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joeydb 10-20-2010 07:28 AM

Nancy Pelosi, Communist?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUkqUasH8b8

If the Democrats really believe this, they are done.

dellinger63 10-20-2010 08:13 AM

What is sad is this is nothing new. Obama's hope and change was all about this. Right now he is faulting banks on foreclosed properties when the mopes living there haven't made a payment in years. The mope lives free and the bank gets screwed. Then in one big love fest the bank raises service prices etc. to all of us so we can all feel the screw. I never thought one mope could effect so many.

The mope family likely missed their property tax bills as well. The Gov. could care less as they know they will get their $$$ plus interest from the new owner. In the meantime the taxpayers can make up the difference.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-20-2010 01:44 PM

With few exceptions (some Sports, and the Arts) there is nothing that someone with 2 hands n' 2 feet can do (so well) that should result in them getting more than a few million bucks a year. Actually, horseracing is one of the few areas of the economy that is done right (in this regards.) The best jock, and the best trainers make about what? Don't they top out at about 2 mil? There are plenty of good jocks, n' good trainers that can do about the same job. Unfortunately, rich owners probably do pay them much more than this. Thankfully, the industry (on it's own) isn't doing well enough to spoil the "top" ones like these pig executives that cheat, and don't get properly punished at all. A couple of those AIG people shouldn't see the light of day ever again. I never once heard this lady say that we shouldn't have people making millions of dollars a year. She's talking about people making 50-100 million dollars a year while their companies pay no income tax (oil industry etc.) Companies getting thirty -fifty cents/ a gallon profit each time a poor person has to buy gas. That's the type of perversion that happens when the needle goes too far towards pure Capitalism (that sees nothing wrong with monopolies.) The Obama Presidency is about pulling that needle back away from going too far towards pure Capitalism. Last I saw, poor people are still paying 30-50 cents a gallon to oil companies that don't have to pay any income tax. So, he n' Pelosi have been horribly unsuccessful at doing what you're accusing them of wanting to do. If they lose their power, it's because they didn't do enough. Not because they did too much. The National Medical stuff should be in place in any country that has the possibility of drafting it's people to fight. Most civilized countries have this. That's not radical. It's only radical because we are in such an overly Capitalistic Country.

gales0678 10-20-2010 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 709089)
With few exceptions (some Sports, and the Arts) there is nothing that someone with 2 hands n' 2 feet can do (so well) that should result in them getting more than a few million bucks a year. Actually, horseracing is one of the few areas of the economy that is done right (in this regards.) The best jock, and the best trainers make about what? Don't they top out at about 2 mil? There are plenty of good jocks, n' good trainers that can do about the same job. Unfortunately, rich owners probably do pay them much more than this. Thankfully, the industry (on it's own) isn't doing well enough to spoil the "top" ones like these pig executives that cheat, and don't get properly punished at all. A couple of those AIG people shouldn't see the light of day ever again. I never once heard this lady say that we shouldn't have people making millions of dollars a year. She's talking about people making 50-100 million dollars a year while their companies pay no income tax (oil industry etc.) Companies getting thirty -fifty cents/ a gallon profit each time a poor person has to buy gas. That's the type of perversion that happens when the needle goes too far towards pure Capitalism (that sees nothing wrong with monopolies.) The Obama Presidency is about pulling that needle back away from going too far towards pure Capitalism. Last I saw, poor people are still paying 30-50 cents a gallon to oil companies that don't have to pay any income tax. So, he n' Pelosi have been horribly unsuccessful at doing what you're accusing them of wanting to do.

scuds explain to me how she is anywhere in touch with what the avg person is going through in this country today:

Like most members of Congress, Pelosi is a multi-millionaire. Mostly on the strength of her husband's portfolio of commercial real estate, the Pelosis' net worth is at least $25M and may be as high at $92M -- financial disclosure forms for federal officials report assets and liabilities in broad ranges, so the figure is difficult to pinpoint. The Pelosis own a small office building in San Francisco and another in the suburbs of Marin County, as well as millions of dollars in stock in Microsoft and AT&T, and a minority interest in Piatti Locali, a small chain of Italian restaurants in California.

Riot 10-20-2010 01:55 PM

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Nancy Pelosi, Communist?
Oh for cripes sakes, Bill-O needs to read the definition of "communism" (actually "socialism")

How beyond absurd.

