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Kasept 06-09-2010 07:39 AM

6/9: Belmont Park (2nd-9th; $930k C/O)
 
BELMONT PARK


POST-SCRATCHES


2nd: NYB-MSW, 3+, 6f (P4, P3, DD)

State-bred maidens slightly notable for sibs including debuting Fortitude (full to Benlayla and half to Laylaben who runs in today's 5th) and Brunelli (half to solid Bond SW Tomassi)..

Most Likely: #3 Fight for V L T's 6-5 WON ($3.20)
Best Value: #4 Fortitude 5-1 4th
Next Best: #6 Brunelli 5-2 6th


3rd: OC/N3X, 3+, 8.5f-T (P3, DD)

$57k purse and a G3 (or overnight at least) quality field..

Most Likely: #5 Brother Nick 9-5 6th
Next Best: #1e Tagg entry 3-1 WON/4th ($6.60)
Best Value: #2 Premium Gold 15-1 7th


4th: MDN CLM, 3+, 6f-T (P6, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #1 Montana Knight 5-2 2nd
Next Best: #4 Macho Joe 2-1 WON ($5.20)
Best Value: #6 Scorper 4-1 3rd


5th: NYB-ALW/N1X, F&M-3+, 1m (G/S, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #7 Under the Rainbow 2-1 6th
Next Best: #6 Vicarious 7-2 3rd
Exotics Use: #1 Laylaben 5-2 4th


<$50 P4 Play:

2: 3
3: 1-2-3-5
4: 1-4-6
5: 1-4-6-7

1x4x3x4 = $48


6th: NYB-MDN CLM, 3+, 6f-IT (P4, P3, DD)

Best Value: #3 Tudor King 10-1 4th
Most Likely: #6 Ponte Vecchio 5-2 8th
Next Best: #7 Thundering Roar 5-1 3rd
Exotics Use: #9 Showme Zealous 8-1 5th


7th: NYB-MSW, 3+, 1m-T (P3, DD)

Brutally tough group and perhaps the most important race in the sequence; Will make or break many a ticket..

Most Likely: #6 Adirondack Warrior 3-1 6th
Best Value: #1e Sciacca entry 8-1 5th/8th
Next Best: #5 Ready for Ryan 5-1 10th
Exotics Use: #3 Left Tee 15-1 3rd


8th: OC/N3X, 3+, 6.5f (DD)

Confusing, short field does modest P6 players no good as consortiums will "buy" the race and the rest of us have to choose carefully. No definitive scenario to use as a premise, while unreliable Contessa and dubious R. Rodriguez add extra burden to your decision-making process. Tough call..

Most Likely: #1 Starforaday 2-1 WON ($10.80)
Next Best: #2 West Coast Flier 9-5 5th
Best Value: #4 Law Enforcement 10-1 2nd


9th: CLM/N2L, F&M-3, 6f OFF THE TURF (Super)

Most Likely: #12 Aquit 2-1 2nd
Best Value: #9 Green Arrows 20-1 7th
Next Best: #11 Night Spirit 4-1 WON ($15.80)
Super Add: #3 Treat Her Right 9-2 3rd


<$100 P6 Play:

4: 1-4
5: 7
6: 3-6-7
7: 1-6
8: 1-2-4-5
9: 12

2x1x3x2x4x1 = 48 x $2 = $96


<$50 P4 Play:

6: 3-6-7
7: 1-3-5-6
8: 1-2-4-5
9: 12

3x4x4x1 = $48


Good luck!
Steve

Kasept 06-09-2010 08:44 AM

JON WHITE'S <$150 P6 PLAY

4: 1-2-4
5: 1-6-7
6: 6-10
7: 2
8: 2
9: 3-7-10-11

3x3x2x1x1x4 = 72 x $2 = $144

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-09-2010 09:50 AM

gl steve and all dters .. live radar link

http://www.wunderground.com/radar/ra...=9999&smooth=0

Kasept 06-09-2010 10:00 AM

BEL SCR/CHG'S


4TH

8 Augusta Dude Early
9 Maxahme Early


5TH

2 Mariah Scary Early NO SUPERFECTA


6TH

1A Spencerific Early
12 Centripital Early


9TH

2 Casa Di Vino Early
7 Z Cats Meow Early
8 Justinline Early
10 Ghoul Early

Scav 06-09-2010 10:03 AM

Interesting scratch in the 5th

Kasept 06-09-2010 10:31 AM

With 9TH coming OFF TURF, here are the current SCR'S...

