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geeker2 10-21-2010 07:54 AM

NPR you suck
 
This is laughable..

It gives me pause too!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...102101474.html

randallscott35 10-21-2010 07:57 AM

Pretty nuts. Tax payer funded and unable to give a point of view that is the least bit politically incorrect. 1984

Antitrust32 10-21-2010 07:59 AM

wow. No way on earth that guys should have been fired.

NPR does suck!

joeydb 10-21-2010 10:40 AM

Is there anything more amusing than liberals devouring their own, using their favorite weapon: political correctness?

Riot 10-21-2010 11:53 AM

Except when one uses the free market to get hired on a contract with an employer, and that contract has certain provisions as to one's behaviour as an employee, that you agree to when you are hired, a good capitalist really shouldn't complain when those provisions are enforced ;)

NPR also publically this week said their news employees will not be attending Jon Stewart's "Rally to Restore Sanity" as attendees. They can go as reporters.

Echo Farm 10-21-2010 12:01 PM

Huckabee calls on Congress to cut NPR funding
 
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...t-npr-funding/

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NPR says federal funding comprises less than 2 percent of its budget, with most of its financial support coming from station fees, sponsorships and grants.
There should be NO federal funding.

Riot 10-21-2010 12:05 PM

Being old enough to have witnessed NPR's birth, I'm glad it's there, it's done exactly what it has supposed to do for the past 40-odd years.

randallscott35 10-21-2010 01:23 PM

http://blogs.forbes.com/jeffbercovic...juan-williams/

Coach Pants 10-21-2010 03:21 PM

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/...s-psychiatrist

Wow.

Riot 10-21-2010 04:09 PM

Today Williams got a 2 million-dollar contract with Fox News. Now he can keep talking about how seeing Muslims on planes scares him, to an audience that wants to hear that type of crap.

Seems Williams has found a more appropriate home.

Cannon Shell 10-21-2010 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709489)
Except when one uses the free market to get hired on a contract with an employer, and that contract has certain provisions as to one's behaviour as an employee, that you agree to when you are hired, a good capitalist really shouldn't complain when those provisions are enforced ;)

NPR also publically this week said their news employees will not be attending Jon Stewart's "Rally to Restore Sanity" as attendees. They can go as reporters.

So speaking the truth is now contractually off limits? I'm interested in knowing how you know what is in Williams contract with NPR. I would also like to know what 'behavior' Williams displayed that was so egregious?

And kudos to NPR for simply covering the "Rally" as liberally biased media members as opposed to liberally biased participants.

Riot 10-21-2010 04:17 PM

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So speaking the truth is now contractually off limits?
It is if you are hired as a news analyst, and you sign a contract that you will not publically engage in opinion.

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I'm interested in knowing how you know what is in Williams contract with NPR.
It's been discussed in various news outlets - in fact one of the links, above has it.

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I would also like to know what 'behavior' Williams displayed that was so egregious?
His bosses have been quoted as calling what he said "bigoted".

Cannon Shell 10-21-2010 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709594)
Today Williams got a 2 million-dollar contract with Fox News. Now he can keep talking about how seeing Muslims on planes scares him, to an audience that wants to hear that type of crap.

Seems Williams has found a more appropriate home.

So when he speaks openly and honestly about his feelings it is "crap"?

That would seem to be a rather narrowminded view. Some of us appreciate his candor.

Cannon Shell 10-21-2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709601)
It is if you are hired as a news analyst, and you sign a contract that you will not publically engage in opinion.



It's been discussed in various news outlets - in fact one of the links, above has it.



His bosses have been quoted as calling what he said "bigoted".

How do you analyze something without giving an opinion?

What has been quoted is a general rule, not specific to Williams contract.

His bosses are idiots who have already retracted that label

slotdirt 10-21-2010 04:31 PM

Whatever, it's NPR's right to fire the guy, but there doesn't seem to be much cause and the psychiatrist comment by the NPR CEO is way beyond the pale, speaking of people who could probably use to get canned.

