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brockguy 09-10-2010 02:36 PM

Frankel
 
You can be pretty sure when Prince Abdullah named a horse after the late great trainer, it would be a good one.

He won his debut at Newmarket and won impressively in a conditions race at Doncaster today. He is just 8-1 to win the Derby next year after today. Definitely one to keep an eye on.

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/n...al_170439.html

Coach Pants 09-10-2010 02:40 PM

This horse better be scratched at least 5 times in his career.

reese 09-10-2010 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy (Post 694379)
You can be pretty sure when Prince Abdullah named a horse after the late great trainer, it would be a good one.

He won his debut at Newmarket and won impressively in a conditions race at Doncaster today. He is just 8-1 to win the Derby next year after today. Definitely one to keep an eye on.

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/n...al_170439.html

Thanks for the info.

I was a HUGE B. Frankel fan.
Gone too soon.

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-10-2010 05:17 PM

if he likes smoked meat sandwitches im sending it in...

HaloWishingwell 09-10-2010 07:07 PM

If the horse starts to run away at the sight of extra weight then you know it must be Bobby.

my miss storm cat 09-20-2010 03:30 PM

Saturday September 25 2010
Ascot 14:30

Juddmonte Royal Lodge Stakes
£125000.00 added, 2yo only, 1m, Class 1
10 runners
Going: Good, Good to Firm in places

Form
Horse Age Wt Trainer Jockey OR NagMe Bet
210
Eskimo (IRE) 98 2 8-12 A P O'Brien - SP SP SP
421
Factum (USA) 20 2 8-12 A P O'Brien - SP SP SP
11
Frankel 15 2 8-12 H R A Cecil - SP SP SP
41
Happy Today (USA) 26 2 8-12 B J Meehan - SP SP SP
11531
Klammer 35 2 8-12 Jane Chapple-Hyam 99 SP SP SP
422534
Samuel Morse (IRE) 14 2 8-12 A P O'Brien 108 SP SP SP
56124
Slim Shadey 16 2 8-12 J S Moore 97 SP SP SP
11
Titus Mills (IRE) 18 2 8-12 B J Meehan - SP SP SP
2112
Treasure Beach 12 2 8-12 A P O'Brien 93 SP SP SP
114
Zaidan (USA) 42 2 8-12 C E Brittain - SP SP SP

Last Winner Year Horse Trainer Jockey SP Age Wt Draw
2009 Joshua Tree (IRE) A P O'Brien C O'Donoghue 12/1 2 8-12 5

my miss storm cat 04-15-2011 06:15 PM

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...am/844949/top/

http://www.equidaily.com/bestbet/ext...1/greenh01.pdf

asudevil 04-15-2011 06:21 PM

:tro::tro:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 694381)
This horse better be scratched at least 5 times in his career.


dpkovalesky 04-15-2011 09:43 PM

what time is this race ?

Bigsmc 04-16-2011 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dpkovalesky (Post 769241)
what time is this race ?

10:10 Eastern

3kings 04-16-2011 09:54 AM

Won. paid $2.60

freddymo 04-16-2011 10:54 AM

Post the replay of the race please

Soaring Softly 04-16-2011 12:01 PM

http://horses.sportinglife.com/Video...427407,00.html

Arletta 04-16-2011 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soaring Softly (Post 769313)

:eek:

hurricanefrank 04-16-2011 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 769331)
:eek:

Tremendous turn of foot. Tom Amoss commented that all he was saw was "turf action" regarding his stride. He's alot smarter than me. I was hoping we'd see him stateside.

Seattleallstar 04-16-2011 07:05 PM

Tom Amoss gave a really open and spot on analysis about this horse, because they were starting to crown Frankel best horse in the world. He very well maybe, but he sure as heck can't run on dirt which is just fine. If he was running on dirt vs Uncle Mo or the Factor his american counterparts should dust him good.

my miss storm cat 04-18-2011 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 769539)
should dust him good.

Frankel is a very nice horse BUT I'm wondering if Native Khan will do just that in the Guineas...

Arletta 04-18-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 769990)
Frankel is a very nice horse BUT I'm wondering if Native Khan will do just that in the Guineas...

Who is this horse? I have not heard of him.

my miss storm cat 04-18-2011 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 770002)
Who is this horse? I have not heard of him.

He's a son of Azamour... won the Craven a week or so ago (has won 3 of 4), trained by Dunlop, pretty grey boy haha! :D

Nice nice horse listed at about 10/1 for the Gunieas... connections trying to decide which Derby to send him to (possibly the French one).

One to watch! :tro:

Seattleallstar 04-18-2011 02:54 PM

there could be a few others, Ill let you know as the race approaches.

Indian Charlie 04-18-2011 03:24 PM

What about World Domination?

brockguy 04-18-2011 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 770022)
What about World Domination?

looked VERY good on his debut - i was half shocked to see a hyped horse actually perform on track. Will be Juddmonte's Derby horse if they skip it with Frankel who looks bomb proof for the 2000!

Indian Charlie 04-18-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy (Post 770035)
looked VERY good on his debut - i was half shocked to see a hyped horse actually perform on track. Will be Juddmonte's Derby horse if they skip it with Frankel who looks bomb proof for the 2000!

Yeah, even I (living in the woods of Maine) had heard about how awesome this horse is supposed to be.

I still don't know why they sold Empire Maker, but, my opinion matters naught.

RolloTomasi 04-19-2011 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 769539)
Tom Amoss gave a really open and spot on analysis about this horse, because they were starting to crown Frankel best horse in the world. He very well maybe, but he sure as heck can't run on dirt which is just fine. If he was running on dirt vs Uncle Mo or the Factor his american counterparts should dust him good.