2 Casa Di Vino Early
7 Z Cats Meow Early
8 Justinline Early
10 Ghoul Early

a_rookie 06-09-2010 10:41 AM

R9 #8 justinline added to the SCRs.

FATPIANO 06-09-2010 11:45 AM

  1. 4
  2. 6/7
  3. 7
  4. 5
  5. 2
  6. 3/12

lemoncrush 06-09-2010 01:01 PM

Budget PK 6

4) 1,4
5) 7
6) 3,6,7
7) 5,6,7
8) 2
9) 12

$36!

Good luck to everyone playing today.

RockHardTen1985 06-09-2010 01:03 PM

Dont just toss the Candy Ride here... I think he has a chance, 11-1 right now.

docicu3 06-09-2010 01:24 PM

Pick 6 wild shot

1,4
4,6,7
3,6,7
1,6
1,2,4,5
12 $288

GL All

YouBet has final Pool at 3,301,873 for the Pick 6. So how do they get an odd number on a base 2 dollar bet. I don't know why you would but you probably could make your base bet an odd number > than 2 dollars?? Is that possible?

Scav 06-09-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docicu3 (Post 655869)
Pick 6 wild shot

1,4
4,6,7
3,6,7
1,6
1,2,4,5
12 $288

GL All

YouBet has final Pool at 3,301,873 for the Pick 6. So how do they get an odd number on a base 2 dollar bet. I don't know why you would but you probably could make your base bet an odd number > than 2 dollars?? Is that possible?

I think that number is with the takeout already out, but don't quote me on that

Scav 06-09-2010 01:37 PM

4,232,368 total pool

MaTH716 06-09-2010 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 655877)
4,232,368 total pool

Wow, I guess all those people who were going to go to Belmont on Sunday ended up taking today off.

ateamstupid 06-09-2010 01:53 PM

Kaboom.

gales0678 06-09-2010 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 655882)
Wow, I guess all those people who were going to go to Belmont on Sunday ended up taking today off.



matt , the major syndicate $$$ would have been in on sunday , if you don't think it wouldn't have been in you are dead wrong

the little guy who could only played on sunday got screwed if he is working today and can't get down a play

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-09-2010 01:57 PM

gtfoh..eeee awwwwh

XIIPointStables 06-09-2010 01:57 PM

another carryover????????

blackthroatedwind 06-09-2010 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 655889)

the little guy who could only played on sunday got screwed if he is working today and can't get down a play


This is idiotic even for you.

hockey2315 06-09-2010 01:58 PM

This thing couldn't carry unless something REALLY weird were to happen.

ndjake 06-09-2010 01:59 PM

nothing like a stretch duel between the two longest shots in the race to blow up 90% of the p 6 tickets.

MaTH716 06-09-2010 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 655889)
matt , the major syndicate $$$ would have been in on sunday , if you don't think it wouldn't have been in you are dead wrong

the little guy who could only played on sunday got screwed if he is working today and can't get down a play

Marty, little guys (and I consider myself one) just don't have the budget to play pick 6's. Period. And guess what, if for some reason they scraped up enough cash to maybe take a shot, they are/would be most likely dead after that race (just like the majority of the free world are.).

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-09-2010 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 655889)
matt , the major syndicate $$$ would have been in on sunday , if you don't think it wouldn't have been in you are dead wrong

the little guy who could only played on sunday got screwed if he is working today and can't get down a play

he needs a better job or any online acct.. and he still would be out..

MISTERGEE 06-09-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndjake (Post 655896)
nothing like a stretch duel between the two longest shots in the race to blow up 90% of the p 6 tickets.

