7/24 (MTH): Lady's Secret S. feat. Rachel Alexandra
 

11th (5:50)

Lady's Secret S.

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med.
1 Stage Trick Trujillo E 118 L
2 Queen Martha Bravo J 118 L
3 Ask the Moon Rose J 118 L
4 Hark Marquez C H Jr 118 L
5 Rachel Alexandra Borel C H 123 L
6 Fabulous Babe Fragoso P 118 L
7 Yes She's a Lady Castro E 120 L

I haven't heard of any of these horse ( Rachel excluded )

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It's an absolutely pitiful field, but there are a few who have some speed.

NT

and yet people still criticize who Zenyatta runs against. I can find a trotter to beat this field.

What does that mean? She should get a Mother Goose like trip and win by 25... Ughhh only if Icon Project was still in training.

Chuck,
I think next time you can't get one of Bob's horses entered you should call up Monmouth and let them know that while you may not be running Rachel Alexandra, you're bringing Mr. Chicago and you'd like your own race carded.

Hopefully she's reversed the trend but the confidence that there was last year when Rachel took on her own sex does not exist this year.

That being said, she could probably win the race if they gave those other crows a 70 yd head start.

NT

Im sure Rachel will win if any of us were the jockey as long as we stay in the saddle.

Well Zenyatta keeps winning, so Im guessing in order to see them together Rachel needs to win, lets not forget the 2 shitty defeats to start the year. Lets also not forget the 2 horses who beat her, both came back to lose. Hopefully Rachel wins by 20 and since the Z camp won commit to Del Mar maybe serious talks about the Personal Ensign will heat up, especially with the detention barn being gone now. The same connections had a bad time with Giacomo in the detention barn, a few years back in the Belmont.

Jess might as well die. All he really had going for him was the mirage of "sportsmanship."

Both connections are selfish and have hurt the sport more than helped it. It's absolutely embarrassing that two of the best horses in training have pansies for owners.

I agree with that, but it seems like most people only want to knock Z's connections. No one should ever forget, she did show up at Oaklawn.

And that is supposed to make up for their cowardly campaign last year and the rest of this year?

Please.

They did send Curlin to the BCC, why not send her? Are they the same horse? My opinion all along is Zenyatta is superior, but I agree the connections of both are pitiful.

Realistically what do you think the chances of Zenyatta shipping to Saratoga are? Would 0-5% be fair?

Realistically the chances are thin, but like Fat Man says at this point she does not have to ship. She is far ahead of Rachel IMO for any award right now. This race Rachel is running in on Saturday does nothing as far as HOY or Older Filly n Mare. Maybe the Beldame is more likely, but if Rachel does not continue to win there would be no point of even discussing it, and thats my only point. Back to HOY, thats QR to lose.

So basically it's a waste of time to even bring it up?

I don't want to get banned

The over/under on starters is 5 1/2

You may find this hard to understand, but Rachel Alexandra's weak schedule this year doesn't, in any way, excuse or validate Zenyatta's equally pathetic campaign.

What do you not understand? Rachel and Z were supposed to run at Oaklawn, who showed up and cruised, payed workout and who was home?
I dont understand why this is such an argument, Z ran in the biggest race last year and showed up at Oaklawn.

Nice glasses.

Its funny super fly mod, or whatever you call yourself. Its funny and typical of you, when you have nothing at all to say, no response, nothing intelligent. You then resort to taking cheap personal shots.

doh!

I do not believe anyone pointing out this fabricated race at Monmouth is looking to validate or excuse what you call Zenyatta's pathetic campaign .

Zenyatta could have been more ambitiously placed, but her campaign this year absolutely does trump Rachel's--and it remains a perfect score .

I can not see how that is difficult for you .

50 percent of Rachel's races have been tailored for her, and she has lost 2/3 of her efforts to date .

None of Zenyatta's races have been tailored for her, and they have been grade 1 races exclusively including handicaps .

Both mares have been running on easy street this year, but so far Rachel's has simply been the more pathetic course .

You can't be serious. Every one of Zenyatta's efforts in rubberworld is "tailored" for her. She gets the same lousy class of mare every single time on the same dumbass surface. Their campaigns have been equally gutless, and if it's not exactly equal, it's a difference so small it's not worth arguing about.

My point, which you missed, was that it continues to be the Zenyatta fans who invoke the "other" horse in these discussions in a desperate need to validate their paper champion.

I wouldnt be so quick to trumpet Zenyatta's handicap races as she hasnt been given a fair weight in at least a year.

You have to try very hard to find a softer path than Zenyatta has taken. But it looks like Ol Jess has accomplished that.

This field is a joke.

Is it okay if I believe Zenyatta is just pretty good with pu$$y connections AND Rachel's campaign this year is a complete joke, or do I have to take a side?

And how is that her ****ing fault Chuckie. Its worth 400k.

Well the Whitney is in 2 weeks, the Del Cap was last weekend. What would have been wrong with either of those? O yes, the 10f and QR.

It is her fault because they needed to have monmouth change the date and distance of the race which was already going to be pretty much a layup. It doesnt take a master horseman to figure out that there are other graded options available (you know the races that the good horses are supposed to run in?) and virtually no one would run in the RA invitational.

Give me a break. She beat males and older males 3 times last year....She only regained her old form for the last race.

Zenyatta could have run in these races also. The connections of both horses are ducking.

Ok. :zz:

Hmm, Zenyatta is running in and being pointed to Grade 1's. You dont see the difference?

Zenyattas Classic, I agree it was not the best of the best, but it was TONS BETTER then anything Rachel faced in the Woodward.

So you are saying that this is not the cowardly path? That they shouldn't be chastised for talking all that crap about how great she is and then have these kinds of fields created for her? That we are supposed to be "oh so happy to just see her compete" or " be happy he didnt retire her"?

What's even more pathetic is that the hopeless Yes She's a Lady gets a whopping 3 pounds from the HOY, despite not winning a race in over a year. This is a complete joke, and I truly hope she loses, and I'm someone who actually loves Rachel.

Come on man. I know you are smarter than this. Grade 1? The races are a joke. They are both ducking top competition.

This group is so bad that it virtually impossible without Borel falling off.

The rest of the field is 4 for 20 on the year with 3 of those wins coming in claiming races at Oaklawn by Fablous Babe who is coming in off of a 62 beyer in an optional claimer.