Baseball Playoffs
 

Surprised to see the limping Yanks -180 against the Twins. Yes they have owned them in the playoffs, but Twins are due against them, and an open air stadium in MN could be the difference.

Don't agree with San Fran being favored against the Braves either. Those are the value I see in this early round.

And I am a Yankees fan but I see it like this

Yanks
Rays

Phils
Giants

Rays
Phils

Phils

Awfully chalky

Like I stated in the baseball playoffs thread a week ago...
Yanks-Giants WS.

Yanks are showing their age.

Shut up will ya...the Giants give me enough torture...I don't need more torture knowing that the Giants actually didn't end their season, knowing that a certain DT poster's mouth/keyboard was the reason we lost in the first round.

I have not bet a baseball game in like 10 years....200 on Phils to win it all.

Giants pitching is pretty damn good.

Yeah but -150....I don't know, to me if you bet those two dogs, one is going to win the series and put you in the plus column. But I hear you.

Even though I'm a Yankee fan........would love to see the Rangers get to the series.

Yanks / Rangers - Phillies / Giants

Yanks / Phillies

Phillies :mad:

my predictions-

May the best team win!


Good luck Phillies!!!!


(I refuse to pick / mush my team)

CL throwing another gem in a playoff game … shocking…


TX has a shot if they get this one

Great color commentary on TBS. During the Phillies/Reds game we got the gem of the guy stating the series could be either a high scoring series or a low scoring series. Maybe next inning he can offer that one team will win the series and one team will lose the series, and at this point it can be either team.

Wow. That was a beastly performance.

No hitter..wow

Halladay is the best pitcher of my lifetime. It's a shame he hasn't been on a contender until this season. He might as well have been pitching on Mars all these years. What a monster.

Pedro prime was better.

Probably, but I prefer Halladay's body of work. Pedro's year in 2000 was the best single pitching year of the past 20 years though.

Maddux in the mid 90s was pretty tough as well but I agree with you. I enjoy watching Halladay as much as any pitcher I've ever seen.

There's seriously not even a question about who has the best rotation in the playoffs right now. Oswalt is playoff-seasoned and Hamels looks like the 08 version instead of the 09 sissy that got banged around.

Is he even better then Lee?

It's not even close. Lee's had 3 pretty good years. His career ERA is just under 4. Halladay's resume blows his out of the water and he's finally getting to show what he can do on a contender. Meanwhile, Lee is 5-6 since being traded to Texas.

Im talking right now... Halladays resume is much better, no doubt.

He's better right now too.

CL's performance in the playoffs last year was nothing short of spectacular.

That what RH will be measured against.

Needless to say, he's off to a hell of a start.

Just the second no-hitter in playoff history … WOW

I think CL performance today was HUGE. Against a much better offense then Cinci as well.

He is a great pitcher. But he isnt the best pitcher of your lifetime yet.

Clemens and Maddux had far better careers and higher peaks. Pedro had a 7 year run better than anyone in baseball history has ever had. Randy Johnson won 5 Cy Young awards and finished 2nd 3 times. Tom Glavine won 2 Cy Youngs and finished in the top 3 6 times.

Halladay's last few seasons have been very good. If he pitches as well over the next 3 or 4 years he will join the above group. Being that he is going to get a steady dose of the Nationals, Marlins and Mets in the NL East it looks good for him.

Best pitching performance Ive ever seen is when pedro went into yankee stadium in september of 99 and pitched a one hitter and the only hit was a home run. No walks, 17k's and faced one over the minimum.

You could take all the perfect games and no hitters and nothing was like that night.

Did anyone else see that game?

I do remember that game. Incredible performance.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...99909100.shtml
The Jack Morris game in the WS is one I will never forget.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...99110270.shtml

Okay, baseball calls:

NY over Minnesota
TB over Texas

Atl over Sf
Cin over Philly

Cin over Atl

TB over NY

TB over Cin

I bet Fox is drooling over the prospect of those ratings.:D

At risk of being accused of stalking you, the Rays offense doesn't hold a candle to the Reds offense. The Rays have a team batting average of .247 for the season (only Seattle saved them from being last in the AL). The only way they were able to generate the runs they did this year, is by walking and once they were on base, running at every chance. Beating the Rays is a simple formula, throw strikes and make them hit their way on. Cliff Lee threw strikes and the Rays were helpless.

Last 3 years since Lee has become a top flight starter...

Lee 48-24 2.98
Halladay 58-31 2.67

No comparison, although Lee's postseason record speaks for itself. (granted, Lee playing half of 2009 with Cleveland and half of 2010 with Seattle likely affected his win total but Toronto in 2008 and 2009 wasn't the greatest team on the planet either.)

The rest of the league should be thanking God, that they both still aren't on the Phillies.

My favorite Pedro pitching performance was on April 13, 1994 against Cincinnati. He was pitching a perfect game before he hit Reggie Sanders in the 8th inning. Then Reggie charged the mound, and had the balls to appeal his suspension since Pedro was pitching tight to him the entire game.

Lincecum was arguably better than Halladay yesterday. Giant leap of logic, but 31 swings and misses. The most in the regular season in any game by a pitcher was 26. The postseason pitching has been ridiculous.

My 2 first round picks not looking so good at this point. We'll see. Some major pitching performances this post season. As we get years away from the steroid era it is amazing how much pitching has improved.

I love it. I would much rather watch a well pitched, fast paced, 1-0 game than a 9-8 slugfest with 6 pitching changes dragging it out to nearly 4 hours.

Even with the lengthened commercial time between innings, the Halladay game took 2:34 and the Lincecum game took 2:26.

Im not sure its def the era. These 5-7 really good pitchers, have been really good the past 3-4 years. They just all came together this post seasson.

I prefer it as well.

The steroid era was generally mid 90's into mid 2000's based on the available runs, home runs, pitching stats. Thus in the further we get out of it, the better the pitching should come back. (not to mention humidors for CO as well)

Lee vs. Price part deux, coming up Tuesday night.