DOG WHISTLE!

SCUDSBROTHER 10-20-2010 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 709093)
scuds explain to me how she is anywhere in touch with what the avg person is going through in this country today:

Like most members of Congress, Pelosi is a multi-millionaire. Mostly on the strength of her husband's portfolio of commercial real estate, the Pelosis' net worth is at least $25M and may be as high at $92M -- financial disclosure forms for federal officials report assets and liabilities in broad ranges, so the figure is difficult to pinpoint. The Pelosis own a small office building in San Francisco and another in the suburbs of Marin County, as well as millions of dollars in stock in Microsoft and AT&T, and a minority interest in Piatti Locali, a small chain of Italian restaurants in California.

Make up your mind. 1st she's a Communist, and then you switch to her being a Capitalist. Fact is she's for well-regulated Capitalism, and her detractors want unregulated Capitalism.

chucklestheclown 10-20-2010 03:06 PM

I read the other day her mother told her she could not be a priest according to church law so she decided to be a politician instead. So you can blame everything she does or does not do on Catholicism.

Cannon Shell 10-20-2010 04:29 PM

Nancy Pelosi is an embarrassment. Thankfully her bully pulpit is about to be pulled out from under her.

dellinger63 10-20-2010 04:53 PM

She is charitable though her and her husband thru their foundation saw fit to donate over 95% of it to just two charities, the San Francisco Symphony and Georgetown U, Mr. Pelosi's alma mater. Guess people who are hungry and or homeless can sit outside and kinda hear the concerts.

Riot 10-20-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 709214)
She's is charitable though her and her husband thru their foundation saw fit to donate over 95% of it to just two charities, the San Francisco Symphony and Georgetown U, Mr. Pelosi's alma mater. Guess people who are hungry and or homeless can sit outside and kinda hear the concerts.

Wow. So how do you reconcile your comments and cares about what others do with their money, with your political position?

dellinger63 10-20-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709220)
Wow. So how do you reconcile your comments and cares about what others do with their money, with your political position?



when one preaches, cries, demands etc. etc. etc. that the taxpayer needs to extend unemployment beni's infinitum, provide healthcare to all and pass stimulus after stimulus all on the taxpayer dime yet when it comes to spending her own money chooses a symphony and a respected college over say the poor, it has nothing to do with their money and everything to do with their character and the ole democratic spiritual hymn 'Do What We Say and Not What We Do'

gales0678 10-20-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 709132)
Make up your mind. 1st she's a Communist, and then you switch to her being a Capitalist. Fact is she's for well-regulated Capitalism, and her detractors want unregulated Capitalism.

she's a hoax , she's wants the gov't to run people's lives so that she and her cronies stay in power

you and i are not capable of taking car of ourselves , we have to become wards of the state

she has hers , but , she does not use her politcal power to free you up to get yours , but to become dependent on what she gives you , bits and pieces to keep you going so that you can vote every 2 years for this chirade

you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time , and her time is up scuds you know it and i do to

Riot 10-20-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 709226)
when one preaches, cries, demands etc. etc. etc. that the taxpayer needs to extend unemployment beni's infinitum, provide healthcare to all and pass stimulus after stimulus all on the taxpayer dime yet when it comes to spending her own money chooses a symphony and a respected college over say the poor, it has nothing to do with their money and everything to do with their character and the ole democratic spiritual hymn 'Do What We Say and Not What We Do'

:zz: I'm not talking about Pelosi. What political system is it, where one person tells others what to do with their money?

Riot 10-20-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 709199)
Nancy Pelosi is an embarrassment. Thankfully her bully pulpit is about to be pulled out from under her.

