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RockHardTen1985 07-18-2010 07:36 PM

Del Mar
 
Extremely disappointed, 3 days 24 races and not one 2yr old Maiden Special Weight race. Where are the baby races?

Smooth Operator 07-18-2010 07:57 PM

Maybe they're finally wising up and doing the right thing … BANNING "BABY RACES".



Horses must be at least three-years-old before they can race

The Triple Crown races are for four-year-olds

No horse can become a stallion till at least age six




Ah … wouldn't it be nice.....................

Scav 07-18-2010 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 670822)
Maybe they're finally wising up and doing the right thing … BANNING "BABY RACES".



Horses must be at least three-years-old before they can race

The Triple Crown races are for four-year-olds

No horse can become a stallion till at least age six




Ah … wouldn't it be nice.....................

Guess you didn't read the report that two year olds were less likely to break down then 3+ horses...

Cannon Shell 07-18-2010 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 670822)
Maybe they're finally wising up and doing the right thing … BANNING "BABY RACES".



Horses must be at least three-years-old before they can race

The Triple Crown races are for four-year-olds

No horse can become a stallion till at least age six




Ah … wouldn't it be nice.....................

No it would be pointless, chase more owners out of the game and be detrimental to the horses themselves.

Other than that it's a fine idea.

the_fat_man 07-18-2010 08:05 PM

Let's temper it a bit then. How about we card only 5F or greater races for 2 year olds. I don't have a problem with 2 year olds running in general. I do have a problem when they run 2F, 4F and 4.5F. These races are a ****in' joke. You have racing secretaries that never bother to mix their distances (5f, 5.5f. 6f, 6.5f, 7f, in the sprints, for example) yet they card these sham races.

If they can't get 5F, they should be racing against poodles.

NYRA, at least, to their credit, get this part right.

Rupert Pupkin 07-18-2010 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 670807)
Extremely disappointed, 3 days 24 races and not one 2yr old Maiden Special Weight race. Where are the baby races?

They usually have the MSW 2 year old races on the weekend. Del Mar is not like Saratoga. They don't have MSW races every day. They just have a couple every weekend.

RockHardTen1985 07-18-2010 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 670831)
They usually have the MSW 2 year old races on the weekend. Del Mar is not like Saratoga. They don't have MSW races every day. They just have a couple every weekend.

Ok then.
I was excited looking for the next big Baffert.

Cannon Shell 07-18-2010 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 670830)
Let's temper it a bit then. How about we card only 5F or greater races for 2 year olds. I don't have a problem with 2 year olds running in general. I do have a problem when they run 2F, 4F and 4.5F. These races are a ****in' joke. You have racing secretaries that never bother to mix their distances (5f, 5.5f. 6f, 6.5f, 7f, in the sprints, for example) yet they card these sham races.

If they can't get 5F, they should be racing against poodles.

NYRA, at least, to their credit, get this part right.

You mean the 15 races a year run nationwide at these distances are just too much to handle?

Rupert Pupkin 07-18-2010 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 670835)
Ok then.
I was excited looking for the next big Baffert.

I'm sure he'll have at least one in each of the MSW races on opening weekend.

the_fat_man 07-18-2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 670836)
You mean the 15 races a year run nationwide at these distances are just too much to handle?

Nationwide? You have any idea how many of these there are between HOL, GG, CD, AP, CRC, WO, etc.?

A lot more than 15. But your point is well taken: run them when they can't get a reasonable distance so that the owners get hooked even more. Why keep them in the barn or on the farm and let them develop to the point when they can actually compete as horses?:rolleyes:

Smooth Operator 07-18-2010 08:38 PM

Too bad Z didn't start as a baby...................

cakes44 07-18-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 670854)
Too bad Z didn't start as a baby...................

Hell I'd take January, February, May, or July of this year.

Smooth Operator 07-18-2010 08:46 PM

Cigar too

Cannon Shell 07-18-2010 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 670845)
Nationwide? You have any idea how many of these there are between HOL, GG, CD, AP, CRC, WO, etc.?

A lot more than 15. But your point is well taken: run them when they can't get a reasonable distance so that the owners get hooked even more. Why keep them in the barn or on the farm and let them develop to the point when they can actually compete as horses?:rolleyes:

Yeah there might be 20 or 25 out of how many races run this year? 40000 or 50000?

And yes owners get "hooked" on running horses 4 1/2 furlongs. Turns them into zombies that just start spending more and more.

