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RockHardTen1985 11-06-2010 05:55 PM

Zenyatta
 
She lost NOTHING IN DEFEAT.

the_fat_man 11-06-2010 05:56 PM

Even the R E T A R D on her back?

RockHardTen1985 11-06-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 718123)
Even the R E T A R D on her back?

Your one of her biggest fans...
She lost nothing, she made up 35 lenghts. I thought she ran HUGE. Proving again if the connections were not cowards she would have been making noise on dirt all along.

Left Bank 11-06-2010 05:57 PM

except 3 million dollars.

Danzig 11-06-2010 05:58 PM

except the race, hoy and having the win streak record. she'll be tied with peppers pride forever now, how ironic.

letswastemoney 11-06-2010 05:59 PM

She lost HOTY (if there is a God)

Coach Pants 11-06-2010 06:02 PM

That was perfect. Now it will haunt them the rest of their lives.

Metal Man 11-06-2010 06:03 PM

Zenyatta doesnt owe racing anything, and she will be remembered as 19 and 1 losing a exciting Classic, few will remember that Blame got there first.

Left Bank 11-06-2010 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Metal Man (Post 718133)
Zenyatta doesnt owe racing anything, and she will be remembered as 19 and 1 losing a exciting Classic, few will remember that Blame got there first.

bullshit! I'll NEVER forget it,and I'll be rubbing it in every Zenyatta fan's face that I can,for as long as I live!

trackrat59 11-06-2010 06:08 PM

She ran a great race. She was so much closer than I thought she would be. I'm now officially impressed. :tro: Having said that, I'm glad this is behind us now.

On another note, Mike Smith is a drama queen. :rolleyes: She ran a hellofa race. Nothing to mope about.

miraja2 11-06-2010 06:08 PM

I've always been a detractor, and yes, I was desperately cheering for Blame to hold her off.

However, she ran very well, and proved to me that she is a better horse than I ever gave her credit for. I'm glad she didn't finish undefeated, but the point many people were trying to make in criticizing the way she was campaigned was that losing a race wasn't the end of the world. And it isn't. She ran a very good race.

For me, this race enhanced her reputation. Sure she was overrated by many and that made me dislike her, but today she travelled away from her home base, beat some very good dirt horses on dirt, and lost by a nose to another very good horse.

RockHardTen1985 11-06-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 718138)
bullshit! I'll NEVER forget it,and I'll be rubbing it in every Zenyatta fan's face that I can,for as long as I live!

This is mature, it also makes me think your clueless about everything she has accomplished.

miraja2 11-06-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 718130)
She lost HOTY (if there is a God)

There isn't a God....but surely Blame just cinched HOY.

Left Bank 11-06-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 718146)
This is mature, it also makes me think your clueless about everything she has accomplished.

Eat a bowl of dicks!

CSC 11-06-2010 06:10 PM

A very exciting race, Blame looked like he walks to victory but Zenyatta makes a race out of it when she looked like she was totally out of it, she will get more respect out of finishing second than winning the race.

RockHardTen1985 11-06-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 718154)
Eat a bowl of dicks!

Ill leave now, if not I would be darted for sure. Your ****ing mature though, get that straight from Ateams mouth? Same dude who told me a month ago no problems, eat a bowl of dicks, real mature. Your ****ing clueless, let me just log off now.
Your literally trolling 3 threads right now about this... Keep it up, I wont stay to be part of it.

dagolfer33 11-06-2010 06:12 PM

I said on this forum a couple of years ago that one day Smith would give her too much to do, and today was the day. She ran her race.

miraja2 11-06-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 718155)
A very exciting race, Blame looked like he walks to victory but Zenyatta makes a race out of it when she looked like she was totally out of it, she will get more respect out of finishing second than winning the race.

Ummm....huh?

shanej974 11-06-2010 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 718138)
bullshit! I'll NEVER forget it,and I'll be rubbing it in every Zenyatta fan's face that I can,for as long as I live!

Wow. What a filthy miserable loser you are. Enjoy your evening.

CSC 11-06-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 718162)
Ummm....huh?

:zz: You don't think she ran a great race? From where she came from and the trip of the winner, I think even the critics can admit she did.

Danzig 11-06-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 718155)
A very exciting race, Blame looked like he walks to victory but Zenyatta makes a race out of it when she looked like she was totally out of it, she will get more respect out of finishing second than winning the race.

the funny thing is, her ardent and airheaded fans who know nothing about racing will be incredibly disappointed, while anyone who knows anything about racing will say that was her best effort ever. yes, she lost. but she showed more today against the best field she's ever faced than against those soon forgotten cupcakes in cali.

it also shows glaringly just how much her chickenhearted connections have cost her. she should have been racing like today all year, instead of racing in paid glorified workouts.

fpsoxfan 11-06-2010 06:14 PM

She ran an impressive race. Nothing to be ashamed of. I'm not a Zentard but there is a lot to love about this horse.

hoovesupsideyourhead 11-06-2010 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 718154)
Eat a bowl of dicks!

nice..thats what happens when you race vs all the horses out there..not just
the slugs in your back yard..

CSC 11-06-2010 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 718169)
the funny thing is, her ardent and airheaded fans who know nothing about racing will be incredibly disappointed, while anyone who knows anything about racing will say that was her best effort ever. yes, she lost. but she showed more today against the best field she's ever faced than against those soon forgotten cupcakes in cali.

it also shows glaringly just how much her chickenhearted connections have cost her. she should have been racing like today all year, instead of racing in paid glorified workouts.