99%

gales0678 06-09-2010 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 655898)
Marty, little guys (and I consider myself one) just don't have the budget to play pick 6's. Period. And guess what, if for some reason they scraped up enough cash to maybe take a shot, they are/would be most likely dead after that race (just like the majority of the free world are.).

the main point of the thread was the track being closed on a sunday and the customer that plays on sunday getting shut out and having to go to another product (monmouth)

the guy that plays sat and sun only , got shut out for 1 day , whether he plays win , place , show , ex's tri's dd's or picks , he is a customer and got shut out

to think that the syndicates who make up the majority of the $4mm in the pick 6 pool wouldn't have been in on sunday is downright ludicrous

gales0678 06-09-2010 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 655903)
he needs a better job or any online acct.. and he still would be out..



yup and he still didn't get to make his $3 show bet parlay on sunday , unless he went to monmouth

MaTH716 06-09-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 655910)
the main point of the thread was the track being closed on a sunday and the customer that plays on sunday getting shut out and having to go to another product (monmouth)

the guy that plays sat and sun only , got shut out for 1 day , whether he plays win , place , show , ex's tri's dd's or picks , he is a customer and got shut out

to think that the syndicates who make up the majority of the $4mm in the pick 6 pool wouldn't have been in on sunday is downright ludicrous

I'm not going back into the subjct again Marty. You believe it was a mistake and are entitled to your opinion. You also believed that they were going to leave alot of money on the table. By the looks of the pool, it doesn't look like they left that much on the table. The people who were going to bet the carryover reguardless when they raced, managed a way to get their bets in wherever they are today.

Scav 06-09-2010 02:22 PM

I'd love to see what the TS.com players pool had, I can't seem to find their tickets on the website. If anyone is to have the horse, that is the type of money you are gonna have to put in, they had 60k to play with

gales0678 06-09-2010 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 655921)
I'm not going back into the subjct again Marty. You believe it was a mistake and are entitled to your opinion. You also believed that they were going to leave alot of money on the table. By the looks of the pool, it doesn't look like they left that much on the table. The people who were going to bet the carryover reguardless when they raced, managed a way to get their bets in wherever they are today.

the pick 6 is the pick 6 , it would have gotten amount big amount either day

you honestly don't believe that even if it was a sunny day today , onsite attendance would have been higher today than sunday , surely you can't?

NTamm1215 06-09-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gales0678 (Post 655926)
the pick 6 is the pick 6 , it would have gotten amount big amount either day

you honestly don't believe that even if it was a sunny day today , onsite attendance would have been higher today than sunday , surely you can't?

I'm trying to figure out why you're continuing this ridiculous and futile crusade. Are you actually trying to say that if they had a card Sunday it wouldn't have included today's races and the small bettor might have enjoyed a better chance in the Pick 6 pool?

NT

ndjake 06-09-2010 02:32 PM

Tom,

Here are the TS.com tickets. Tickets 1 and 2 still alive thru 3 legs all others dead.

Ticket Number 1
$2 Pick-6
# 1,2,3,4,6,7 : #4 Horse Paid $5.20 to WIN
# 1,3,4,5,6,7 : #3 Horse Paid $44.00 to WIN
# 2,3,6,7,,8,9,10
# 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
# 1,2,3,4,5
# 12
$20,160.00

Ticket Number 2
$2 Pick-6
# 1,3,4 : #4 Horse Paid $5.20 to WIN
# 1,3,4,5,6,7 : #3 Horse Paid $44.00 to WIN
# 2,3,6,7,10
# 2,3,4,5,6,7
# 1,2,3,4,5,
# 1,3,5,9,11,12
$32,400.00

Ticket Number 3
$2 Pick-6
# 1,2,3,4 : #4 Horse Paid $5.20 to WIN
# 1,3,4,5,6,7 : #3 Horse Paid $44.00 to WIN
# 1,4,5,11
# 2,3,4,5,6,7
# 1,2,3,4,5
# 12
$5,760.00

Ticket Number 4
$2 Pick-6
# 1,4 : #4 Horse Paid $5.20 to WIN
# 4,6,7
# 8,9
# 2,4,5,7
# 2,3,4,5
# 1,3,5,9
$1,536.00

Ticket Number 5
$2 Pick-6
# 5
# 1,4,6,7
# 3,6,7,10
# 5
# 1,2,3,4,5
# 12
$160.00

Ticket Number 6
$2 Pick-6
# 4 : #4 Horse Paid $5.20 to WIN
# 6
# 2,3,6,7,8,9,10
# 5
# 4
# 12
$14.00

Scav 06-09-2010 02:34 PM

Thank you...They are going to hit it today pretty easily

NTamm1215 06-09-2010 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 655933)
Thank you...They are going to hit it today pretty easily

Now I feel like I need to cheer twice as hard for Sciacca's entry (with Dr. Paul's horse as the straight 1). But I agree, they seemingly have a lock on it.