There are few things in this sport, which is full of bad ideas, that is more idiotic or disproven than the idea that horses shouldnt compete as 2 year olds.

dalakhani 07-18-2010 09:02 PM

Guys, Charlestown runs 15 4.5f races every week.

dalakhani 07-18-2010 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 670858)
Hell I'd take January, February, May, or July of this year.

Cakes,

It won't get much pub, but that was very clever.

Cheers!:)

RockHardTen1985 07-18-2010 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 670869)
Guys, Charlestown runs 15 4.5f races every week.

I think his point is based just on 2yr olds.

dalakhani 07-18-2010 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 670871)
I think his point is based just on 2yr olds.

Okay, charlestown runs 15-20 4.5 furlong races for two year olds every month.

Smooth Operator 07-18-2010 09:10 PM

How the hell did Forego make it to the gate nearly sixty times??????????????

Smooth Operator 07-18-2010 09:17 PM

I just hope QR doesn't collapse from exhaustion at the sixteenth pole in the Whitney, cakes.

Seems like forever since we've seen him on the track...

the_fat_man 07-18-2010 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 670862)
Yeah there might be 20 or 25 out of how many races run this year? 40000 or 50000?

And yes owners get "hooked" on running horses 4 1/2 furlongs. Turns them into zombies that just start spending more and more.

There are few things in this sport, which is full of bad ideas, that is more idiotic or disproven than the idea that horses shouldnt compete as 2 year olds.

I don't have a problem with them competing as 2 year olds. I just want them to run tbred distances.

the_fat_man 07-18-2010 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 670869)
Guys, Charlestown runs 15 4.5f races every week.

Doubtful anyone other than the Sartinistas is playing this track.

Is this a 2 turn race at CT?

BUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHH

dalakhani 07-18-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 670883)
Doubtful anyone other than the Sartinistas is playing this track.

Is this a 2 turn race at CT?

BUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHH

Almost. They start them from the chute. Its an interesting niche though.

They have some nice purses and they are just going to get bigger now that table games have arrived.

Cannon Shell 07-18-2010 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 670882)
I don't have a problem with them competing as 2 year olds. I just want them to run tbred distances.

Why run them longer than they are ready to go? In april they are ready to go 4 1/2. I have no defense of the 2 furlong races.

10 pnt move up 07-19-2010 10:42 AM

How would you card mdn special races when there are only a handful, and thats not really an exaggeration, of owners buying reasonable priced horses and sending them to socal?

They would ALWAYS run a straight mdn three year old race the first day, then a filly race thurs-fri, and then one each over the weekend. These races would raw well the first week.

You would have your top flight owners, Paulson, Lewis, Harbor View, Moss, etc etc, then the rest would be made up of smaller barn owners who had maybe 5-10 horses but a few decent bred.

Now the big owners are all dead, money dont go to socal anymore. The middle guy is extinct out there.

slotdirt 07-19-2010 10:51 AM

Who doesn't go to Charles Town? I've never been in a Vegas or Atlantic City casino as crowded as that place was last weekend.

RockHardTen1985 07-19-2010 03:40 PM

Rock So Hard, a Rock Hard Ten colt who has worked with Smash, is expected to debut for Baffert and the Summit Racing syndicate on Saturday in the first scheduled straight maiden race of the meet.

cakes44 07-19-2010 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 670879)
I just hope QR doesn't collapse from exhaustion at the sixteenth pole in the Whitney, cakes.

Seems like forever since we've seen him on the track...

Yeah I think Zenyatta has raced like twice or three times as much as QR this year. QR is is like Dominique Wilkins and Zenyatta is like...umm...some other athlete that never competed or faced anyone worth a darn.

Siena 16 07-19-2010 04:09 PM

Delmar 2yo MSW
 
The first Condition Book is without a 2yo MSW. They are saving them for the second half of the meet Book 2

the_fat_man 07-19-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 671096)
Yeah I think Zenyatta has raced like twice or three times as much as QR this year. QR is is like Dominique Wilkins and Zenyatta is like...umm...some other athlete that never competed or faced anyone worth a darn.

Musket Man / Tizway

Dry Martini / Delightful Kiss

You and I Forever / Congressional Page

Yeah

Beating the likes of these is a CAREER for most horses. QR has done it in a matter of 3 races. Wowwwwwwwwwwwwww :rolleyes:

And he's working up a storm too, from what I read.

ELIXIR is Flowingggggggggggggggggggggggggg

Expect big things at the Spahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

cakes44 07-19-2010 04:35 PM

Trust me, I'm not calling QR any kind of monster by comparing him to Z. They both exemplify MANY things that are wrong with horse racing today IMO.


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