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Kasept 10-01-2010 07:06 PM

World's Greatest Thoroughbred Race?
 
Reading a British book which terms the Epsom Derby as the 'World's Greatest Flat Race'. With the Arc Sunday, it made me curious what people consider the greatest of the great flat races internationally? You can vote multiple times, so maybe tab your top 3.

Arletta 10-01-2010 07:57 PM

I just finished "Not by a Long shot" and am looking for a new read... What are you reading?

robfla 10-01-2010 08:02 PM

It's kind of difficult for an average race fan living in the US to realize the history and magnitude of the races in another country. I voted Ky Derby sinply on tradition and the fact that every American trainer's / owner's / jockey's dream is to win it

Sightseek 10-01-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla (Post 701998)
It's kind of difficult for an average race fan living in the US to realize the history and magnitude of the races in another country. I voted Ky Derby sinply on tradition and the fact that every American trainer's / owner's / jockey's dream is to win it

Same reason I would vote for it.

Sightseek 10-01-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 701995)
I just finished "Not by a Long shot" and am looking for a new read... What are you reading?

I just bought a few books on clearance on Exclusively Equine, you get an extra 20% off if you use the code: EXTRA20

http://www.exclusivelyequine.com/Bro...&currentPage=1

I buy a lot on half.com too:

http://search.half.ebay.com/horse-racing_W0QQmZbooks

Arletta 10-01-2010 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 702005)
I just bought a few books on clearance on Exclusively Equine, you get an extra 20% off if you use the code: EXTRA20

http://www.exclusivelyequine.com/Bro...&currentPage=1

I buy a lot on half.com too:

http://search.half.ebay.com/horse-racing_W0QQmZbooks

Thank you

Danzig 10-01-2010 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 702005)
I just bought a few books on clearance on Exclusively Equine, you get an extra 20% off if you use the code: EXTRA20

http://www.exclusivelyequine.com/Bro...&currentPage=1

I buy a lot on half.com too:

http://search.half.ebay.com/horse-racing_W0QQmZbooks

i love half dot com.

am currently reading 'the glorious cause'...oxford history of the united states, volume one. it's pretty good.

10 pnt move up 10-01-2010 08:53 PM

I dont see anyone in the US ship over there for any of their races....but I see plenty ship over here.

Coach Pants 10-01-2010 08:59 PM

I love the Melbourne Cup and hopefully I'll go before my time on this ball of dirt is up.

philcski 10-01-2010 09:11 PM

Kentucky Derby.............






and a long way back in 2nd, the Arc.

I've thought that long before I went to my first Derby, or moved here.

RolloTomasi 10-01-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 702023)
Kentucky Derby.............






and a long way back in 2nd, the Arc.

I've thought that long before I went to my first Derby, or moved here.

Don't they run the Kentucky Derby in Louisville?

philcski 10-01-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 702026)
Don't they run the Kentucky Derby in Louisville?

Is it the Louisville Derby?

Scav 10-01-2010 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 702019)
I love the Melbourne Cup and hopefully I'll go before my time on this ball of dirt is up.

DT Trip, Irish and I are in......I actually have a passport now so I can plan these fun shindigs

RolloTomasi 10-01-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 702031)
Is it the Louisville Derby?

Are you employed by Yum! Brands?

cmorioles 10-01-2010 10:14 PM

Those that selected the Arlington Million should be banned immediately...maybe even the guy that put it on the list!

blackthroatedwind 10-01-2010 10:16 PM

I wanted to write in the obvious choice......the last leg of any Pick-6 you hit.

GPK 10-01-2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 702048)
Those that selected the Arlington Million should be banned immediately...maybe even the guy that put it on the list!


I'm kinda pissed Byk didn't list the Tampa Bay Derby as an option:mad:

Coach Pants 10-01-2010 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav (Post 702033)
DT Trip, Irish and I are in......I actually have a passport now so I can plan these fun shindigs

The ultimate would be to stay there and travel the country and finish the trip by attending both finals of the Australian Open.

philcski 10-01-2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 702034)
Are you employed by Yum! Brands?

Yes. I work the drive through at KFC. :zz:

What is your point?

RolloTomasi 10-01-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 702052)
The ultimate would be to stay there and travel the country and finish the trip by attending both finals of the Australian Open.

Tennis...it's Australian for "gay", mate.

RolloTomasi 10-01-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 702064)
Yes. I work the drive through at KFC. :zz:

What is your point?

Why is the Arc a distant second?

Cuz France is really far away?

Honu 10-01-2010 10:47 PM

I voted for the Arc, uneven ground soft or hard going a mile and a half has to be the toughest race in the world.

Travis Stone 10-01-2010 10:50 PM

Interesting question...

