Verbal Abuse of Calvin Borel
 

The verbal abuse Calvin Borel received walking back through the crowd to the jocks room after "Rachel" was defeated is simply an embarrassment to Saratoga Race Course and is an example of uneducated racing fans who follow this great game for 40 Days and couldn't tell you when the Belmont Fall meet opens. The great part of the Saratoga experience is the access and freedom fans have to horses, trainers, jockeys and other personalities throughout the horse industry. And five or ten idiots had to finish a great racing weekend by telling Calvin Borel what he should or shouldn't have done

LEARN THE GAME BEFORE YOU SPEAK!

Stop yelling at me!

Puhleeze. See what they say at AQ in November...this is NY. Calvin is a big boy.

He rode a flawless race. It would have been silly for him to try and rate back - and then come outside of Life At Ten. He did everything he could to discourage Velazquez and force him into grabbing a hold and taking Life At Ten back.

It was a match race... and he won the match race over a horse whos an undefeated Grade 1 winner this year by double digit lengths.

Johnny V. on the other hand - he probably wishes he took hold right now. Being drawn outside, he was the one with options.

'An undefeated G1 winner' with pretty slow Rag numbers


Somehow I don't think this moral victory is making Borel (or Asmussen) feel any better tonight…

Its one of those situations where you are damned if you do and damned if you dont. I really dont blame either riders for what they did.

The connections of Life At Ten had nothing to lose. She's already a Grade 1 winner.

If she takes back and avoids the duel - than RA gets to set her own pace unpressured - and they run 2nd to her.

They sent hard hoping Borel would back down and let them have an easy lead.

Running 2nd beaten 4 lengths instead of 3rd by 11.5 lengths is no great win.

I can tell you never been to Aqueduct, you can't see a jockey with a telescope let alone verbally abuse one after a race

I wish this were true.

Happens to me everyday as I leave HP after calling the races. Passionate game. Fan is short for fanatic. As long as it's not vulgar or personal( Big A exempt) I say If you buy a ticket on a horse you buy the right to complain about the ride. Calvin's a big boy. Chillax.

I am a big fan of Calvin and Im not saying I agree with this, but If Super Saver and Rachel are to run again I could see Calvin off both of them. Shaun is waiting for a crack on Rachel and works her in the mornings. Unless SS comes back at some race at Churchill, I think JV gets the mount.

When I was 19, I went to Yonkers by myself. I witnessed hellacious verbal abuse. I think it scarred me for life.

Well, that explains a lot...:)

yes, because i'm sure that robbie wouldn't get the call if calvin came off.

^^^^ Hope she gets pounded with verbal abuse today.

you're a day late, that happened yesterday.

I am chagrined....would have paid to see it.



Maybe some did.

The verbal abuse was much more than "you stink" they were saying your a mother f%%%%%%. Fall off your next horse. Complaining about a ride with an educated thought is one thing when you buy your ticket. Attacking an individual's character is another

what do you expect. i was there and people were actually crying...no. i am not exagerating. i saw another guy throw stuff all around and kicking things. it was ugly. but you are right many of them don't have a clue about horse racing. thats the advantage all of us (racing geeks) have if we bet right. the only surprise for me, was the horse that won(i had rachel, life at ten and miss singhsix in pic 3's)....i was not the least surprised she did not make the last 50 yards or so. people live in this fantasy world when it comes to BIG horses...they actually believe they are larger than life and unbeatable. it happens in all sports. anyone that follows racing knew she would have a hard time yesterday, regauardless what the shills on TV said....win or lose. this horse runs very hard throughout the entire race. thats her weakness. she did so again yesterday and only sputtered at the very end. it was a brave effort and had nothing to do with calvin. the owners decisions along with the trainer are where the blame lays if there is any. but you won't see people yacking at them over there. the entire season for rachel has been a "spin" game. if you believe anything else then you have not been following racing as long as i have. "vulnerable favorite" is not in the peoples vocabulary that you speak of...they would rather bitch at the jockey.

It was probably those damn TeaBaggers

I was there -compared to the number of people in attendance it was just a handful of looooosers.

Who cares?

Like everyone said.. not the first or last time he'll hear those words.

So a jock that thinks nothing of floating his competitor significantly wide, so that he can gain an advantage, should be immune from getting it stuck up his ass when his tactics fail?

I realize most would consider this race riding and perfectly acceptable.

I'm not exactly a Borel or RA fan, so, let's say the ending was pretty sweet all around. Borel is the typical bully when he has the advantage (as are most). He can dish it out and he should be able to take it.

F u ck him. He looks real pretty when he styles but when it comes to crunch time he can't do what some of the great ones could: help their horse get to the wire.

The bottom line is that this is a free country and people can say what they want. Losing money and drinking don't help folks act with class and dignity.

CB knows these truths and chose a public job that is open to scrutiny. He could have chosen another profession.

Stop crying a river for him.

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Sounds like a normal pizza and a movie night at my house.

I didn't realize you were married to Stone Gossard.

Come to think of it, things now make sense with you two.

How can a thread like this inspire anything?






Tell me what you think about fans yelling and cursing him. Would you?Have you?Why?Why not? Did you come if you screamed at him? Why? Why not? Tell me..tell me right now.

1. Are you 12?

2. Why is Rachel is quotations?

3. I was a little surprised by the uneducated fans bit... I'd have thought it was more the diehards who would yell at him.

4. It's called passion. There is so much passion in this sport we all love. Easy for me to say it's a good thing since I've never been yelled at by random people but come on... it happens. I (am no fan of Calvins but) would never do it and I presume you wouldn't but the reality is that it happens and the jocks can take it. It must suck and everything but they know to expect it.

Calvin made like $2000 for his 2 minutes of work in the race and then taking some crap on the walk back. Not bad if you ask me.

Hell, I have to deal with being compared to bat guano on here, and then be accused of having to look the word up to know what it means.

Last I checked, Borel didn't say anything about fan treatment or comments. I'd say you are the harsh one.

And, for that matter, winning America's most prestigious race three out of four years, an unrivaled accomplishment in this country, oh - and being a half-decent guy, trumps some of your completely unsubstantiated generalities.

I know he wont. Shaun has been working the horse....

Another one with interpretation issues.

Borel likes to style, 'race ride', and celebrate excessively. He got it stuck up his ass yesterday. Having lost plenty of times as a result of one of those rail skimming rides of his, and having to watch him with the fist pumping and kiss blowing, YES, I got some pleasure out of watching him get run down yesterday. Never wrote anything about Borel complaining. Just about how enjoyable it was to me. :rolleyes:

He's jut a PUNK. He doesn't add anything to a horse. He certainly can't finish, even up, with any of the better jocks in the country. He's real good at those cute moves, however.

......you should have been at belmont when smarty jones got beat.

He's a big boy and can handle a few loudmouths. but imo opinion he caused the best horse in the race to lose. He never had to worry about catching Life At Ten, he was always going to catch that one. All he had to do to win the race was to not get cute and do something stupid, but he just couldn't resist. I would never ride the guy in a big race except maybe in the derby or at Churchill.

He knows his way around Oaklawn also...

yep...he has been. but he's not stonestreets first call rider, robbie is...of course robbie is out right now. you did see who rode stonestreets kantharos in robbie's absence, right? i'll give you a hint, not shaun.

[quote=Danzig;690072]yep...he has been. but he's not stonestreets first call rider, robbie is...of course robbie is out right now. you did see who rode stonestreets kantharos in robbie's absence, right? i'll give you a hint, not shaun.[/QUOTE

Ok.