looking at Lucky, is he retired yet?

my miss storm cat 11-08-2010 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 720484)
What about Looking at Lucky, is he retired yet?

By the time I post no he might be. :D

RockHardTen1985 11-08-2010 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 720484)
What about Looking at Lucky, is he retired yet?


I guess he would have to be right on top. Where would Bob run him? West? Dubai? Ship east?
I know GOAT1a has big plans for Dublin.

RockHardTen1985 11-08-2010 05:56 PM

What about Tizway? He could win the Met Mile with a better ride.

10 pnt move up 11-08-2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 720493)
I guess he would have to be right on top. Where would Bob run him? West? Dubai? Ship east?
I know GOAT1a has big plans for Dublin.

He will never run on that plastic crap at santa anita...looks like the Donn.

Betsy 11-08-2010 05:57 PM

Fly Down

10 pnt move up 11-08-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betsy (Post 720497)
Fly Down

Its going to be nice to bet against him in his next race, just hope there is a viable alternative.

RockHardTen1985 11-08-2010 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 720498)
Its going to be nice to bet against him in his next race, just hope there is a viable alternative.

With his style, there will always be a good alternative... Especially at Gulfstream.

ateamstupid 11-08-2010 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 720492)
By the time I post no he might be. :D

I laughed. It really is sad.

my miss storm cat 11-08-2010 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 720505)
I laughed. It really is sad.

Agree.

Hey does anyone know about Musket Man?

NTamm1215 11-08-2010 06:02 PM

Fly Down is supposedly going to Saudi Arabia because his new owner is from there.

Apart could turn out to be OK, his Ack Ack win was considerably better than his Super Derby and he's obviously a late bloomer.

First Dude will still be around I'm sure, hopefully after he wins a N1X.

On another note, Mott said Unrivaled Belle will be back next year.

RockHardTen1985 11-08-2010 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 720509)
Fly Down is supposedly going to Saudi Arabia because his new owner is from there.

Apart could turn out to be OK, his Ack Ack win was considerably better than his Super Derby and he's obviously a late bloomer.

First Dude will still be around I'm sure, hopefully after he wins a N1X.

On another note, Mott said Unrivaled Belle will be back next year.


I loved Aparts race. To me, it seemed like he was moved really early, and wide. Made a few different moves and won off. Should be OK next year.

Betsy 11-08-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 720509)
Fly Down is supposedly going to Saudi Arabia because his new owner is from there.

Apart could turn out to be OK, his Ack Ack win was considerably better than his Super Derby and he's obviously a late bloomer.

First Dude will still be around I'm sure, hopefully after he wins a N1X.

On another note, Mott said Unrivaled Belle will be back next year.


I haven't heard that. I assumed he was, but Zito spoke with the owner and it appears he's being pointed for the Dubai World Cup. I hope that means he'll stick around all year.

MaTH716 11-08-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 720509)
Fly Down is supposedly going to Saudi Arabia because his new owner is from there.

Apart could turn out to be OK, his Ack Ack win was considerably better than his Super Derby and he's obviously a late bloomer.

First Dude will still be around I'm sure, hopefully after he wins a N1X.
On another note, Mott said Unrivaled Belle will be back next year.

I like First Dude and think he is a very game horse, but more suited to run at a mile.

10 pnt move up 11-08-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 720509)
Fly Down is supposedly going to Saudi Arabia because his new owner is from there.

Apart could turn out to be OK, his Ack Ack win was considerably better than his Super Derby and he's obviously a late bloomer.

First Dude will still be around I'm sure, hopefully after he wins a N1X.

On another note, Mott said Unrivaled Belle will be back next year.

Looking at Lucky might not lose next year and not have to do much running to do it......he can be last years Zenyatta.

NTamm1215 11-08-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 720531)
Looking at Lucky might not lose next year and not have to do much running to do it......he can be last years Zenyatta.

I was assuming he's going to be retired after Mike Pegram's soliloquy about "economics" after the Hoosier Derby. If he's back, yes, he's going to be a major player. Until Uncle Mo starts facing elders of course.

Indian Charlie 11-08-2010 07:11 PM

Zenyatta.

pweizer 11-08-2010 08:18 PM

Blind Luck.

Paul

RockHardTen1985 11-08-2010 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 720687)
Blind Luck.

Paul



They have run her a lot and all, but she is yet to face males......

VOL JACK 11-08-2010 08:23 PM

Looks like Zito is holding a strong hand w/ Fly Down and Morning Line.
As long as it doesn't involve a photo finish.
L@L should be tough if he stays sound.....because he can handle any surface and track.

Dahoss 11-08-2010 08:45 PM

Apart, Admiral Alex and Trickmeister

tjfla 11-08-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 720712)
Apart, Admiral Alex and Trickmeister

If u listen to IEAH Trickmeister is the Classic Champ already

Not sure if anyone caught it but Concord Point has been retired and is in stud

RockHardTen1985 11-08-2010 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 720714)
If u listen to IEAH Trickmeister is the Classic Champ already

Not sure if anyone caught it but Concord Point has been retired and is in stud


Trickmeister does not exsist till further notice......
How many spots was he going to run in, then nothing. The horse he blew away at Toga came back to be blown away at short odds.

philcski 11-08-2010 09:45 PM

Apart and Afleet Express (assuming he comes back OK.)

Indian Charlie 11-08-2010 10:25 PM

Rule might make some noise next year.

hockey2315 11-08-2010 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski (Post 720765)
Apart and Afleet Express (assuming he comes back OK.)

Yup. . . He does have the Jerkens curse, though.

iamthelurker 11-08-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 720810)
Yup. . . He does have the Jerkens curse, though.

Yeah being among the top 5 best trainers on the grounds is always a curse....:zz:

hockey2315 11-08-2010 11:17 PM

I'm a big Jerkens fan, but his horses rarely stay healthy.


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