Goldikova to stay in training!
 

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According to TDN alert.

I hope the other mare stays in training also, who knows, if she is willing why not?

Yeah, it seems as though Zenyatta is at least on the fence about retiring, or her connections are in any event.

On one hand I am happy to hear this, but also wonder "why"? What more does she need to prove?

Why does there have to be something left to prove? Why can't you race a racehorse who's sound and talented? This is great news.

She does not have to prove anything. Why do you think she has to run to prove something? If she is still healthy and competitive at a Group 1 or Grade 1 level then why not keep her in training. The sport does not need breeding stock. The sport needs healthy competitve horses with some longevity.

I get it.. I just found it odd. Especially in today's racing world.

This is fantastic news. Saturday's win was the most explosive move I've ever seen.

Call me a wussy, but I just get queasy about decisions like this. I know all the reasons to do it, but after a certain point it just feels like pressing one's luck. This mare is so deservedly beloved by us all, that if something happened to her next year, it would be devastating. Not my $$$, not my horse, but I'd say, you've done enough, baby, time to relax and take the high hard one (yes, I know--foaling is risky too).

Now that I've said this, I've virtually assured her of a lights-out season next year. And I will be very happy to have been so wrong.

IMO She's a racehorse first and a broodmare 2nd. If economically she can make more money racing than a foal will produce (which surely is the case) shouldn't that be the major factor in bringing her back? Not to mention attempting a possible 4rth Breeders Cup? Wonder when that will happen again?

If she's sound let her race.

While Blame walks away.

They should bring him back and campaign him like a champion. Which, to some people on this board, apparently means keeping him in restricted races on the same circuit all year.

You know those crazy Euros.:rolleyes:

Serious question...
With this pedigree,running style, and lowish beyers will there really be a big demand at stud for him? I thought for sure he would be back next year.

Excellent

Maybe they'll actually run her for the BIG money in classic distance contests (Arc, BCT) next fall … or bring her back over to see if she's top class on different surfaces (Met Mile) like that big Cali mare... :D

He won the Clark, Foster, Whitney and Breeders' Cup Classic and ran second in the Jockey Club Gold Cup and Super Derby. There's nothing wrong with his pedigree. Arch gets plenty of useful classic distance runners and throws both dirt and turf runners. His dam and granddam were both six-figure earners and his dam is a half to Archipenko. People who want stayers will most likely love him at stud.

The irony of a Zenyatta fan taking shots at Goldikova's campaigns is so comical my brain can't actually process it enough to laugh.

She's the GOAT, ateam … why not stick her in the biggest and richest races (Arc, BCT)??? :D

He is why I coined the term Zenyattard.

His stupidity is inspiring.

I agree. Even though I am a big Zenyatta fan she is not even close to Goldikova

Still would like both to come back next year

BTW I also think a huge part of Zenyatta's appeal is the style she runs, coming from way off, like a Hollywood screen play would likely be written.

Well next year she's gonna be a SIX year old mare, so she should just run in a bunch of prep races and prepare for one big shot in November, right? :cool:

The Breeders Cup Turf? Look, I know you don't bet or really follow the sport but come on. The Mile this year was so much better than the Turf in terms of quality it's scary.

While we are at it though, by your line of thinking, I hope to see Zenyatta in the Dubai World Cup and Arc next year. Biggest and richest races, right?

I think many people, especially the common man, do like this. Among diehard fans, I think the "take the race by the throat and crush the spirit of your opponents" types are far more preferred.

I expect Smooth Operator is looking forward to Goldikova and Zenyatta facing off in the Kentucky Derby next year.

No problem with that … as long as the big one in Nov for the GOAT is either the BCT or BCC...

Too long to wait--how about the Sunshine Millions?

Right, because those are the only two races in the world that matter. Keep reaching, hopefully you'll fall off the edge eventually.

BCT should be a walk in the park for the GOAT ... right, Dahoss?

Listen, if Zenyatta had been any good they would have taken her to the Summit of Speed one year and had her run in (and win) every race on the card. They never did that with her, so I can only assume that means that her connections recognized that she was a no-talent mule.

My how a year changes someone's opinion, especially when that year includes a 4-5 campaign and a victory over the greatest horse evar.

I was right... Thanks, bro...
BTW, you made me hate Blame.

Can the GOAT STAY THE (CLASSIC) DISTANCE … or is she just an 8f turf specialist???

In America I guess 10f on dirt is the classic distance/surface pairing.

They can't all be great at that though. I mean sure Zenyatta won a lot of 10f dirt races but.....oh wait.....no.....she never even won a single race like that.



Please note:
My ability to like Zenyatta lasted almost 48 hours....before Smoothy turned me into a hater again. His ability to get people to dislike a horse is really quite amazing.

lol

It's just eating away at you that Goldikova's campaigns/legacy are everything Zenyatta's should've been.

Actually, what she needs to do is ship down to GP and run some INFLATED figures to get you drooling, then REFUSE to get in the gate for the CLASSIC (No MAS). Then she could come back he next year, run some more fast figures against plugs, appearing to be a LOCK for the CLASSIC, and fall on her face yet again, with a lesser NO MAS version.

Or version B:

Get beat by the 2nd string in someone's barn, pull a NO MAS for a scheduled big race, get run down by the great Persistently and have all the NAZI Beyerites argue that she's still the best mare in the country. ha ha ha

I vote for the latter option. :rolleyes:

Even the most obtuse have a 'feeling stupid yet?" point. Have we reached yours yet, Joey?

Speaking of NO MAS...isn't that what you did after your 0 for 66 performance this summer?

ha ha ha


Quoting Eastie is pretty funny. He's the idiot that thought Get Stormy was a single in the mile. Has he finished the race yet?

Or Version C:

Win the Schaefer, Foster and Whitney and run 2nd in the Jockey Club Gold Cup while the supposed best horse in the country is beating pigs in her backyard, then beat that horse on the square in the race they were prepping her for all year and win HOY.

I choose option C.

It's not worth responding to you anymore. You can't stay on topic, you put words in people's mouths and you'll say anything to prove the point you don't have. You're a miserable douche who can never admit he was wrong about anything.

:rolleyes:


Have long felt that classic distance runners are superior to sprinters or milers

Apparently the people in charge of purse money for the BC agree...

lol...this stuff is classic