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joeydb 07-07-2010 07:37 AM

Obama's DOJ: Whites have no civil rights
 
The above statement is the conclusion that must be drawn if the Department of Justice is selectively prosecuting cases based on the racial identity of the victim.

Excerpt:

"Commissioner Peter Kirsanow asked Adams 'to what extent' the department believes equal treatment before the law applies to all voters.

'That's the problem,' replied Adams. 'They assume Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act doesn't apply to white voters.'"

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=175729

Similar, previous article here:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=173117

As for politics, this is not the smartest move when 61% of your voting support in the last election is Caucasian.

geeker2 07-07-2010 08:34 AM

not to worry...soon we will hear the outcry's from Rev Jesse and Uncle Al as we know they are the champions of civil rights and justice for all.

notyep59 07-07-2010 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 665884)
The above statement is the conclusion that must be drawn if the Department of Justice is selectively prosecuting cases based on the racial identity of the victim.

Excerpt:

"Commissioner Peter Kirsanow asked Adams 'to what extent' the department believes equal treatment before the law applies to all voters.

'That's the problem,' replied Adams. 'They assume Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act doesn't apply to white voters.'"

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=175729

Similar, previous article here:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=173117

As for politics, this is not the smartest move when 61% of your voting support in the last election is Caucasian.

Is the Worldnetdaily any kin to the World News Daily?? After one read of each, I think I am smart enough never to read either again, and definitely not quote anything from them. If I need information on how to get accepted to Glen Beck's online university or need to hear more of how Pat Buchanan thinks Richard Steele is right, I"ll try to find Fox news on tv. What a joke!

geeker2 07-07-2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyep59 (Post 665932)
Is the Worldnetdaily any kin to the World News Daily?? After one read of each, I think I am smart enough never to read either again, and definitely not quote anything from them. If I need information on how to get accepted to Glen Beck's online university or need to hear more of how Pat Buchanan thinks Richard Steele is right, I"ll try to find Fox news on tv. What a joke!


don't forget the NYT


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/07/us/07rights.html

joeydb 07-07-2010 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyep59 (Post 665932)
Is the Worldnetdaily any kin to the World News Daily?? After one read of each, I think I am smart enough never to read either again, and definitely not quote anything from them. If I need information on how to get accepted to Glen Beck's online university or need to hear more of how Pat Buchanan thinks Richard Steele is right, I"ll try to find Fox news on tv. What a joke!

OK, the story does appear in many places, how about the Associated Press:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...BEi4QD9GMHAS82

Excerpt: He wrote that some people see selective enforcement of civil rights laws "as a backdoor way to achieve reparations for slavery and discrimination. If the American public won't tolerate monetary reparations, which they won't, then a one-way approach to civil rights laws is seen as the next best alternative."

"This aggressive one-way approach toward the civil rights laws is central to understanding why the voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party was dismissed by the Obama Justice Department," he wrote.


By the way, I think you mean Michael Steele. Richard Steele used to be a boxing referee -- he had a few controversial TKO calls.

notyep59 07-07-2010 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 665939)
OK, the story does appear in many places, how about the Associated Press:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...BEi4QD9GMHAS82

Excerpt: He wrote that some people see selective enforcement of civil rights laws "as a backdoor way to achieve reparations for slavery and discrimination. If the American public won't tolerate monetary reparations, which they won't, then a one-way approach to civil rights laws is seen as the next best alternative."

"This aggressive one-way approach toward the civil rights laws is central to understanding why the voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party was dismissed by the Obama Justice Department," he wrote.




By the way, I think you mean Michael Steele. Richard Steele used to be a boxing referee -- he had a few controversial TKO calls.

You are right, Michael Steele.

Those were much better articles that you and Geeker sent this time. I will say, though, that i don't recall reading once in that first one, anything about these people being appointed by the Bush administration.

You guys seem like alright guys to me and I was always told not to argue about politics or religion, so I will save the rest of my wittyness for "nascar".
He is much more fun to argue with!

geeker2 07-07-2010 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyep59 (Post 665961)
You are right, Michael Steele.

