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Riot 08-03-2010 05:31 PM

Sharron Angle hands election to Harry Reid
 
Sharron ... first, you said children who where raped by their fathers should bear the baby (no abortion permitted) should they become pregnant because it was God's will.

Then, you said you are running on no liquor in Vegas.

And repealing Medicare and Social Security

And your current PR blitz is:

http://www.nationalreview.com/battle...elizabeth-crum

Danzig 08-03-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 677850)
Sharron ... first, you said children who where raped by their fathers should bear the baby (no abortion permitted) should they become pregnant because it was God's will.

Then, you said you are running on no liquor in Vegas.

And repealing Medicare and Social Security

And your current PR blitz is:

http://www.nationalreview.com/battle...elizabeth-crum


yeah, because 'god has a plan' and when god hands you lemons, apparently you're supposed to make lemonade. :rolleyes:


omg. i just read the link. lol she wants the press to be her friend...she sounded like someone else just then.


sarah palin:

"I think it's appalling and a violation of our freedom of the press."
—Speaking about the negative media coverage of Republican congressional candidate Vaughn Ward, Boise, Idaho, May 21, 2010

Riot 08-03-2010 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 677865)
sarah palin:
"I think it's appalling and a violation of our freedom of the press."
—Speaking about the negative media coverage of Republican congressional candidate Vaughn Ward, Boise, Idaho, May 21, 2010


Sharron Angle on the press -
"We wanted them to ask the questions we want to answer so that they report the news the way we want it to be reported.”

UPDATE:

Quote:

Hours after her latest interview snafu, Nevada Republican Senate candidate Sharron Angle is buffing up her communications team by bringing on board an experienced GOP operative to help steady a decidedly shaky campaign.

The Tea Party favorite continued her brand of bizarre if not painfully candid remarks when she told Fox News on Monday night that she wanted the press to ask her only questions she wants to answer. By Tuesday afternoon, the National Republican Senatorial Committee was alerting reporters that Angle had a new communications director on her team.

Jarrod Agen, who previously worked as the communications director for Steve Poizner's failed gubernatorial primary bid in California, will take over the position temporarily filled by Jordan Gehrke.

DerbyCat 08-03-2010 07:56 PM

I believe what she really wants is some to run her Propaganda campaign... This isn't about being elected, she wants to take control and force her Christian ways upon us all.

Cannon Shell 08-03-2010 09:32 PM

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._nevada_senate

Despite all the hoopla she trails by 2 % points. Since the economic news looks like it is about to get worse a hard hit state like Nevada is much more likely to forget stuff that happens in July when they are voting in November especially since the GOP finally installed a professional mouthpiece for Angle. The idea that Harry Reid is a lock to win is a bit premature.

Riot 08-03-2010 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 677900)
Despite all the hoopla she trails by 2 % points. Since the economic news looks like it is about to get worse a hard hit state like Nevada is much more likely to forget stuff that happens in July when they are voting in November especially since the GOP finally installed a professional mouthpiece for Angle. The idea that Harry Reid is a lock to win is a bit premature.

Angle used to be ahead by 11.

Edit: and remember that Angle is famously on record recently saying that, as a US Senator, it is "not her job" to help create jobs.

Antitrust32 08-04-2010 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 677900)
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._nevada_senate

Despite all the hoopla she trails by 2 % points. Since the economic news looks like it is about to get worse a hard hit state like Nevada is much more likely to forget stuff that happens in July when they are voting in November especially since the GOP finally installed a professional mouthpiece for Angle. The idea that Harry Reid is a lock to win is a bit premature.

I really want Harry Reid to beat this crazy bitch.

Riot 08-04-2010 08:45 AM


GenuineRisk 08-04-2010 08:59 AM

In defense of Angle's abortion position- she's actually being much more consistent than most of America. If one really believes abortion is murder, then it's murder no matter under what circumstances the baby was conceived. A baby conceived from rape is just as innoncent as one conceived from not using a condom.