Do people breed, train, race and schedule their entire campaigns around getting to one race? The Kentucky Derby is such a unique creature. Six or so months of horse racing is completely geared towards that race alone. I don't feel as though the others carry that same punch, although each is big by itself, they're not quite as big as the Ky. Derby.

RolloTomasi 10-01-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 702075)
Interesting question...

Do people breed, train, race and schedule their entire campaigns around getting to one race? The Kentucky Derby is such a unique creature. Six or so months of horse racing is completely geared towards that race alone. I don't feel as though the others carry that same punch, although each is big by itself, they're not quite as big as the Ky. Derby.

Isn't the Epsom Derby regarded in similar fashion in the UK?

philcski 10-01-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 702069)
Why is the Arc a distant second?

Cuz France is really far away?

Because that's my opinion? I prefer dirt racing at a mile and a quarter, for horses that have been pointed towards this specific race since the day they were foaled, over turf racing at a mile and a half. Just because I rank it 2nd doesn't imply I consider it unimportant.

Let's rephrase the question... which one would you rather win?

Indian Charlie 10-01-2010 10:54 PM

id vote for the breeders cup juvenille turf sprint brought to you by toro snowblowers and lawnmowers.

RolloTomasi 10-01-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 702077)
Because that's my opinion? I prefer dirt racing at a mile and a quarter, for horses that have been pointed towards this specific race since the day they were foaled, over turf racing at a mile and a half. Just because I rank it 2nd doesn't imply I consider it unimportant.

Let's rephrase the question... which one would you rather win?

Oh, OK. I thought you were basing your opinion on proximity to your current geographical location.

I guess I should have known better since you didn't say the Melbourne Cup was way down at the bottom of your list.

Smooth Operator 10-01-2010 11:58 PM

Arc


KY Derby ... 4th...

magic_idol 10-02-2010 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 702019)
I love the Melbourne Cup and hopefully I'll go before my time on this ball of dirt is up.

Coach you Gotta do the 3 Caulfield Cup.Cox plate ,Melbourne Cup 3 great Races..Plus Ladies Day before the Cup:rolleyes:

gamblin4ever 10-02-2010 11:05 AM

The Arc has my vote.

Top pick - Arc = top race across the waters. You point to it if your horse is good enough.

2nd place - KY Derby = restricted to 3yr olds only and more luck than being the best needed to win. If they changed the rules and shorten the field down to 1 starting gate instead of the added gate, then you wouldn't have horses that don't belong. Still would have 14 horses I believe racing.

My opinion only..

paisjpq 10-02-2010 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 701995)
I just finished "Not by a Long shot" and am looking for a new read... What are you reading?

Horsetrader is really good. I think its out of print but you can still find it used.

brockguy 10-02-2010 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 702017)
I dont see anyone in the US ship over there for any of their races....but I see plenty ship over here.

There is a very very simple reason why this is the case :)

my miss storm cat 10-02-2010 01:58 PM

The Arc.

As far as great racing days go?

Dubai World Cup and BC Day(s) AND Cathay Pacific Hong Kong International Race day. :cool:

brockguy 10-02-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 702235)
The Arc.

As far as great racing days go?

Dubai World Cup and BC Day(s) AND Cathay Pacific Hong Kong International Race day. :cool:

Totally agree -

Id vote Arc 1, Kentucky Derby 2 and Melbourne Cup (which is topping my list of races to go now!) 3

Now if you were to throw the Cheltenham Gold Cup in there :)

my miss storm cat 10-02-2010 02:17 PM

I was wondering about that... if the jumps were included where they'd rate...

You need to get yourself to Melbourne, young man. :)

Patrick333 10-04-2010 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by brockguy (Post 702225)
There is a very very simple reason why this is the case :)

More money....

johnny pinwheel 10-04-2010 06:53 AM

i think it used to be the jockey gold cup... but i voted for the BC classic. Dubai is the biggest truly international race. i don't know, its a biased question for dirt fans because we are the only ones that have those races.

alysheba4 10-04-2010 01:06 PM

:D
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 702050)
I wanted to write in the obvious choice......the last leg of any Pick-6 you hit.

:D

v j stauffer 10-04-2010 01:26 PM

Probably wouldn't be fair to vote three times cuz I'd take the Kentucky Derby every time. IMO a whole lot more racing fans in Europe and Asia know and follow our Derby than the other way around.

RolloTomasi 10-04-2010 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 703177)
Probably wouldn't be fair to vote three times cuz I'd take the Kentucky Derby every time. IMO a whole lot more racing fans in Europe and Asia know and follow our Derby than the other way around.

That's because there are more horse racing fans period in those continents.


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