Sidney's Candy?
 

Breeders' cup mile??? That was pretty impressive...

Sid versus Goldikova. Could be the best race of the day.

Yes a true Classic.

Trainer struggles when Supertesting is in play.

If the turf is firm, he could present some real issues for Goldikova...

Really?

One can only wonder if JOSEPHINE would've lost with him today.:rolleyes:

Not to burst your bubble, but Sidneys Candy is likely not even the best Candy Ride turfer in that barn. He freaked today, congrats. He beat nothing and freaked, Im happy for him.
As far as beating Goldikova, really? If Courageous Cat comes back ok, and thats a huge IF, he is easily better then Sidneys Candy.
Lets also not forget Get Stormy at 8f. I would take him any day of the week over Sidneys Candy...

Yeah, the turf is often like it is at Dmr right now in November at CD. God forbid he get looked in the eye by a real speed horse on turf like Get Stormy or someone even better.

It was a very good performance today but to come on here and say he could present a challenge to Goldikova is lunacy.

NT

Surely you jest. The way the 'real speed horse on turf', Get Stormy, got his lunch eaten on a 'real' turf course up at WO? Did Stormy get tired on that long stretch? ha ha ha

GS doesn't sniff this horse's ass. Unless Josephine is up, of course.

It's nice to watch a race where the jocks are gapped as a result of fast fractions; rather than taking back on their own, the way they do at SAR.

I don't know about him being a threat to Goldikova, but you're crazy if you weren't extremely impressed by today's race. I'm a big fan of Get Stormy, but he's nowhere close to as talented as Sidney's Candy, who is much better than Twirling Candy.

Macias, who is a quite good turf sprinter, went with Sid for 6f (in sub 1:09 - I forget the exact time and the chart isn't up yet) and dropped out to finish essentially eased. Meanwhile Sid kept on going to set a new track record for 1 1/16 of 1:39 and some. And the track wasn't especially fast today - good allowance fillies ran a mile in 1:35.27, which is about right for the level.

True, this was just a bunch of promising 3yos - Kid Edward, in particular, should be a good one in longer races - but it was the way he won that has some of us dazed and amazed.

It's not anything against Woodbine but I really don't take much of what goes on there seriously. The horses that seem to be at their best at Woodbine seem to never really have the same punch in the States. Is Rahy's Attorney a GI horse in America? No. Is Grand Adventure a Grade I/II horse in America? No. Is Society's Chairman? No. What about Sterwins, Marchfield, or Marsh Side? No to those as well. Get Stormy's race in Canada was bad, the turf was boggy and I'm sure that hurt.

I didn't in any way say he was going to beat Sidney's Candy but can he put pressure on him? Sure. The original posts in this thread were about Sidney's Candy being a threat to Goldikova, that's completely different than anything about Get Stormy. Does anyone in their right mind think that Sidney's Candy setting a fast pace on a softer Autumn turf course at Churchill will not set up Goldikova incredibly well? I know I don't.

NT

Before his last race none of us really knew who Twirling Candy was, Sidney's Candy was really dull in his comeback, and I defended him and even got bashed on here for it. Was todays performance huge, YES. Do I love him moving forward NO.
Does the 3yr old turf division suck and would I take him over Paddy O'POS, YES.

You really that amazed? The trainer lost at odds on, and packed the wagon full of powder. Doug O'neil's having a big meet. That's like a huge sign that testing is lax down there right now.

Didn't they say that O'neil tried to bring a cripple back in a week? It broke down this week (after pulling up bad last week.) It's like he knows anything goes down there right now. Wants to run them while they have lax testing.

Tuf is a funny business. All I know is that most of the American horses that go up to WO get their butts kicked. Unless it's Ventura, or some such sort. My only point is that GT wires on less than 'challenging' courses. If he's up to this, then maybe, if he was a horse, he'd wire under adversity. But he's not good enough.

As for Goldikova, it'd be nice if, maybe, she didn't get the best trip in the race for the 3rd straight year in the BC. I know she can run, as she seems to not get that 'special' trip over at Europe but it'd be nice to see her actually have to do some work.

