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Any chance the events of the Whitney have Pletcher questioning his 'stuff'? :rolleyes:

Maybe he's at the point where he's rubbing his catcher's head for 'good luck'.

Yeh, he's having an awful meet so far!! LOL

Todd A. Pletcher 70 18 15 5 $1,321,886

you are right hes crushing them...but fat man has a point. another big dog may go down today. this horse is finally facing real comp. just like quality road had to. he better rub something....lol

I not only like her chances to win today, but I don't see her losing the rest of the year, BC included. IMO, she's a SERIOUS racehorse that we can expect great things from, and obliges those who back her from here on out.

The Kansas City Royals have more say in this year's World Series than Quality Road does with how DEVIL MAY CARE performs.

i think devil may care is a safe single today. some serious horses in the distaff division, but i think she's the top 3 yo. she just seems a cut above.

Two possibilities after watching the 2nd race (the 1st race of the day on the dirt):

1) Curlinello is a monster
2) there's an inside speed bias, again

Same here.

Good call

ha ha ha

Gee, yet another FAST HORSE that gets wiped out by a horse that consistently runs AGAINST unfavorable setups.

Can't wait to hear Pletcher's excuse for this one. :rolleyes:

You'd think the plug could've at least gotten 2nd.

No problem. I obviously wasn't alone in liking her today (see place and show pools). The whole time prior to post I was frantically looking for your opinion of the race to possibly link up with your picking prowess for a nice, hefty exacta. Alas, your opinion was absent. Didn't really matter anyway b/c DMC ran like $hit, just chased and faded.

Seriously though, as bad as my heavily opinionated assertion seemed to look out there today, I'd much rather take a stand and lose (not a first) then to be a self proclaimed humorous, monday morning quarterback. Feel free to post your thoughts before the race is what I'm saying.

The jury is still out on the filly. Let's hope she comes back okay and just had one of those bad days that every horse encounters.

Well said, I'd much rather be someone who looks like a complete idiot posting their opinion (see the International Festival of Racing thread for my gems today) then a douchebag who finds joy in mocking someone's poor opinion.

I suck at handicapping, my last winning week was......well its been a long time.

I just thought your opinion was so poor it deserved special recognition. Keep it up I am sure you will find a 2/5 shot who will win for you.

Hmm....

Ah, yet another Cali runner takes down a G1 back east

And gets the best of Pletch chalk, to boot

Sweet


Nothing like drillin' them over those synthetics...

FTFY


...if you seriously believe the reason Blind Luck won today is because she trains over synthetic, you're even more hopeless than I thought. Blind Luck won today because she's the best 3yo filly, period.

insert joke about former claimers winning grade 1 races in california...........oops guess everyone has stooped down to their level, even the historic alabama.

Did you have that Pletch chalk on top in your exacta, phil? lol

I hate to break it to you - but Blind Luck was faster than Devil May Care on everyones figures coming into the race. 104-to-100 on Beyers and she had two negative figures on Thoro-Graph - where DMC had none. I haven't seen the Ragozin's for the race ... but knowing how they are about cutting races loose and splitting variants - I would expect that they might have Blind Luck and Harve De Grace's last race at Delaware significantly faster than any of Devil May Care's races.

What? You are hopeless.

I just said I thought Blind Luck was easily the best 3yo filly, but that her quality had nothing to do with the rubber. Where was anything about DMC?

Really? I don't have the actual data but I seem to recollect she got a 94 for the Oaks? And, apparently, from what Serling said on the prerace show, there was additional, significant, rain just before the Delaware race and there was a question about that figure. Is that the 104 you're referring to?


So all this hype abut DMC by pretty much everyone, was just that, huh? Go figure? Since it's now apparent that ALL thought BL was the better horse. Should I bother looking up some of your comments about DMC?

Probably not.

Her 104 was for the Fantasy. . .

She got a 99 for the Delaware Oaks, which started as a 94 and was then changed to a 95 before being upgraded (correctly) to its current level. She got a 100 today.

No - her 104 Beyer came in the Fantasy - the start before her Kentucky Oaks win. By comparison, Rachel Alexandra won the Fantasy with a 101 the year prior - albeit under a full nelson hold.

Everyones figure for the Delaware Park race is worthless no matter what they came back with because of the bad weather.