Antitrust32 10-21-2010 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709594)
Today Williams got a 2 million-dollar contract with Fox News. Now he can keep talking about how seeing Muslims on planes scares him, to an audience that wants to hear that type of crap.

Seems Williams has found a more appropriate home.

Muslims on planes make me nervous also, sometimes.

Not Arabs, but the Muslims dressed full out in Muslim garb and stuff.

it is not a good religion at all

Riot 10-21-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 709604)
So when he speaks openly and honestly about his feelings it is "crap"?

That would seem to be a rather narrowminded view. Some of us appreciate his candor.

Yes, I find the blanket condemnation of every person in a huge group (billions) based upon the actions of a few to be crap. Hardly "candor".

Riot 10-21-2010 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 709605)
How do you analyze something without giving an opinion?

What has been quoted is a general rule, not specific to Williams contract.

His bosses are idiots who have already retracted that label

How do you know Williams didn't want to deliberately violate, and thus terminate, his contract, so he can sign a 2-million dollar deal elsewhere? I'm sure if he feels he was unjustly fired, he'll contest it (after all, there is an employment contract)

And I am quoting the public comments from NPR on Williams contract, not some "general rule".

Riot 10-21-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 709616)
Muslims on planes make me nervous also, sometimes.

Not Arabs, but the Muslims dressed full out in Muslim garb and stuff.

it is not a good religion at all

I'm sure you make them nervous, too.

SOREHOOF 10-21-2010 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709626)
Yes, I find the blanket condemnation of every person in a huge group (billions) based upon the actions of a few to be crap. Hardly "candor".

O.K. How about the Tea Party? Judge any of that by the actions of a few?

Riot 10-21-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF (Post 709635)
O.K. How about the Tea Party? Judge any of that by the actions of a few?

How about the Democrats? Do you judge any of that by the actions of a few? How about blacks? Jews? Gays? Women? Catholics?

SCUDSBROTHER 10-21-2010 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 709605)
How do you analyze something without giving an opinion?

What has been quoted is a general rule, not specific to Williams contract.

His bosses are idiots who have already retracted that label

They follow the teachings of a butcher, and glorify him. That's a fact. Dispute it? You can't. He was a butcher, and they follow his teachings, and glorify him. If it scares Juan, then they get that B word out (like it's their brush, or comb.) One definition of Bigot is: A person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race. That definition fits Liberals a lot better than it fits the relatively moderate Juan Williams.

SOREHOOF 10-21-2010 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 709572)

The Psychiatrist comment was worse than anything he said. She holds the Politically Correct opinion, so poor Juan must be crazy. He's just not quite Liberal enough I guess.

Riot 10-21-2010 05:34 PM

Face it - many in America are sick of prejudice and bigotry, and quite willing to point fingers and call it out for exactly what it is.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-21-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709626)
Yes, I find the blanket condemnation of every person in a huge group (billions) based upon the actions of a few to be crap. Hardly "candor".

They do follow the teachings of a butcher. Do you claim they don't? Just because they all don't kill doesn't mean they're against killing those that try to leave the religion.

Dahoss 10-21-2010 05:36 PM

Reading Riot's gibberish is enough to turn me into a conservative...almost.

Riot 10-21-2010 05:36 PM

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They do follow the teachings of a butcher. Do you claim they don't?
Yes, exactly. I know they don't. I don't call Mohammad a butcher. You feel free to continue.

SOREHOOF 10-21-2010 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709636)
How about the Democrats? Do you judge any of that by the actions of a few? How about blacks? Jews? Gays? Women? Catholics?

Democrats? Actions of the many?
Blacks? I love black people.
Jews? That's borderline hate speech. God Bless Israel.
Gays? It's Two Thousand and frikkin Ten. I have Gay friends. Some are against Gay Marriage.
Women? I love women.
Catholics? I believe every word. What do you have against Catholics?