Why can't Frankel run on dirt?

Because Tom Amoss said so? Well, I guess he should know more about the Kentucky Derby than Henry Cecil.

He trained Backtalk to an impressive top-20 finish in last year's race.

Seattleallstar 04-19-2011 12:53 AM

well you can look at the way he runs and the action with which he runs, none of which suggest he will run effectively over dirt. There is nothing wrong with that, but to say hes the best is premature. Nothing wrong with being Oasis Dream

RolloTomasi 04-19-2011 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 770117)
well you can look at the way he runs and the action with which he runs, none of which suggest he will run effectively over dirt. There is nothing wrong with that, but to say hes the best is premature. Nothing wrong with being Oasis Dream

What about the way he runs and his action signify he can't run on dirt?

By the way, Oasis Dream was a 5-6f specialist. Frankel has never raced shorter than 7f in 5 starts.

my miss storm cat 04-23-2011 01:56 PM

For soon-to-be fans of Native Khan, because of the Fallon suspension Peslier just got the mount...

Merlinsky 04-25-2011 02:33 PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011...eas?intcmp=239

Apparently he's passing trains now. They say, of course, to take that with a grain of salt, but the image made me smile. I can't help thinking of Bobby every time I read about this horse, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Riot 04-25-2011 04:15 PM

Thanks for that - can't wait until Saturday.

RolloTomasi 04-25-2011 04:51 PM

From the way the article potrays him as a near "run off", he might be the first 2000 Guineas winner who's odds for the Derby go up after the Newmarket race.

Of course, thanks to Tom Amoss, we know he won't ever handle the dirt, but I wonder if the colt will stay a mile and a half.

_ed_ 04-25-2011 06:55 PM

Haha, I loved the bit about the train!

But possibly the best Cecil has ever trained? That's a huge call.

JJP 04-25-2011 10:11 PM

I can just hear the MTV crowd; "You mean Frankel is NOT named after Brittany Frankel? LOL

Danzig 04-26-2011 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JJP (Post 771377)
I can just hear the MTV crowd; "You mean Frankel is NOT named after Brittany Frankel? LOL

who is brittany frankel?

my miss storm cat 04-28-2011 07:08 PM

Any time you'd like to borrow my daughter and be subjected to watching any of those ridiculous "real housewives" shows let me know.

Some of the people who are fans...

Would you be if his name were Sheikh Mo?

Just sayin... :D

(Go, Native boy). :p

(Oh wow there's a horse named Slim Shady? I wonder if 'Em knows...)

I"m gonna say Native Khan / Roderic O'Connor / Pathfork or Frankel

15:10
13 Run Qipco 2000 Guineas Stakes (Group 1)
Class 1, £350000.00 added, 3yo only, £198695.00 penalty 1m
Form Horse Trainer Age Wgt Jockey

1(12) 112419- Broox (IRE) E J O'Neill 3 9 0 William Buick
2(10) 1211- Casamento (IRE) M Al Zarooni 3 9 0 L Dettori
3(5) 0419-11 Dubawi Gold R Hannon 3 9 0 R Hughes
4(1) 1111-1 Frankel H R A Cecil 3 9 0 T P Queally
5(4) 11- Fury W J Haggas 3 9 0 J P Murtagh
6(7) 41-2 Happy Today (USA) B J Meehan 3 9 0 Martin Dwyer
7(8) 12- Loving Spirit J A R Toller 3 9 0 R Havlin
8(11) 114-1 Native Khan (FR) E A L Dunlop 3 9 0 O Peslier
9(2) 111- Pathfork (USA) Mrs J Harrington 3 9 0 F M Berry
10(13) 13414-2 Rerouted (USA) B W Hills 3 9 0 M Hills
11(3) 3121- Roderic O'Connor (IRE) A P O'Brien 3 9 0 R L Moore
12(9) 116- Saamidd Saeed bin Suroor 3 9 0 M Barzalona
13(6) 561245- Slim Shadey J S Moore 3 9 0 Luke Morris

RolloTomasi 04-28-2011 07:39 PM

If Frankel is ridden too confidently after making the lead, Casamento has a good shot to run him down late.

RolloTomasi 04-29-2011 05:42 PM

Is the 2000 Guineas going to be on TV or the internet live anywhere?

Arletta 04-29-2011 06:39 PM

http://www.skybet.com/betting/horse-...L_RG_Navlink_4

Thoroughbred Fan 04-29-2011 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 772136)
If Frankel is ridden too confidently after making the lead, Casamento has a good shot to run him down late.

No chance. If he wins by less than six lengths, I'd be shocked.

RolloTomasi 04-29-2011 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan (Post 772388)
No chance. If he wins by less than six lengths, I'd be shocked.

I read somewhere he's only 7-2 to win by more than 2 lengths. Still, he has pulled hard in his last couple of races, and they've made mention of trying to "settle him down" in his recent training. You can get away with that sort of behavior in those 5- and 6-horse fields he's been burying but he'll face a full field tomorrow and I'm not so sure he'll be enjoying that "geared down" finish he's used to.

He should win, but his jock might have to work on him a bit late.

Thoroughbred Fan 04-30-2011 07:36 AM

I just think the horse is a freak.

His trainer said last time was the time he might lose due to being short off the bench against at least one Group winner.

He ran greenly and pulled off easily. He had a ton more horse. I think he can get the Arc distance. Horses with that kind of stamina don't often lose for being a little keen at this distance.

We'll know soon.


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