Those were much better articles that you and Geeker sent this time. I will say, though, that i don't recall reading once in that first one, anything about these people being appointed by the Bush administration.

You guys seem like alright guys to me and I was always told not to argue about politics or religion, so I will save the rest of my wittyness for "nascar".
He is much more fun to argue with!

I can use Clyde as a character witness if necessary :p

notyep59 07-07-2010 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 665963)
I can use Clyde as a character witness if necessary :p

Sorry about that! It's gotta be a million to one that that is the first time anyone has said, or written, or thought, that line!!
Lets hope Joey is an alright guy then.

geeker2 07-07-2010 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyep59 (Post 665968)
Sorry about that! It's gotta be a million to one that that is the first time anyone has said, or written, or thought, that line!!
Lets hope Joey is an alright guy then.

;)
:tro:

clyde 07-07-2010 12:42 PM

NoType..Ralph is Debbie and Franny's FetchBoy.




Leave him alone.

Nascar1966 07-07-2010 12:51 PM

In today's society it is a shame that we have to deal racism. Why cant people treat each other with dignity and respect that they deserve. Are we expecting any form from O'Dumbass? If you are hate to disappoint you but its not happening. Almost forgot to say that respect also has to be earned. O'Dumbass hasn't earned my respect. Sorry to disappoint all you O'Dumbass @ss kissers.

joeydb 07-07-2010 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyep59 (Post 665968)
Sorry about that! It's gotta be a million to one that that is the first time anyone has said, or written, or thought, that line!!
Lets hope Joey is an alright guy then.

Hey, I try to be... I don't take anything personal on these pages and I find it interesting to discuss the issues that are relevant today. And I have learned a few things from people with different points of view, so it's all good. :)

clyde 07-07-2010 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 665993)
In today's society it is a shame that we have to deal racism. Why cant people treat each other with dignity and respect that they deserve. Are we expecting any form from O'Dumbass? If you are hate to disappoint you but its not happening.

Because NASCAR fans have hoof n' mouth.

notyep59 07-07-2010 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 665993)
In today's society it is a shame that we have to deal racism. Why cant people treat each other with dignity and respect that they deserve. Are we expecting any form from O'Dumbass? If you are hate to disappoint you but its not happening.

PLEASE, I gots to know, did somebody laugh when you first called him "O' dumbass"???? and the line before you call him that, you talk about treating people with dignity and respect?? and I'm ready for your comeback this time, so make it something different from "well, if you don't like it you can put me on ignore."

Danzig 07-07-2010 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 665993)
In today's society it is a shame that we have to deal racism. Why cant people treat each other with dignity and respect that they deserve. Are we expecting any form from O'Dumbass? If you are hate to disappoint you but its not happening.


!!!!!

Nascar1966 07-07-2010 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyep59 (Post 666061)
PLEASE, I gots to know, did somebody laugh when you first called him "O' dumbass"???? and the line before you call him that, you talk about treating people with dignity and respect?? and I'm ready for your comeback this time, so make it something different from "well, if you don't like it you can put me on ignore."

Im not going to respect O'Dumbass because he hasn't earned my respect.

ateamstupid 07-07-2010 10:04 PM

Putting all of Nascar's delectable hypocrisy aside, O'Dumbass just doesn't make much sense comedically. Why the apostrophe? He's not Irish. And it's not as if "dumbass" rhymes with or looks like "bama." Reminds me of this every time I see it.

hi_im_god 07-07-2010 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 666298)
Putting all of Nascar's delectable hypocrisy aside, O'Dumbass just doesn't make much sense comedically. Why the apostrophe? He's not Irish. And it's not as if "dumbass" rhymes with or looks like "bama." Reminds me of this every time I see it.

i think you're missing the deeper comedy.

it's nascar. calling someone else a dumbass.

clyde 07-07-2010 10:39 PM

HiG...IAmStupid would miss the irony in LeMoi James saying ..''I'm a very humble person."


Which he did say.

