Shireffs-- Zenyatta is HOY
 

Apparently it is a humanitarian award now. Maybe Bono should get it next year.

"I think she should be Horse of the Year. Obviously she has done so much for the business. You just have to reward it and that would be an appropriate award."

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Runner-up gets some Crest Whitestrips Pro. He should be thankful.

Can't wait to see the Moss' reaction when she doesn't get it again. I'm thinking she'll be back.

Maybe Jess will make up some Zenyatta wine for the Moss's to send out to the turf writers?!~

Zenyatta 6/5-1-0, Blame 5/4-1-0....Zenyatta wins 5 grade 1's, Blame wins 4. Separated by a nose in BCC...could go either way!

That is not his argument. He says that 60 Minutes and fans wearing shirts an holding signs means she should get it.

Disappointing that he can't credit the deserving winner. In a way I can understand the love he has for his horse but it is a slap in the face to the connections of Blame.

No it can't!

Um yes it can, the numbers dont lie. If Blame had won the Woodward, actually even ran in it, and performed better in the JCGC it would be lock city, he did not, so he is not lock city.

Except it couldn't. She's still Queen Z, and she's still going in the Hall of Fame but he beat her fair and square in her only race in open company this year, and no, she didn't fly past him after the wire. He kept digging in. His nose stayed in front. People need to calm down about this award somehow being a lifetime achievement award. It's not. We already have awards for that.

It's a weird deflation to have after a finish like that. I guess it really does feel to a lot of people like when Birdstone beat Smarty Jones. I do wanna congratulate Claiborne Farm for an amazing accomplishment with a homebred in their 100th year. I hope they threw a bit party back at the farm. They seemed to feel a bit guilty over the win, and when something like this happens they deserve an opportunity to break out the champagne. Now I'm sure the party to be at involved Goldikova's connections. Freddie thinks Goldi's better than Miesque and he would know, as he's the one who rode her back in the day. Amazing mare.

Heck, Zenyatta deserves some champagne too. Someone go give Mike Smith a hug and an "it's not your fault" Good Will Hunting-style therapy session.

I'm not having another pointless discussion with you. It's not even debatable. She defeated restricted company and lost her one race against unrestricted. The horse that beat her has had a very good year and beat much better fields than she has.

There is no way someone can make an arguement that she is more deserving of the award over Blame for what they have done on the track THIS YEAR.

There is no need to point out anything about a pointless discussion, you take shots all the time and I dont respond that way. Like in the NBA thread....
I have been keeping anything pointless to a minimum. I would be fine with Z winning HOY, no injustice would be done.

It isn't a lifetime achievement award. This is a non-discussion

Im not really making a case for her, other then Blame would be the worst HOY ever...

Can't you see that being one of the best horses never to have won horse of the year does her more service than being handed an award she doesn't deserve ?

Favorite Trick

Should go to Blame. They should of previously exposed her to a large field putting dirt in her face.

100000% agree with the second sentence. Does anyone beleive she does not win the Personal Ensign in a laugher?

Yeah...you never take shots. You're squeaky clean. Step away from the computer for a few minutes this weekend.

I was away from the computer all day Friday.... Spent noon-7pm at the racino. But thanks for the concern.

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LOL. Yeah Winning the Stephen Foster, Whitney and Classic is the same as winning the Apple Blossom, Clement Hirsh and Lady's Secret. How can anyone possibly make this argument?

I am a huge Zenyatta fan. I think she's an amazing horse and I think she would have won the race yesterday with a better trip. Despite that, I don't think it's a close call for HOY. I think Blame is a "slam-dunk" for HOY.

You can't compare Zenyatta's graded wins this year to Blame's graded wins. His wins were much more impressive. He was running against much better horses.

If Zenyatta would have run in one of the big races against the boys back east in the summer and would have won, then I think you could make a case for her despite the head defeat yesterday. But that didn't happen.

The Mosses took a gamble by staying out west all year and running against the girls every time. By choosing this course, they were going to have to win the BC Classic to win HOY. They put all their eggs in one basket (the BC Classic). They took the gamble and it almost worked but she came up a head short.

You are stupid.

You are stupid

You are stupid

You are stupid. She did not win the Personal Ensign therefore does not credit because she might have.

Chuck, please dont call me stupid.

Cannon, What did you think of Zenyatta's race yesterday? Were you impressed? Did you think she would have won if she didn't have to tap on the brakes turning for home?

Says the poster with 5377 posts in about fifteen months.

I thought she ran great. I didn't see anything wrong with her trip especially after watching the over head view. If I was going to criticize the rider for anything it would be for not warming her up more before the race. After standing around digging holes instead of warming up it isnt really surprising that she was slow into stride.

blame didn't avoid anyone in the woodward. he'd already defeated the horse everyone thought was the top 'capper this year.

as for zenyatta, i can't blame her trainer for his opinion. however, her owners cost her a shot at the award with their cowardly campaign. any other horse running her season this year would get laughed at if they dared suggest it was hoy worthy. but it's zenyatta, so people get all freaking emotional instead of using the logic they'd apply to any other horse.

the award isn't for most photogenic, or best quirky habits. it's for HOY, and blame is the one who took on top horses much of the year, unlike the mare who didn't face a gr 1 winner all year until yesterday.

Stop saying stupid things.

Dig this

She never warms up conventionally before a race.

Whatever your opinion of this is, it is standard procedure for them to not have a gallop to the post like most.

She never has done differently..

She also never runs in 40 degree weather does she?

I'm excited that I was discussing Zenyatta losing the Classic when I made my 1,000th post.

It comes as no great surprise that her connections still think she is HOY. Less defensible are the racing journalists who said she was HOY regardless of what happened on Saturday.

Hey I'm part of this forum. I don't want to be left out. Aren't I stupid too?:confused:

Yes

Who said that? I'll be honest, If she beats Blame by a head, I don't think she would of gotten the vote. I think she needed to dominate Blame. If people think this close defeat cost her the HOY, I think they're mistaken. It would of been close, but I think Blame still would of gotten HOY.