Who are the best, as of today?
 

Older Male- Blame, Quality Road

Older Female- Zenyatta, Life At Ten

3-Year-Old Males- Lookin at Lucky, Concord Point

3-Year-Old Females- Devil May Care, Blind Luck...... Not sure how far behind the top 2 Evening Jewel is, I wish she would come for the Alabama

Turf Males- Gio Ponti, The Usual QT

Turf Females- Proviso, Forever Together..... Clearly I would have Tuscan Evening in here, its a shame what happened to her. WatchMaker Watch comment on her needs to be changes ASAP, considering shes not living at all anymore.

Sprinters- Majesticperfection, Bribon

Hollywood Hit is the FASTEST horse (early, at least) sprinting in North America. He, not Bribon, is the real test for Majesticperfection. It's interesting that in listening to discussions before the Vanderbilt about Smokey Fire, the point of reference seemed to be Fatal Bullet, in almost all cases. FB was in a drive from the gate trying to keep up with HH last time out.

Can we get his PP's? Who is the trainer, maybe I can find them on Formulator.

He runs up at WO. Jordan (the JUICER) trains him. Before Jordan got him, he was running on dirt. HH ran 21.91 21.65 for the 1st two splits last out, on the WO tapeta. Those are serious fractions up there. He ran FB into submission and only got run down by Smokey Fire because he didn't change leads in the stretch and was drifting badly, as a result.

His form DRAMATICALLY improved when he was sent to Jordan. His dirt starts were far from anything to be thrilled about, but it's hardly surprising that Jordan moved him up off of CR Trout.

People were bringing up Fatal Bullet with regards to Smokey Fire because he's more of a household name having won stakes races in America. Fact of the matter, as you said, is that Hollywood Hit has absolutely buried him twice this year.

Personally, I think Majesticperfection is better but I'd love to see them lock horns early.

NT

When does Jordan, or when recently has he ran a horse, so I can find the pp's.

I think HH has some physical issues. I would not expect him in the Sprint. He can run a few times a year tops and on syn seems to be his game and even then it is difficult to keep him sound.

Alwaysadream
8/06, WO, R8

Thanks.

Hollywood Hit looked better to me last year, both he and Fatal Bullet look slower. Fatal Bullet hasn't been as fast as his 3 yr old season when he finished 2nd in The BC. I'm not sure what is going on with HH where he normally would have smoked Smokey Fire in that race, except that Jordan looks more mortal this year.

Slower?

Yeah. Jordan was even better than Pletcher last year in that his horses were able to duel and KEEP GOING. This included HH and that nice mare of his Amazon Belle. (She come back even more 'mortal' than HH. )

HH has certainly not been as good this year but he's shown enough to indicate that he's LEGITIMATELY good. He beats SF easily last out if he changes leads. Watch the headon, he's staggering and drifting significantly in the stretch before the jocks finally snatches him and straightens him out a bit late.

Which brings up the question: what good is a jock if he/she can't help the horse a little bit? Is there a jock in the country that can consistently get a tiring horse going lefty to change leads?

You know I watch a fair amount of Woodbine races, and beating Jordan which would have been suicidal last year, this year atleast has been worth trying. I think the positive he had has scared him enough where he is playing it straight enough where you see the difference in the performances of a Hollywood Hit. I do know last year he would have been a handful for any horse in NA at 6 furlongs, Fatal Bullet on the other hand appearing in a route was a red flag to me he is not as fast as he once was, Baker tried unsuccessfully to stretch him out, now he is back to sprinting. I think we've seen the best of him and he doesn't look to be recovering his 3 yr old form. Jimmy Mac has never been one of my favorite jocks, his stats this year have dropped, he just happened to hook up with the right trainer's last yr.

The Usual Q.T. is such an awesome horse.

Shouldn't Discreetly Mine be part of the sprint discussion?

Paul

Really good call, I would have no problem replacing Bribon with DM.

Interesting exclusion in one of the categories.

Who?

I don't think it's that hard to figure out. ;)

RA

What has she done this year, THIS YEAR... To be ahead of the 2 mentioned? This is not the Raw Talent thread.

Oh, I'm not sayin she deserves to be mentioned. I'm telling you the horse he is referring to.

A better case could be made for a prospective BC turf runner.

Straight Story?
Twirling Candy?
Loup Breton?

The one I'm thinking of is good but has no balls.

Please God dont be Take The Points....
Courageous Cat is working again, who knows how he will come back. WHAT A JOKE SENDING HIM TO DUBAI.

Don't be silly. None of the above.

Ok come on, WHO?

Hasn't run this year in California,Virginia,New York,Florida,Kentucky or Illinois.

I have no clue dude, just say it. Im sure this horse is horrible.

Sorry, had to nap.

keywords

no balls
BREEDERS CUP
turf
title defense
notable childrens book

good luck

I have no clue.... Someone?

Just say the horse PLEASE.

Wrong clue to give.

Yes, we're all excited about Goldikova.

NT

Dude LOL....
Your clues are horrible cause you said BC Turf.
Of the 3 races the turf would be the last option. Shes heading to the mile.
How would I have ever guessed this?

he didn't say BC turf. had clues listed, two of which were

breeders cup
turf

He did, I quoted it.
Either way it can be written off as a misunderstanding. I was thinking males, and at least a horse who ran at some point in this country. PLUS PLUS PLUS the Mile is not even on my list, so its totally out of no where.