Nascar1966 07-07-2010 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 666298)
Putting all of Nascar's delectable hypocrisy aside, O'Dumbass just doesn't make much sense comedically. Why the apostrophe? He's not Irish. And it's not as if "dumbass" rhymes with or looks like "bama." Reminds me of this every time I see it.

Thank you for expressing your opinion. I hope you enjoy the rest of the week. Im guessing your thinking O'Dumbass is doing a decent job as President? Besides that you should know by now I could care less what the people at this website think of me. I only have to keep two people happy: my wife and son. If anyone doesn't like it put me on the ignore list.

ateamstupid 07-07-2010 10:43 PM

Mort, if you're trying to pick a fight with me, disdain of Queen James ain't the subject to choose.

clyde 07-07-2010 10:46 PM

OK.



The Yankees could never make it if the ML was under NFL salary rules.

ateamstupid 07-07-2010 10:48 PM

I agree.

:D

clyde 07-07-2010 10:50 PM

Phooey.




Well, who do you like?

ateamstupid 07-07-2010 10:51 PM

Uncly.

clyde 07-07-2010 10:57 PM

I hate you.

ateamstupid 07-07-2010 11:43 PM

I guess I have to find somewhere else to watch the charity telebron.

clyde 07-08-2010 12:04 AM

Just skip it...I don't follow anything about this nonsense.


LeMoi will probably appear on crutches and then spend the night dancing.

clyde 07-08-2010 12:04 AM

Oh..the TeleBron was a good one...fine work.

Rupert Pupkin 07-08-2010 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyep59 (Post 665932)
Is the Worldnetdaily any kin to the World News Daily?? After one read of each, I think I am smart enough never to read either again, and definitely not quote anything from them. If I need information on how to get accepted to Glen Beck's online university or need to hear more of how Pat Buchanan thinks Richard Steele is right, I"ll try to find Fox news on tv. What a joke!

You haven't come up with any sort of defense for Obama, Holder and the DOJ. You mentioned that World Net Daily is not a good source but that is irrelevant since the facts of this story are not in dispute.

I don't know how you can defend Holder on this one. If you like a DOJ that allows this type of behavior and only prosecutes certain races, then I don't know what to say.

I'm still not sure what your position is on this case. Are you saying that you approve of the way the Department of Justice handled this case?

joeydb 07-08-2010 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 666342)
You haven't come up with any sort of defense for Obama, Holder and the DOJ. You mentioned that World Net Daily is not a good source but that is irrelevant since the facts of this story are not in dispute.

I don't know how you can defend Holder on this one. If you like a DOJ that allows this type of behavior and only prosecutes certain races, then I don't know what to say.

I'm still not sure what your position is on this case. Are you saying that you approve of the way the Department of Justice handled this case?

I love it when logic is used in a discussion -- it's very refreshing.

I've been waiting to see who's going to defend Holder on this, and the silence is deafening, as it should be, since there is no valid defense for this. The government is overtly acting in a racist manner. Period.

This even defies the invalid rules many proponents have put forward about discrimination, citing that civil rights are only violated when the responsible party "has power over you". This is to ensure a one-way enforcement like what we are now seeing. A white guy gets mugged at gunpoint in a black neighborhood, and somehow that's not a hate crime or a civil rights violation, but the reverse would be. This is the fantasy world of law enforcement they actively try to sustain. But now, since the president is half African American, he arguably "has power over" the disenfranchised caucasian litigants.

notyep59 07-08-2010 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 666342)
You haven't come up with any sort of defense for Obama, Holder and the DOJ. You mentioned that World Net Daily is not a good source but that is irrelevant since the facts of this story are not in dispute.

I don't know how you can defend Holder on this one. If you like a DOJ that allows this type of behavior and only prosecutes certain races, then I don't know what to say.

I'm still not sure what your position is on this case. Are you saying that you approve of the way the Department of Justice handled this case?