Opposing abortion except in cases of rape and incest means simply that you are opposed to women having consensual sex for reasons other than procreation. Angle's position is considerably less offensive.

And Republicans have opposed Social Security since its inception. Angle is just being open about the right's position on these issues, rather than hiding behind doublespeak about trickle-down and self-reliance and states' rights and whatever other gobbledygook is spewed to cover up the objective of institutionalizing inequality. She's just being honest. And people are calling her crazy for it.

But yes, she is handing Reid the election on a silver platter. Which, for this liberal, sucks, as I'd rather see someone else in charge of the Senate.

clyde 08-04-2010 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 678000)
In defense of Angle's abortion position- she's actually being much more consistent than most of America. If one really believes abortion is murder, then it's murder no matter under what circumstances the baby was conceived. A baby conceived from rape is just as innoncent as one conceived from not using a condom.

Opposing abortion except in cases of rape and incest means simply that you are opposed to women having consensual sex for reasons other than procreation. Angle's position is considerably less offensive.

And Republicans have opposed Social Security since its inception. Angle is just being open about the right's position on these issues, rather than hiding behind doublespeak about trickle-down and self-reliance and states' rights and whatever other gobbledygook is spewed to cover up the objective of institutionalizing inequality. She's just being honest. And people are calling her crazy for it.

But yes, she is handing Reid the election on a silver platter. Which, for this liberal, sucks, as I'd rather see someone else in charge of the Senate.


Someone has spoken well of you...perhaps they o d'd on their antihistamines.


All the same...is there a way I can receive a photo of your boo bees today?

AeWingnut 08-04-2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 677962)
I really want Harry Reid to beat this crazy bitch.

I will never set foot in Las Vegas as long as Harry Reid is in office

joeydb 08-04-2010 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 677871)
Sharron Angle on the press -
"We wanted them to ask the questions we want to answer so that they report the news the way we want it to be reported.”

UPDATE:

How's that different from what liberal Democrats have been doing? Is this OK if the press actually is your friend, again, like the liberals have?

joeydb 08-04-2010 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 678000)
In defense of Angle's abortion position- she's actually being much more consistent than most of America. If one really believes abortion is murder, then it's murder no matter under what circumstances the baby was conceived. A baby conceived from rape is just as innoncent as one conceived from not using a condom.

Opposing abortion except in cases of rape and incest means simply that you are opposed to women having consensual sex for reasons other than procreation. Angle's position is considerably less offensive.

And Republicans have opposed Social Security since its inception. Angle is just being open about the right's position on these issues, rather than hiding behind doublespeak about trickle-down and self-reliance and states' rights and whatever other gobbledygook is spewed to cover up the objective of institutionalizing inequality. She's just being honest. And people are calling her crazy for it.

But yes, she is handing Reid the election on a silver platter. Which, for this liberal, sucks, as I'd rather see someone else in charge of the Senate.

Good points, and she might be seen as radical in a blue state.

But if life does begin at conception, which is more likely than any other place, her position is not crazy.

And many oppose social security because of it being an actual Ponzi scheme that must crash, and people will be left holding the bag at retirement no matter how many adjustments are made. That is also not crazy.

But as I led out with in this response, it might be too far a departure from the positions of previous senators for this election.

Riot 08-04-2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 678067)
But if life does begin at conception, which is more likely than any other place, her position is not crazy.

Angles position is beyond crazy to women that think they should not be forced by law to incubate, birth, financially and physically support, and raise the child of the criminal who raped them.

I disagree that Angle is all that honest in reflecting her beliefs and intentions if elected to the Senate. She is going out of her way to hide those very values from public scrutiny, in an attempt to get elected, from taking her positions off her website to avoiding questions from the press and public.

Nascar1966 08-04-2010 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 678055)
I will never set foot in Las Vegas as long as Harry Reid is in office

I will make it two of us. F Reid.

joeydb 08-04-2010 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 678072)
Angles position is beyond crazy to women that think they should not be forced by law to incubate, birth, financially and physically support, and raise the child of the criminal who raped them.