NT

gales0678 06-09-2010 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 655930)
I'm trying to figure out why you're continuing this ridiculous and futile crusade. Are you actually trying to say that if they had a card Sunday it wouldn't have included today's races and the small bettor might have enjoyed a better chance in the Pick 6 pool?

NT

no the on site attendance would have been higher on sunday than today , even if today was a sunny day

nyra would have had a higher overall handle on sunday over today that's what i am saying

the pick 6 would have had around the same $$$ either day because the syndicate $$$ which probably makes up over 90% of the total pool size would have been there sunday or wednesday

the total handle would have been higher because more people bet on sunday than wed

Scav 06-09-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 655936)
Now I feel like I need to cheer twice as hard for Sciacca's entry (with Dr. Paul's horse as the straight 1). But I agree, they seemingly have a lock on it.

NT

It isn't going to pay what people are thinking. The bigger tickets bought that race because they were 2-3 deep in the first.

Especially if you singled the first leg.

Simon Bray is alive to three singles, he hits and they might as well just talk about that for the next three years

Coach Pants 06-09-2010 02:40 PM

Would you bet your life on that? Like agree to be flown to Iraq and used to diffuse IED's if you're wrong?

Maybe NYRA will test it out if you are up to testing your theory.

MISTERGEE 06-09-2010 02:41 PM

6X5X6 IN LAST 3 LEGS
i guess somebodys hitting it

Coach Pants 06-09-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 655938)
It isn't going to pay what people are thinking. The bigger tickets bought that race because they were 2-3 deep in the first.

Especially if you singled the first leg.

Simon Bray is alive to three singles, he hits and they might as well just talk about that for the next three years

He might have it. Of course he won't actually hit it...he's clown shoes.

NTamm1215 06-09-2010 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 655938)
It isn't going to pay what people are thinking. The bigger tickets bought that race because they were 2-3 deep in the first.

Especially if you singled the first leg.

Simon Bray is alive to three singles, he hits and they might as well just talk about that for the next three years

I completely agree. Three chalks in a row will lead to a payoff that makes the TS Players' Pool a loser. The 5th, the leg of course where I was knocked out, did not have a heavy favorite and only had 6 horses, so reaching deep there was not too difficult for the people who played bigger tickets.

NT

jms62 06-09-2010 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndjake (Post 655931)
Tom,

Here are the TS.com tickets. Tickets 1 and 2 still alive thru 3 legs all others dead.

Ticket Number 1
$2 Pick-6
# 1,2,3,4,6,7 : #4 Horse Paid $5.20 to WIN
# 1,3,4,5,6,7 : #3 Horse Paid $44.00 to WIN
# 2,3,6,7,,8,9,10
# 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
# 1,2,3,4,5
# 12
$20,160.00

Ticket Number 2
$2 Pick-6
# 1,3,4 : #4 Horse Paid $5.20 to WIN
# 1,3,4,5,6,7 : #3 Horse Paid $44.00 to WIN
# 2,3,6,7,10
# 2,3,4,5,6,7
# 1,2,3,4,5,
# 1,3,5,9,11,12
$32,400.00

Ticket Number 3
$2 Pick-6
# 1,2,3,4 : #4 Horse Paid $5.20 to WIN
# 1,3,4,5,6,7 : #3 Horse Paid $44.00 to WIN
# 1,4,5,11
# 2,3,4,5,6,7
# 1,2,3,4,5
# 12
$5,760.00

Ticket Number 4
$2 Pick-6
# 1,4 : #4 Horse Paid $5.20 to WIN
# 4,6,7
# 8,9
# 2,4,5,7
# 2,3,4,5
# 1,3,5,9
$1,536.00

Ticket Number 5
$2 Pick-6
# 5
# 1,4,6,7
# 3,6,7,10
# 5
# 1,2,3,4,5
# 12
$160.00

Ticket Number 6
$2 Pick-6
# 4 : #4 Horse Paid $5.20 to WIN
# 6
# 2,3,6,7,8,9,10
# 5
# 4
# 12
$14.00

What the heck is TS.com.... I type it in and get taken to a transexual dating site.


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