I'm not defending anyone in this case and I have NO idea of what the facts are. Should I pretend to, like some others here might?? All I know is that you folks are upset with some group that was appointed by the Bush administration, and evidently their views changed since we have a black president. That's my simple position on this case, and if I'm wrong I will suggest that they string Holder (whoever he is) up by his sack and charge admission. My biggest question from all of this is, how is this Obama's fault?

notyep59 07-08-2010 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 (Post 666308)
Thank you for expressing your opinion. I hope you enjoy the rest of the week. Im guessing your thinking O'Dumbass is doing a decent job as President? Besides that you should know by now I could care less what the people at this website think of me. I only have to keep two people happy: my wife and son. If anyone doesn't like it put me on the ignore list.

you should just copy and paste this as your response to everything, and hooray for your wife and son!!

Danzig 07-08-2010 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyep59 (Post 666348)
I'm not defending anyone in this case and I have NO idea of what the facts are. Should I pretend to, like some others here might?? All I know is that you folks are upset with some group that was appointed by the Bush administration, and evidently their views changed since we have a black president. That's my simple position on this case, and if I'm wrong I will suggest that they string Holder (whoever he is) up by his sack and charge admission. My biggest question from all of this is, how is this Obama's fault?


he's the attorney general of the united states.

notyep59 07-08-2010 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 666351)
he's the attorney general of the united states.

Thank you, Danzig. If I had to name an attorney general in the history of the U.S., I could only name two, Kennedy and Reno. You probably will never see me on "Jeopardy".

Danzig 07-08-2010 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyep59 (Post 666356)
Thank you, Danzig. If I had to name an attorney general in the history of the U.S., I could only name two, Kennedy and Reno. You probably will never see me on "Jeopardy".


lol
my kids keep trying to get me on there...i say no, knowing my luck the categories would be opera, ballet, broadway musicals....


my dad had an encounter way back when with eric holder, when he was an up and coming lawyer and my dad was a policeman in d.c. dad put the youngster in his place! lol

joeydb 07-08-2010 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 666359)
lol
my kids keep trying to get me on there...i say no, knowing my luck the categories would be opera, ballet, broadway musicals....


my dad had an encounter way back when with eric holder, when he was an up and coming lawyer and my dad was a policeman in d.c. dad put the youngster in his place! lol

Can we get your dad to take over the Justice Department?

Danzig 07-08-2010 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 666361)
Can we get your dad to take over the Justice Department?

lol
yeah, i don't see that happening...he's semi-retired, living on a golf course. works for them a few days a week, golfs for free the rest of the time.

dad had arrested a guy. holder hollered for a dismissal as soon as dad said on the witness stand he had talked to the fellow under arrest a bit before reading his rights. as dad said, and the judge agreed with him and not holder, you can talk to a suspect about things without mirandizing them-as long as the questioning is not about what you just arrested them for. holder thought he was sooo smart, lol. oops. case continued, fellow went to jail. young, gung ho lawyers...

Nascar1966 07-08-2010 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyep59 (Post 666349)
you should just copy and paste this as your response to everything, and hooray for your wife and son!!

Thank for giving my wife and son a hooray.

:)

Rupert Pupkin 07-08-2010 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyep59 (Post 666348)
I'm not defending anyone in this case and I have NO idea of what the facts are. Should I pretend to, like some others here might?? All I know is that you folks are upset with some group that was appointed by the Bush administration, and evidently their views changed since we have a black president. That's my simple position on this case, and if I'm wrong I will suggest that they string Holder (whoever he is) up by his sack and charge admission. My biggest question from all of this is, how is this Obama's fault?

So why are you even responding to the thread if you don't know the facts of the case? The facts of the case are not in dispute. Bartle Bull, a longtime civil rights activist and aide to Bobby Kennedy witnessed the whole thing. He was working at the polling place where the incident took place. He said it was the worst case of voter intimidation he had ever seen. He said it was worse than anything he had seen in the south in the 1960s.

The Department of Justice brought charges against the guys who were intimidating voters. It was a slam dunk case. But then inexplicably, the Obama appointees at the DOJ, forced the DOJ lawyers to drop the case. Eric Holder is the AG. He is the head of the DOJ. He was appointed by Obama and he forced the DOJ lawyers to drop this case. That is what the big deal is.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...cube_position1


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