Top 5 public Handicappers....
 

Boring Monday afternoon, figured it was time for a new Top 5 list. This list is ment to be totally serious, I put a lot of work into this.

1. Me- My brief stint as a blogger has to put me at #1 on this list. A long history of big scores, and devastatingly good insight have helped me secure this spot.

2. Doug- The Man, the myth, the legend.... Simply put, Doug is one of the best. If you dont believe me, YAHOO HIM.

3. Andy- The Face of NYRA, he takes strong stands and is very bold in his handicapping. At this rate, someday he could take the top spot from me.

4. Steve- This website says it all, his show is also great. I wanted to put Steve #1, but on a personal note he has darted me at least 6 times, so I just could not.

5. Nick Tammaro- His spot on capital otb website says it all. Virtual Nick is classic, If I ever want to see his face or hear his voice I go.... Everytime I ask him his opinion on a race he sends me there, he needs the "hits" so everyone reading this should go check it out.

classic stuff :tro:

As far as I'm concerned, the list starts and stops at #1.

Nobody will ever duplicate the feat of building your own basement OTB and going 9 for 9 on the first day.

The basment otb stuff is crap, take the adresses and mapquest it, I used to live 2 min walking distance from otb. Anyone in my area can tell you, you guys just all hated me back then.

The football picks are what separate RHT from the rest of the pack. Who cares about Aqu when you can wager on the Independence Bowl.

You mean, you really really did not build your own OTB??

What next? You didn't really go 9 for 9?????

I'm so naive!

He was the goose that laid the golden egg this past bowl season.

I sucked, I am man enough to admit it. I have gone 9-9, but not like 9 winners on top... I hit both pick 4's at Aqueduct one day and had a win bet in the first, maybe you cant consider that 9-9.

Can we please stick to discussing the list?

what else is there to discuss? great list.

Thanks, I try.

PG,
Can you ask Doug a question for me? If not for the presence of Zenyatta, how many of these California Grade I stakes would be in serious trouble with having their grading lowered because of the quality of the rest of he field. I ask because Doug's breakdown of the fields would interest many of us. Great list! Thanks in advance.

Ill copy past this to his FB now.

Jimmy The Hat says he is the best. Just ask him.

Joseph, thank you for the early Father's Day gift becuase that's what this list is. Pure Gold! And thanks to Steve for reinstating you........again. Without him this gem wouldn't be possible.

As far as the list goes, Congrats to the guys who made it. Maybe if you guys strive hard enough, one of you can dethrone the champ and be number 1 next year or moth or week or whenever the new rankings take place.

Side note for you Joseph, Probably shouldn't have brought up the brief (it was probably even briefer than that) stint as a blogger :eek:. But congratulations on naming yourself number one as you truely are the best. I'm sure Brad Thomas is sitting at a computer utterly devestated somewhere.

Though in all fairness to myself, I'm only about a length combined away from having a positive ROI thanks to more than a couple nasty beats at 5-1 and 6-1, I thought surely my "Value Play" ROI of $1.27 through the first six weeks of the Arlington meet would qualify me for at least 5th here.

Hopefully this list gets revisited sometime later this summer when I will, fingers crossed, get a chance to go toe to toe with the champ.

Brian, if this list was top 7, you would be in. You did cross my mind for 5th, but you dont have Virtual Brian, fully equipped with sound.

Byk's charity knows know bounds. The least you could do would be to put him at number 2, but you couldn't let your man-crush of Doug be affected....shame.

I love Steve, and even though he has darted me at least 6 times, he has also let me back. Its just hard to get past the memorys of all those times I attempted to log in, and I was brought to that horrible YOUR GONE PAGE. Like I said a while back, I live FEARING THE DART.

Here is Dougs response....

I think it's a tricky question because the graded stakes committee is capable of doing surprising things without logic from time to time. I suppose the Clement Hirsch at Del Mar .. it was a Grade 2 when Zenyatta beat Model two years ago - it was raised to Grade 1 status last year and Zenyatta beat ...

I guess he has more....

a lot of the Grade 1 races out West in which Zenyatta has beaten weak competition in have GREAT history to them. They are the kind of races that can survive a few years of mediocre winners and still hold status even if Zenyatta wasn't around to clown the nags

I'm shocked that RHT did not consider this guy. Perhaps RHT did, but then he realized that it would be intellectually dishonest not to put him in the top spot, so he didn't even bother mentioning him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvXHVMHdCxg

Tell DougS we miss his trivia questions and lists. I hope he recovers from whatever ails him.

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Fine work, Joe... especially the part about Yahoo-ing Doug!

Ever thought of working for Vince McMahon???
 

I had a hernia repair earlier today, this thread & you back here will make my 3 weeks recovering much more entertaining ;) you need your own forum "room" here......one thing you are not Joe, is boring! :D

He darted you one time and with my pleading, you were back before you knew you were even gone!

I am easily your biggest fan. DT is much better off with you than without.

My top whatever favorite things about PG, in absolutely no particular order.

1. 1985
2. Your ability to change your mind more often that Imelda Marcos in her shoe barn.
3. Your ability to hex anything.
4. The way you rile up people is true genius.
5. The way you suck up to people that you know are better at this stuff than you.
6. Your dogged persistence to stay around.
7. Your obsession with GC.
8. How your obsession with GC always gave you away when you came on here with yet another name.

I'm sure there's lots more too.

What makes you think we don't now?

Clearly no one is better then me, hence the #1 ranking on this list. My obsession is changing a bit. I love RHT as a sire, I cought him early on with turf horses, before anyone really knew. Im also really loving Candy Ride, check out HollyWood Race 5 yesterday... I had a small win bet.

Ill remember this comment.

;)

cool
 

This might be your best work ever.....which is high praise indeed.
THIS is why it is good to have you back. Fine work.

I've always enjoyed his utter and complete confidence in every stand he takes. He is 100% sure about Giant Moon or Nobiz Like Showbiz or whomever the horse of the minute happens to be. He goes around proclaiming that the horse can't lose....etc.

Then the horse loses.

He then goes on nearly every single thread where he touted the horse and says something akin to "What can I say, I was wrong. I admit it."

That level of self-awareness lasts....oh....about ten minutes and later that same day, he has utter and complete confidence about some other horse. You gotta love it.

How exactly was that horse's pedigree relevant? It was his 20th lifetime start and his 13th consecutive grass race.

Why ask why?

Just trying to learn from the master.

Dude, don't you keep track of how sire's progeny run in their 13th grass race? That's key info.
Candy Ride's are always hot in spots with 12 turf races under 'em. Everybody knows that.

Can we have other forum members submit their list of top 5 handicappers??? Kinda like our own version of the BCS??? How about a minimum of 1000 posts to be eligible to submit a list??? (This should be funny.) :D

Love this idea. Even though I don't have the thousand posts to get me a vote in this "DTS" poll, if I did -- and just based on what I personally have witnessed on "Selections" threads -- my Number One is a young, tooth-chipper that goes by the name of Rootdog1. All I ever see on those threads is that guy cashing Pick-4 tickets! Even his beats seem to be the horse's fault and not faulty handicapping on his part.

OK.

1. Rock Hard Ten 1985
2. Point Given 1985
3. JCS24385759
4. Can I at please at least Read 1985
5. Sterling.

You forgot hrfan, that dude was an awesome handicapper.