I'm hardly dissapointed, I thought she ran great, answered if she could run well on dirt, with less than an ideal trip. No excuses she lost, but she ran great and hats off to her. Case closed.

Danzig 11-06-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 718174)
I'm hardly dissapointed, I thought she ran great with less than an ideal trip. No excuses she lost, but she ran great and hats off to her. Case closed.

i said airheaded fans who know nothing about racing....are you including yourself in that group, or in the latter group who understands the game and tips their hat to her? thanks for comprehending my post.

miraja2 11-06-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 718168)
:zz: You don't think she ran a great race?

Of course I do, which I already said in this thread.
That still doesn't mean that the portion of your previous post which I highlighted makes any sense whatsoever.

CSC 11-06-2010 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 718178)
Of course I do, which I already said in this thread.
That still doesn't mean that the portion of your previous post which I highlighted makes any sense whatsoever.

Sometimes a loss in defeat when you take into account race dynamics is just as impressive, look at Seattle Slew's loss to Exceller, that race did more for him than any in his career.

trackrat59 11-06-2010 06:20 PM

If we continue on like this the Z threads will never die. :zz:

Let's do this. Let's decide who she should be bred to. First of all, who is tall enough to, you know, mount her? :o

For no other reason than he's my favorite sire, I vote for Tiznow. The horsey in my pic is Tizzy boy.

Ok, someone guess next who Mr. Z will be.

Coach Pants 11-06-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 718179)
Sometimes a loss in defeat when you take into account race dynamics is just as impressive, look at Seattle Slew's loss to Exceller, that race did more for him than any in his career.

Oh my god.

goingtothewhip 11-06-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 718171)
nice..thats what happens when you race vs all the horses out there..not just
the slugs in your back yard..

What happens? You lose by a nose?

She lost and I'm very disappointed, but I thought the sentiment by the "unbiased" was that she would be exposed in this race as a synthetic specialist which couldn't translate her grade I (restricted) form to dirt. Is that what happened?

CSC 11-06-2010 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by goingtothewhip (Post 718188)
What happens? You lose by a nose?

She lost and I'm very disappointed, but I thought the sentiment by the "unbiased" was that she would be exposed in this race as a synthetic specialist which couldn't translate that form to dirt. Is that what happened?

If she ran 4th or last, that would be dissapointing, she ran a terrific race. Why the dissapointment? Courageous in defeat, that's the way champion horses run, she didn't suck it up like Quality Road did, she ran until she ran out of racetrack.

goingtothewhip 11-06-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 718196)
If she ran 4th or last, that would be dissapointing, she ran a terrific race. Why the dissapointment? Courageous in defeat, that's the way champion horses run, she didn't suck it up like Quality Road did, she ran until she ran out of racetrack.

I like to win. A personality defect i guess.

hoovesupsideyourhead 11-06-2010 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goingtothewhip (Post 718188)
What happens? You lose by a nose?

She lost and I'm very disappointed, but I thought the sentiment by the "unbiased" was that she would be exposed in this race as a synthetic specialist which couldn't translate her grade I (restricted) form to dirt. Is that what happened?

yes but my point is more that in alot of those wins she beat noone..she ran well ..but shes not as good as most of the horses that the press machine has said.. better than seattle slew , ect no way..

The Indomitable DrugS 11-06-2010 06:29 PM

I think what might get lost here is how horrid this field was in relation to past editions of this race.

Whoever was riding First Dude caused a huge pace collapse .. it basically was supposed to be a stone cold Blame 1st and Fly Down 2nd type of race at that point. Credit John Shireffs - he has an amazing record when he points for an objective. Zenyatta ran much better than I thought she would.

The final time was a joke. Uncle Mo is going to get a Beyer figure only 3 full points slower than Blame will for winning a wildly sub-par edition of the Classic.

I remember everyone make a huge deal about about how Arazi was the star of the 1991 Breeders Cup ... keep in mind he needed 1:46.40 in his blowout win over Bertrando.. Uncle Mo needed 1:42.60 today ... his final time was 3.80 full seconds (or 22 lengths) faster than Arazi's in his destruction Bertrando.

Blame's final time of 2:02.28 - was just 0.52 seconds faster than Black Tie Affair's 2:02.80 Breeders Cup Classic win at Churchill also in 1991.

It's a pretty sad statement to the older males when you have a horse like Blame - who's run Beyers in the 101-to-103 range in five of his last six career starts .. and even so I thought enough of him to make him my 2nd pick in this race in the paper today.

There was no slouch like Volponi or Mine That Bird out there today to deep six this field and make a mockery of them ... but this group was asking for it. Japan sent over the wrong horse. A speedy miler off of a bad prep .. had they sent over some late running dirt closer in halfway decent form - they probably win this.

DerbyCat 11-06-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trackrat59 (Post 718180)
If we continue on like this the Z threads will never die. :zz:

Let's do this. Let's decide who she should be bred to. First of all, who is tall enough to, you know, mount her? :o

For no other reason than he's my favorite sire, I vote for Tiznow. The horsey in my pic is Tizzy boy.

Ok, someone guess next who Mr. Z will be.


If we wait a year she can be bred to Blame, he should have "done enough" by this time next year, right? ;)


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