John Boehner isn't an embarrassment at all - we need more chain-smoking, too-much-time-off for golfing, malignant melanoma candidates running our world :D

dellinger63 10-20-2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709242)
:zz: I'm not talking about Pelosi. What political system is it, where one person tells others what to do with their money?

sorry I thought this thread was about Pelosi and that's who I was talking about.

otisotisotis 10-20-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 709227)
they're a hoax , repubs want the companies to run people's lives so that they and them stay in power

you and i are not capable of taking car of ourselves , we have to become wards of the banks

they have theirs , but , they do not use their politcal power to free you up to get yours , but to become dependent on what big business gives you , bits and pieces to keep you going so that you can vote every 2 years for this chirade

you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time , and their time is up scuds you know it and i do to

propoganda works both ways....

otisotisotis 10-20-2010 08:42 PM

And about the foreclosure situation in this country.....you do realize that when the banks were given free reign to securitize and bundle mortgages that it became an absolute, unregulated money grab.
And in the rush to seize as mucho dinero as possible, they simple said 'ooops' about doing the proper paperwork. The chain of assignment has been broken on 10s of 1000s of properties. Yours may be one of them.....
This only comes to light because of people being run throught the foreclosure mill hastily, and when they ask the attorneys for the foreclosing bank to produce the promissory note in order to show proof of ownership, they can't in some cases.
What does that mean?
Well, if you bought a foreclosed propery in the last couple of years, it might actually not be yours, beacuase the bank that sold it to you may not have really owned it.........
and with each assignment of the mortgage, fees are due to your county of residence. So if the assignments are not recorded propery, your county is getting screwed out of 1000s of dollars in fees.
And furthermore, maybe your home is in one of the securities and you pay out your mortgage and/or decide to sell? Well, if the bank can't provide you with the note, then what do you have?

Cannon Shell 10-20-2010 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709243)
John Boehner isn't an embarrassment at all - we need more chain-smoking, too-much-time-off for golfing, malignant melanoma candidates running our world :D

Better get used to him...

dalakhani 10-20-2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by otisotisotis (Post 709260)
And about the foreclosure situation in this country.....you do realize that when the banks were given free reign to securitize and bundle mortgages that it became an absolute, unregulated money grab.
And in the rush to seize as mucho dinero as possible, they simple said 'ooops' about doing the proper paperwork. The chain of assignment has been broken on 10s of 1000s of properties. Yours may be one of them.....
This only comes to light because of people being run throught the foreclosure mill hastily, and when they ask the attorneys for the foreclosing bank to produce the promissory note in order to show proof of ownership, they can't in some cases.
What does that mean?
Well, if you bought a foreclosed propery in the last couple of years, it might actually not be yours, beacuase the bank that sold it to you may not have really owned it.........
and with each assignment of the mortgage, fees are due to your county of residence. So if the assignments are not recorded propery, your county is getting screwed out of 1000s of dollars in fees.
And furthermore, maybe your home is in one of the securities and you pay out your mortgage and/or decide to sell? Well, if the bank can't provide you with the note, then what do you have?

And is this supreme court going to be the one that puts the coup de grace to the financial system?

The banks will be protected. If not, we are in a bigger mess than even Nascar and TimmiG's love child could fathom.

Riot 10-20-2010 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 709272)
Better get used to him...

Get used to him? He's been around forever. It's pretty clear what we're getting.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-20-2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 709272)
Better get used to him...

Can one get used to Cancer n' Nausea? I don't think so.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-20-2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 709227)
she's a hoax , she's wants the gov't to run people's lives so that she and her cronies stay in power

you and i are not capable of taking car of ourselves , we have to become wards of the state

she has hers , but , she does not use her politcal power to free you up to get yours , but to become dependent on what she gives you , bits and pieces to keep you going so that you can vote every 2 years for this chirade

you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time , and her time is up scuds you know it and i do to

I know Republicans want 2 classes of people, and everything they do is to get that goal done. I actually think this lady is a lot better at her job than Obama is at his.

chucklestheclown 10-21-2010 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 709227)
she's a hoax , she's wants the gov't to run people's lives so that she and her cronies stay in power

you and i are not capable of taking car of ourselves , we have to become wards of the state

she has hers , but , she does not use her politcal power to free you up to get yours , but to become dependent on what she gives you , bits and pieces to keep you going so that you can vote every 2 years for this chirade

you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time , and her time is up scuds you know it and i do to

Spoken like a true tea-party-goer.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-21-2010 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 709227)
you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time , and her time is up scuds you know it and i do to

Her time is up when she retires, or loses.

Cannon Shell 10-21-2010 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 709300)
I know Republicans want 2 classes of people, and everything they do is to get that goal done. I actually think this lady is a lot better at her job than Obama is at his.

She is a tragedy. Obama is simply an overmatched twit.

