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Rupert Pupkin 06-06-2010 06:37 PM

Shocker: Obama Breaks Another Promise
 
Obama has broken another campaign promise. Back in 2008 when he was running for president, he promised to "strengthen the moratorium on commercial whaling". Now he unexplicably is backing a deal to lift the ban on commercial whaling.

According to the Obama Administration, this will be a good thing for the whales. They are so full of crap it is unbelievable. Every single anti-whaling group is against this proposal.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...rcial-whaling/

GenuineRisk 06-06-2010 10:34 PM

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/...for-a-solution

As usual, the situation is somewhat more complex than the Obama haters want it to be. This is a decent article on it.

Rupert Pupkin 06-06-2010 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 654834)
http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/...for-a-solution

As usual, the situation is somewhat more complex than the Obama haters want it to be. This is a decent article on it.

So you're in favor of ending the international moratorium on whaling? And you are ok with Obama breaking his promise?

I understand the supposed complexities of the situation. But it must not be all that complex because every single anti-whaling group is against ending the ban. How do you explain that? Do you think all these groups are Obama haters?

I'm sure if Bush was the President right now and he wanted to end the whaling ban, you would be talking about how complex the situation is. LOL.

Danzig 06-07-2010 06:10 AM

no doubt in my mind that even if whale numbers were higher than ever, anti-whalers would be against removing a moratorium. they're not exactly who i'd ask to give an unbiased opinion.
as for obama 'breaking a promise', he should never have made that or any promise to begin with. promises are made to be broken-if anyone knows that, a politician does!

brianwspencer 06-07-2010 11:48 AM

As long as it doesn't ruin Whale Wars, I'm okay with whatever they decide.

Danzig 06-07-2010 01:01 PM

What a silly show. Wonder how many millions they spend attacking humans for catching a species of whale that isn't endangered/protected?

Nascar1966 06-07-2010 01:01 PM

O'Dumbass breaking a promise. How many times now has this sorry excuse for a President broken campaign promises?

Rupert Pupkin 06-07-2010 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 654848)
no doubt in my mind that even if whale numbers were higher than ever, anti-whalers would be against removing a moratorium. they're not exactly who i'd ask to give an unbiased opinion.
as for obama 'breaking a promise', he should never have made that or any promise to begin with. promises are made to be broken-if anyone knows that, a politician does!

You are totally missing the point. If there was some type of debate going on about the numbers of the whale population, then we would want an unbiased group's opinion. In this case, there is no debate about that. The Obama Administration has never claimed that the whale population is in good shape. Quite to the contrary, the Obama Administration is saying that we need to protect the whales.

"The Obama administration argues that the new deal will save thousands of whales over the next decade by stopping the three countries from illegally exploiting loopholes in the moratorium."

The point is that Obama is the only one that thinks this will save whales.

Rupert Pupkin 06-07-2010 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 654993)
What a silly show. Wonder how many millions they spend attacking humans for catching a species of whale that isn't endangered/protected?

I believe the whales that the Japanese kill are mainly minke whales. They may not be as endangered as humpback whales, but they are still considered a "threatened species". By the way, Japan wants to start killing humpback whales too.

I guess since they are only a "threatened species" on the endagered species list, that it's fine to kill them. LOL.

"Minkes whales are listed on the endangered species list as a threatened species as there remains only approximately 800,000 minkes in the world. Some Japanese and Russian vessels are still known to hunt minke whales. Minke whales have been protected by international law since 1986."

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_the_min...dangered_whale

"Although it's numbers are not endangered it is on the endangered list as a threatened species, and is protected (since 1986) worldwide by international law."

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

brianwspencer 06-07-2010 08:24 PM

Ok, so is it going to ruin Whale Wars or not, Rupert?

Riot 06-07-2010 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 655153)
Ok, so is it going to ruin Whale Wars or not, Rupert?

Please ... his primary concern is for the life of the whales.

dellinger63 06-07-2010 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 655157)
Please ... his primary concern is for the life of the whales.

Not unless they can vote! Illegal or not.