Riot 10-21-2010 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF (Post 709643)
Democrats? Actions of the many?
Blacks? I love black people.
Jews? That's borderline hate speech. God Bless Israel.
Gays? It's Two Thousand and frikkin Ten. I have Gay friends. Some are against Gay Marriage.
Women? I love women.
Catholics? I believe every word. What do you have against Catholics?

I have nothing against any of the above. Or Muslims. You?

SOREHOOF 10-21-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709645)
I have nothing against any of the above. Or Muslims. You?

Muslims in general? Or Muslims in particular?

SCUDSBROTHER 10-21-2010 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709642)
Yes, exactly. I know they don't. I don't call Mohammad a butcher. You feel free to continue.

He butchered many people, honey. You really gunna dispute that? You're smarter than that.

SOREHOOF 10-21-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF (Post 709649)
Muslims in general? Or Muslims in particular?

This didn't really get any Media play. It was lightly reported on. Its pretty long but you will get the jist after a few pages. Scuds, you must have heard about this report. Why this gets ignored is beyond me.

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.o...2009142010.pdf

SOREHOOF 10-21-2010 06:19 PM

When they asked the so called Times Square "Attempted Bomber" about taking his United States of America Citizen Oath, He said " I didn't mean it". So, Riot, keep believing everything you are told about Islam by the Govt. run politically correct mainstream media.

slotdirt 10-21-2010 06:20 PM

I thought this was rather interesting. I listen to NPR every morning, or at least I have, and have always found her to be bland, uninformative, and factually incorrect. Turns out she's also a giant a-hole.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...html#read-more

SCUDSBROTHER 10-21-2010 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF (Post 709657)
When they asked the so called Times Square "Attempted Bomber" about taking his United States of America Citizen Oath, He said " I didn't mean it". So, Riot, keep believing everything you are told about Islam by the Govt. run politically correct mainstream media.


Their prophet said it's o.k. to lie to non-believers (if it helps Islam.)

SOREHOOF 10-21-2010 06:44 PM

There is a clash of civilizations going on right now. The fact that people are blind to that fact doesn't change the truth of that fact.

Cannon Shell 10-21-2010 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709626)
Yes, I find the blanket condemnation of every person in a huge group (billions) based upon the actions of a few to be crap. Hardly "candor".

If you listen to the comments in the context of the conversation its painfully obvious that he isnt condemning anyone. He was simply expressing the fear he personally felt. You are projecting on his words. Expressing his own honestly felt feelings is candor.

You want the world to be so black and white, politically correct that you can't see the difference between a guy expressing his own personal fears and a blanket condemnation. The fact is that everyone of us knows that if a suspect looking person wearing muslim clothing gets on a plane with us, the thought crosses our minds. You may not admit it but you know it is true. Doesn't make you a bigot or racist or anything of the sort. It simply makes you human.

Cannon Shell 10-21-2010 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709627)
How do you know Williams didn't want to deliberately violate, and thus terminate, his contract, so he can sign a 2-million dollar deal elsewhere? I'm sure if he feels he was unjustly fired, he'll contest it (after all, there is an employment contract)

And I am quoting the public comments from NPR on Williams contract, not some "general rule".

I don't know what Williams motives were but I have a hard time believing after reading the background that NPR wouldn't have released him from his contract had he asked to leave.

The public comments are referring to a general rule.

Cannon Shell 10-21-2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 709637)
One definition of Bigot is: A person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race. That definition fits Liberals a lot better than it fits the relatively moderate Juan Williams.

That definition fits Riot like a glove

herkhorse 10-21-2010 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 709670)
If you listen to the comments in the context of the conversation its painfully obvious that he isnt condemning anyone. He was simply expressing the fear he personally felt. You are projecting on his words. Expressing his own honestly felt feelings is candor.

You want the world to be so black and white, politically correct that you can't see the difference between a guy expressing his own personal fears and a blanket condemnation. The fact is that everyone of us knows that if a suspect looking person wearing muslim clothing gets on a plane with us, the thought crosses our minds. You may not admit it but you know it is true. Doesn't make you a bigot or racist or anything of the sort. It simply makes you human.

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