Devil May Care is a very good 3-year-old filly .. but she's been found out at 10 furlongs. Her sire Malibu Moon is a good speed influence who was fragile and never raced beyond 5 furlongs. Her younger half bro Regal Ransom is a need the lead type. Devil May Care's top Beyer of 100 came in the Bonnie Miss and her final 1/8th was 13.50 seconds and she was punch drunk. She's basically a miler - but against company like Biofuel and Acting Happy she can beat them further. That's clear after today.

Blind Luck - style wise anyway - reminds me a lot of her dam sire Best of Luck. He was 15 lengths back in the Belmont that Lemon Drop Kid won and closed for 4th place. He won the Stuyvecent at AQU from about 20 lengths back. Just a one dimensional deep closing router who can stay.

you did not read what i said...it had nothing to do with quality road. it had to do with level of comp. and class......devil may care was beating plugs until yesterday. that road came to an end.....as predicted....by me and the fat man and homer. i guess pletcher did not rub anything......lol

I am sure, too, just as I'm sure I could handicap races better than you with my eyes closed. That says ALOT, seeing how poor I've been playing lately.

Maybe one of these days, you'll chime in on one of these threads before the race is run, and we all might be smarter and richer players for listening to you. But until then, stay posting the same stale $hit in a Zenyatta thread or something.

Or take me up on a handicapping contest, loser not being allowed to post on the board ever again. Put your laughably bad opinion up on the line against mine. Loser lurks forever. You'll probably chickenshit and pussyfoot your way out of it with a 'chalk eating weasel' cop-out with some clever line that you've conjured up over the past few hours. Let's see if you have any real ''move up's'' or you are just the lame person that you've painted yourself out to be all these years. In or Out, homey. :confused:

http://drf.com/news/blind-luck-devil...gain-cotillion

It seems like we might see Blind Luck, Devil May Care, and Havre de Grace show up in the Cotillion at 1 1/8.

If they run against Blind Luck again - they better allow DMC to get much more early separation than they had yesterday.

Give me a setup, other than a speed biased track where DMC gets to sit behind a 3 horse speed duel, where she beats BL or, even, HDG. Clearly, she can't run with these two in crunch time. Is she, essentially, done? Even at 9F, I don't think she beats these horses without a perfect trip.

Blind Luck completely out-ran Devil May Care yesterday. It's hard to find an excuse for DMC to be honest.

Blind Luck is legit, relative to the crop anyway. Her KY Oaks was an amazing performance.

^^^^ Romey Homey.




blech

Watch this race.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNemv...feature=search

I've seen the race. We discussed it in detail a while back. All this race shows me is that she can't run under adversity. Granted no horse wins with that trip but her GP and other recent races in NY show that she CAN run when she gets a good setup.

If Devil May Care competed against Blind Luck at her best distance - which is probably 7 furlongs or a mile in my opinion - do you still think she'd only have 2 lengths early separation on her?

After 8fs in the Derby - Devil May Care was still in hand and clearly infront of good miler horses like Conveyance, Discreetly Mine, and Sidney's Candy ... when put to a drive in the final quarter mile, she proceeded to give 10.5 lengths away through a final quarter mile of 26.80

She basically staggered her final quarter mile in a trotter like 28.50 while horses like Ice Box and Make Music For Me absolutely ran over the top of her in the stretch.

I agree that she ran like the 4th best horse in the Alabama field yesterday - but the 10f distance is an excuse - and she is not the 4th best horse in that race. At 7 furlongs - I believe she'd take that field apart. Velazquez thought his best chance was to take her back and try to outfinish Blind Luck.

I just noticed Life At Ten is by Malibu Moon as well. She won the Del Cap at 10 furlongs. I wonder if she can beat Rachel next Sunday at 10 F.

According to some, Rachel cannot get 10 F, despite never even trying the distance. Should be an interesting race of who will last the longest.

According to some L@T is simply to slow.

Life at Ten's two big wins have been aided greatly by circumstances. The track was very speed favoring when she won the Ogden Phipps and tactically she had a gigantic advantage in the Del Cap. She will certainly receive a test the likes of which she hasn't seen before and Rachel will also face the best horse she's seen in 2010, so it's a good matchup I think.

NT

You of all people know this will be hard for me to say, if Rachel is 80% of what she was last year, she will BLAST L@T, totally destroy her.

Zenyatta.