Cannon Shell 10-21-2010 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 709323)
Her time is up when she retires, or loses.

Or when her contract with her cousin Satan comes due

joeydb 10-21-2010 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 709300)
I know Republicans want 2 classes of people, and everything they do is to get that goal done. I actually think this lady is a lot better at her job than Obama is at his.

It's the Democrats that want two classes: Providers and Recipients. Which group are you in?

otisotisotis 10-21-2010 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 709339)
It's the Democrats that want two classes: Providers and Recipients. Which group are you in?

lol........i guess the Republicans are structuring a plan for a one world utopia...

otisotisotis 10-21-2010 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 709276)
And is this supreme court going to be the one that puts the coup de grace to the financial system?

The banks will be protected. If not, we are in a bigger mess than even Nascar and TimmiG's love child could fathom.

how this plays out will be anybody's guess. but I do agree that the banks will suffer minimal damage.

gales0678 10-21-2010 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 709300)
I know Republicans want 2 classes of people, and everything they do is to get that goal done. I actually think this lady is a lot better at her job than Obama is at his.

let me guess , you own the gas pump she uses to fill up that air force 3 plane every time she flies into the west coast and you are p/o that she is going to lose that plane in 3 months

again , she has hers , her liberal mindset wants people dependent on her , it's very simple , she doesn't want people to get their shot

Antitrust32 10-21-2010 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709242)
:zz: I'm not talking about Pelosi. What political system is it, where one person tells others what to do with their money?

your posting tactics are are really bad

Antitrust32 10-21-2010 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709243)
John Boehner isn't an embarrassment at all - we need more chain-smoking, too-much-time-off for golfing, malignant melanoma candidates running our world :D

more terrible posting

Antitrust32 10-21-2010 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 709300)
I know Republicans want 2 classes of people, and everything they do is to get that goal done. I actually think this lady is a lot better at her job than Obama is at his.

everything about this post is ridiculous.

joeydb 10-21-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 709242)
:zz: I'm not talking about Pelosi. What political system is it, where one person tells others what to do with their money?

Socialism. The Recipient gets to tell the Provider his new tax rate. The Provider is a slave to the supreme Recipient. The Recipient on the other hand owes nothing to the Provider.

When the Recipients think the Provider is not paying enough, or is faced with necessary adjustments to the social programs they enjoy, they riot, like in the UK and France right now.

joeydb 10-21-2010 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by otisotisotis (Post 709341)
lol........i guess the Republicans are structuring a plan for a one world utopia...

Utopia, as written by Sir Thomas More, is a work of fiction, and was meant as a parody when it was written.

I get your point -- but I do think that the Republican point of view is more universally applicable. I would paraphrase it as "those who work for the money should get to keep as much of it as possible. As a result, government is obligated to spend as little as possible. In this way freedom is maximized and the burdens of taxation would be minimized."

There is nothing in that kind of sentiment that screams "for the rich only", despite all the extreme comments from the left.

Princess Doreen 10-21-2010 07:54 AM

Nancy Pelosi a communist? Hmmmm! One does not necessarily have to be an idiot to be a communist.

otisotisotis 10-21-2010 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 709367)
Utopia, as written by Sir Thomas More, is a work of fiction, and was meant as a parody when it was written.

I get your point -- but I do think that the Republican point of view is more universally applicable. I would paraphrase it as "those who work for the money should get to keep as much of it as possible. As a result, government is obligated to spend as little as possible. In this way freedom is maximized and the burdens of taxation would be minimized."

There is nothing in that kind of sentiment that screams "for the rich only", despite all the extreme comments from the left.

i read that and think 'Let them eat cake!".

gales0678 10-21-2010 09:05 AM

it's not been working washington for many years

harry reid and pelosi are part of the swamp

it's time for it to be drained

joeydb 10-21-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by otisotisotis (Post 709376)
i read that and think 'Let them eat cake!".

I don't see how you draw that from my comments. We would want the little guy to be able to keep as much of his as possible too.

Even with a flat tax rate, which we'd never see, the amounts would be fair. 10% tax is 10% tax, whether on $100,000 , a million, or 100 million.

Riot 10-21-2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 709360)
your posting tactics are are really bad

Or, your ability to understand multiple levels of meaning is limited.


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