I disagree that Angle is all that honest in reflecting her beliefs and intentions if elected to the Senate. She is going out of her way to hide those very values from public scrutiny, in an attempt to get elected, from taking her positions off her website to avoiding questions from the press and public.

Your first point illustrates what a problem the abortion issue is. You are correct in that of course the crime of rape should not carry longterm or life long additional damages for the woman. The problem is what to do with a life that is by its very definition, innocent. If there is a capital sentence in the crime, it ought not be carried out on an innocent life. No one has found a good answer to this yet.

Your second point seems to be that you fear that Angle will employ exactly the same tactics in getting elected -- I'll quote you here: "She is going out of her way to hide those very values from public scrutiny, in an attempt to get elected, from taking her positions off her website to avoiding questions from the press and public." -- as Obama did. It's just different values this time. She's not a socialist.

miraja2 08-04-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 678000)
In defense of Angle's abortion position- she's actually being much more consistent than most of America. If one really believes abortion is murder, then it's murder no matter under what circumstances the baby was conceived. A baby conceived from rape is just as innoncent as one conceived from not using a condom.

Opposing abortion except in cases of rape and incest means simply that you are opposed to women having consensual sex for reasons other than procreation. Angle's position is considerably less offensive.

And Republicans have opposed Social Security since its inception. Angle is just being open about the right's position on these issues, rather than hiding behind doublespeak about trickle-down and self-reliance and states' rights and whatever other gobbledygook is spewed to cover up the objective of institutionalizing inequality. She's just being honest. And people are calling her crazy for it.

But yes, she is handing Reid the election on a silver platter. Which, for this liberal, sucks, as I'd rather see someone else in charge of the Senate.

:tro:

Riot 08-04-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 678099)
Your second point seems to be that you fear that Angle will employ exactly the same tactics in getting elected -- I'll quote you here: "She is going out of her way to hide those very values from public scrutiny, in an attempt to get elected, from taking her positions off her website to avoiding questions from the press and public." -- as Obama did. It's just different values this time. She's not a socialist.

:zz:

Prior to election, Obama didn't avoid the press nor interviews as Angle is doing. He participated in multiple public candidate debates and press conferences. Obama didn't take controversial or extremist views and issues off his website to hide them from public view. If that's not true, perhaps you could point out what you are specifically talking about.

timmgirvan 08-04-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 677988)

Keep dreaming!

Riot 08-04-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 678132)
Keep dreaming!

That's true, the GOP seems to have embraced the Tea Party with open arms.

joeydb 08-04-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 678131)
:zz:

Prior to election, Obama didn't avoid the press nor interviews as Angle is doing. He participated in multiple public candidate debates and press conferences. Obama didn't take controversial or extremist views and issues off his website to hide them from public view. If that's not true, perhaps you could point out what you are specifically talking about.

He kept his views hidden, distancing himself from terrorist Bill Ayers, reverend Jeremiah Wright, and the radicals he has surrounded himself with for years, until he became president and could hire radicals like Van Jones, Cass Sundstein and Anita Dunn. And now he has a redistributionist for the new head of the Medicare and Medicaid programs, who is presumably the guy who will usher in ObamaCare.

He stopped talking about a civilian military-style security force because people were getting nervous. He slipped and told "Joe the Plumber" that he wanted to "spread the wealth around".

He did take things down off of his website, but that was after he was president-elect. The whole "forced volunteerism" thing was taken down in short order.

Without the stealth, the very polished political consultants, the implications of racism against his critics, the watered down "Yes we can" and "Change" slogans, he wouldn't have quite made it.

Riot 08-04-2010 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 678137)
He kept his views hidden, distancing himself from terrorist Bill Ayers, reverend Jeremiah Wright, and the radicals he has surrounded himself with for years, until he became president and could hire radicals like Van Jones, Cass Sundstein and Anita Dunn. And now he has a redistributionist for the new head of the Medicare and Medicaid programs, who is presumably the guy who will usher in ObamaCare.