The idea behind being a very good trainer is getting your horses to run under less than optimum conditions. I realize that Sadler is very good at stretching horses out and getting them to handle a distance with very little experience. I also realize that this is contrary to how a horse should be trained -- or, maybe, would've been handled by some of the better trainers of the past, who somehow, weren't able to stretch them out as easily as they all seem to out in California. My point is I don't know what Sadler is doing, or McLaughlin, even, when he stretches his sprinters out. But, I do know that THAT **** won't work when some real running needs to be done. Like, today, for example, when Al Khalil collapsed like a PLUG in the stretch. So, maybe Sadler can pull a rabbit out of his hat and get SC to run as well at CD as he did today at DMR. Of course, he certainly failed 1st time around with this. :rolleyes:

The horse got beat by that Skip'n pss horse. That horse couldn't even win the West Virginia Derby. So, don't you think it's odd that Joel just lets a horse (that got a lil late last time) just go as fast as it wants to go? Don't you think he got that confidence from somewhere? Like maybe the trainer told him just get clear, he ain't stopping today. I mean, one of the reasons the horse was able to break the record is they let him run as fast (early) as he wanted to run. For a horse who slowed up late last time, they were pretty damn confident that he wasn't gunna stop today. Just saying. They expect everyone to hit the turf surface change button, and not ask questions. also, a jock change to the top jock. They like to have these 2 factors involved, because it helps give people a reason for a big change in performance.

The performance was one of the best by any horse this year. Macias looked like Sham.

Tell ya, that Jenny has a tough time with that jaw, or whatever is wrong. All the money she has, and that's the best situation they can come up with for her? Damn.

I beleive that was the first time she has been in front of the public in almost 10 years...........Many including myself thought that she was dead, but it must of been a Stroke or M.S. Stiil brave to appear and you should hope we never get to see your, dopie, hoodrat, want to be music anything, action.

Hey I still think Twirling can be better believe it or not. That was one dominating performance. Do you think they will ever run them in the same race?

Oh by the way I have been watching Twirling

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36354

Just once dude, will you at least provide some context when you make one of your posts that make no sense?

Thanks for providing some context there.

She probably got MS from that crappy food she poisons people with.

The Mile could be the most contentious on the card. Makfi, the 2000 Guineas winner, beat both Goldikova and Paco Boy at Deauville today on very soft ground and his ultimate objective is the Mile as well. We don't know if Makfi's contemporaries Canford Cliffs and Dick Turpin, who have beaten him previously, are pointing toward the Mile, but if either comes it could be a barnburner. Dick Turpin is trying 10f on Tuesday at York and if he runs well, he may go the Irish Champion/Champion S (at Newmarket) route instead.

He understood it enough to threaten me.

No, she has some really rare problem. Jaw joint problem, or something unusual. Whatever it is, I wouldn't wish it on anybody.

i remember reading about what happened to her jaw. she had dozed off, and she said her head had tipped forward. something caused her to wake and she abruptly lifted her head, and her lower jaw actually locked over her upper jaw- her lower teeth were actually in front of her upper...she couldn't open her mouth and had to be rushed to the emergency room. its not ms or the like. something i had never heard of happening to anyone.

I brought it up as an example of one of those rare situations where (evidently) money isn't all that helpful. It's just a lil shocking to me that this is the most that could be done for her.

There have been some pretty good turf horses that didn't care for the turf course at Churchill. Seems like horses really bunch up there, and horses are forced to wait until the stretch, or make a tiring move outside of horses on the backstretch/ far turn. It just seems to have a tight feel to the configuration. Track position seems really important on that course.

I've seen Sidney's Candy up close and personal.

He beat my wager in the Santa Anita Derby. That was his day.

I don't think I'll be betting him in any races I foresee.

I do hope Jenny Craig is OK. Giving a little personal, I awoke early the Friday morning of Veterans Day weekend five years ago and realized my left arm was paralyzed from the biceps down. I could move my finger tips, and that was it.


I went back to sleep, hoping it would miraculously be better when I awoke a second time.

It wasn't.

My doctor suspected a stroke or something so I was a resident of a hospital after breakfast and for the three day Veterans Day weekend.

After mega tests and images on and of the heart, brain and spine it was determined my radial nerve in the left arm was dead.

Apparently I slept on it too long, or something.

It took 6 months of physical therapy starting with 1 oz weights, and a little willpower to get it back to about 80%.

I drink beers with my left hand for continued physical therapy and maintenance. Self prescribed therapy, of course.

With my limited education and learnin, I do like to take shots and forget about the subtance.
I have always felt at home here on Derby Trail , considering the total sum of the collective I.Q. is around 100 when you remove the high and low.

BTW
Coach

I was being sarcastic, numbnuts.