He stopped talking about a civilian military-style security force because people were getting nervous. He slipped and told "Joe the Plumber" that he wanted to "spread the wealth around".

He did take things down off of his website, but that was after he was president-elect. The whole "forced volunteerism" thing was taken down in short order.

Without the stealth, the very polished political consultants, the implications of racism against his critics, the watered down "Yes we can" and "Change" slogans, he wouldn't have quite made it.

I am sure Glenn Beck loves you.

joeydb 08-04-2010 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 678139)
I am sure Glenn Beck loves you.

Never met the man.

As for the security force quote, not making it up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y

Maybe you hadn't heard it before?

timmgirvan 08-04-2010 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 678136)
That's true, the GOP seems to have embraced the Tea Party with open arms.

Not exactly! Do you even know what impeccable means?

clyde 08-04-2010 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 678153)
Not exactly! Do you even know what impeccable means?


dough!!




You had to ask??

Antitrust32 08-04-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 678055)
I will never set foot in Las Vegas as long as Harry Reid is in office

Honestly I cant stand Harry Reid. But Sharron Angle seems to be an equally bad choice, and at lead Reid isnt bat **** crazy like Angle.

I hope a third person gets voted in.

Riot 08-04-2010 03:34 PM

And the Sharron Angle angle gets better and better:

Quote:

Sharron Angle Says Democrats' Agenda Violates 'The First Commandment,' Frames Reid As Dark Overlord

Nevada Republican Senate candidate Sharron Angle has long seen religious meaning behind her candidacy, going so far as to tell supporters that God was behind her rise from political obscurity, guiding her path to Congress.

On Wednesday, the celestial threads took another turn towards the bizarre, as Nevada political reporter Jon Ralston uncovered an interview in which the Tea Party favorite said that actions of the federal government were a "violation of the First Commandment" -- not amendment, commandment.

"I know people are very frightened about what's going on in this country," Angle said in an interview that originally aired on April 21 with TruNews Christian Radio's Rick Wile. "And these programs that you mentioned -- that Obama has going with Reid and Pelosi pushing them forward -- are all entitlement programs built to make government our God. And that's really what's happening in this country is a violation of the First Commandment. We have become a country entrenched in idolatry, and that idolatry is the dependency upon our government. We're supposed to depend upon God for our protection and our provision and for our daily bread, not for our government. And you've just identified the real crux of the problem."

This statement alone was a rather glaring reflection of just how infused religion is in Angle's political mindset. The Nevada Republican has already made major waves arguing in opposition to abortion even in cases of rape and incest.

But once Ralston published the exchange, things grew even more bizarre. Angle's communications director, Jarrod Agen -- who was hired, it should be noted, less than 24 hours ago -- sent a clarifying statement to the reporter that was dipped even deeper in religious tones, framing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) as a sort of dark overlord.

"Only the supreme arrogance of Senator Reid would believe that he has a divine right to rule over mere mortals by ramming through Obamacare, billions in reckless spending, and yes, buying cocaine for monkeys," Agen said. "The fact is, Reid has acted like he's all-powerful and accountable to no one. People are frustrated because, like Sharron, they understand Washington has become a giant, unseen, omnipotent force whose presence is felt in all our lives whether we like it or not."

The statement provoked a slew of seemingly shocked tweets from Ralston who took the response as sincere. Only after the fact did the campaign get in touch with him to insist the statement was facetious.

Asked to clarify whether, in fact, he was being sincere or sarcastic, Agen said there was "a little of both in there."

In all, the entire episode seems likely to end up being just another footnote in a Senate candidacy that has been filled with incredible oddities and dramatics. But context remains important. It's not unusual for a candidate to invoke his or her religion in the course of an election. Harry Reid himself has said it's difficult to "separate your religion from your politics, its part of your personality. It is part of who you are."

It's rare, however, for a candidate to insist that their candidacy is imbued with religion itself.

Angle has certainly raised the bar for envelop-pushing statements. Whether those following the campaign will adjust their expectations and coverage as a result (or continue to call a spade a spade) will matter as Election Day approaches.

Riot 08-04-2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 678145)
Never met the man.

As for the security force quote, not making it up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y

Maybe you hadn't heard it before?

:D You want to be taken seriously, yet you post that video?

Yes, I've heard that before - the whole speech - not just one cut off sentence!

Riot 08-04-2010 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 678153)
Not exactly! Do you even know what impeccable means?

You want to make the argument that the GOP has not embraced the Tea Party?
Please, go right ahead.

timmgirvan 08-04-2010 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 678207)
You want to make the argument that the GOP has not embraced the Tea Party?
Please, go right ahead.

read something other than Rolling Stone,Slate and Newsweek and you'd see!
Forgot to mention DU...silly, I know:eek:

Riot 08-04-2010 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 678210)
read something other than Rolling Stone,Slate and Newsweek and you'd see!
Forgot to mention DU...silly, I know:eek:

Sorry, I don't read any of the above. I don't know what DU is. I do read Daily Beast.

I haven't seen the argument that "the GOP has not embraced the Tea Party" anywhere - even on conservative sites. How about posting a reference, if that belief is out there in multiple media?

timmgirvan 08-04-2010 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 678226)
Sorry, I don't read any of the above. I don't know what DU is. I do read Daily Beast.

I haven't seen the argument that "the GOP has not embraced the Tea Party" anywhere - even on conservative sites. How about posting a reference, if that belief is out there in multiple media?

When I can, if I can! You seem to think that something positive will be said about TeaParty and Repubs in MSM!!! Not probable or likely.......but I'll look.
Forgive me for taking the nite off:rolleyes:

Riot 08-04-2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 678228)
When I can, if I can! You seem to think that something positive will be said about TeaParty and Repubs in MSM!!! Not probable or likely.......but I'll look.
Forgive me for taking the nite off:rolleyes:

Forgiven :)

But we're not talking about finding positive PR regarding the Tea Party and Republican party (and no, I hope there is not "PR" in the MSM as Sharron Angle wishes, just "reporting"), the contention was that the GOP is not trying to embrace the Tea Party. No, have not seen that. Quite the opposite.

dellinger63 08-04-2010 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 678226)
Sorry, I don't read any of the above?

please you almost squirted over the Rolliing Stone article with the General bashing Obama & Co! Of course that was personality #3 and not #6

Riot 08-04-2010 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 678253)
please you almost squirted over the Rolliing Stone article with the General bashing Obama & Co! Of course that was personality #3 and not #6

No Dell, I don't read Rolling Stone regularly. Sorry.

dellinger63 08-04-2010 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 678336)
No Dell, I don't read Rolling Stone regularly. Sorry.


Post number 31 of this thread Sybil

AeWingnut 08-04-2010 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 678181)
Honestly I cant stand Harry Reid. But Sharron Angle seems to be an equally bad choice, and at lead Reid isnt bat **** crazy like Angle.

I hope a third person gets voted in.

I haven't been following the race but figure she couldn't be any worse than Harry

I'm guessing Angle doesn't want the federal government to be big brother
and that has the nannies hyperventilating

Riot 08-04-2010 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 678342)
Post number 31 of this thread Sybil

When the stuff about McCrystal came out, yes, I went to and read the original article. And no, I don't read Rolling Stone daily or regularly.

I know those are two extremely complex thoughts, and you obviously have a very hard time understanding how both can be true. Good luck :tro:

Smooth Operator 08-04-2010 09:45 PM

Classic not-ready-for-prime-time teabagger

Hilarious that they have some slick con helping the doofus now.

Rupert Pupkin 08-05-2010 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 678394)
Classic not-ready-for-prime-time teabagger

Hilarious that they have some slick con helping the doofus now.

Slick con? Bill Clinton?


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