Riot 06-07-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 655179)
Not unless they can vote! Illegal or not.

:zz: That referred to Rupert, not Obama.

You have Obama on the brain.

Cannon Shell 06-07-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 655153)
Ok, so is it going to ruin Whale Wars or not, Rupert?

I think if it passes then Whale Wars will be ramped up as the environmentalists will be even more whacked out than usual

Hell they might get a sub and torpedo the whaling ships

dellinger63 06-07-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 655184)

You have Obama on the brain.

better that than the membrane.

OK that was a joke :wf

brianwspencer 06-07-2010 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 655187)
I think if it passes then Whale Wars will be ramped up as the environmentalists will be even more whacked out than usual

Hell they might get a sub and torpedo the whaling ships

Awesome. :tro::tro:

Riot 06-07-2010 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 655191)
better that than the membrane.

OK that was a joke :wf

:eek: :mad: :(

Rupert Pupkin 06-07-2010 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 655153)
Ok, so is it going to ruin Whale Wars or not, Rupert?

As long as whales are being killed, I hope Whale Wars stays on the air so the world can see how barbaric these whale hunts are.

Who do the Japanese think they are kidding with that big "reserach" sign on their ships? How stupid do they think people are? Do they honestly think people will think it's ok to kill these whales if they have a sign on their ship that says "research"?

dellinger63 06-07-2010 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 655187)
I think if it passes then Whale Wars will be ramped up as the environmentalists will be even more whacked out than usual

Hell they might get a sub and torpedo the whaling ships


Can the show ship in some whales off the Gaza Strip for sweeps week?

Throw in some Somali pirates, an Iranian battleship? I'd watch that.

Rupert Pupkin 06-07-2010 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 654993)
What a silly show. Wonder how many millions they spend attacking humans for catching a species of whale that isn't endangered/protected?

You probably think it's ok for the Canadians to club baby seals to death since baby seals aren't endangered.

Cannon Shell 06-07-2010 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer (Post 655192)
Awesome. :tro::tro:

I would watch if they got a sub. Then they could have a crossover show showing them torpedoing the crabbing ships from Deadliest Catch

Cannon Shell 06-07-2010 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 655198)
Can the show ship in some whales off the Gaza Strip for sweeps week?

Throw in some Somali pirates, an Iranian battleship? I'd watch that.

I think battleships are out of vogue. maybe a destroyer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_Iranian_Navy

Cannon Shell 06-07-2010 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 655200)
You probably think it's ok for the Canadians to club baby seals to death since baby seals aren't endangered.

If that is where they get Canadian Club, then I am in favor

dellinger63 06-11-2010 10:46 PM

Um there's a HUGE pattern here!

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/US-...6/11/id/361776

At least we'll get the change part in 2yrs, hopefully we'll be able to right the ship and receive forgiveness from our allies.

Thunder Gulch 06-12-2010 08:15 AM

I'm not fan of the current Prez or anything, but breaking campaign promises isn't news. The bottom line is that there are so many people dumb enough to believe anything politicians say that anyone telling the truth has zero shot at election. You have to lie to win, and they all know it. Tell them what they want to hear....Tell them what's in it for them...Tell them how you are going to "reform"...just don't tell anyone what your real agenda is.

dellinger63 06-12-2010 09:40 AM

"President Obama said repeatedly during the health-care debate that people who like their current coverage would be able to keep it. But an early draft of an administration regulation estimates that many employers will be forced to change their health plans under the new law."

"What we are getting here is a clear indication that most plans will have to change," said James Gelfand, health policy director for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. "From an employer's point of view, that's a bad thing. These changes, whether or not they're good for consumers, are most certainly accompanied by a cost."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines

Coach Pants 06-12-2010 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 656910)
"President Obama said repeatedly during the health-care debate that people who like their current coverage would be able to keep it. But an early draft of an administration regulation estimates that many employers will be forced to change their health plans under the new law."

"What we are getting here is a clear indication that most plans will have to change," said James Gelfand, health policy director for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. "From an employer's point of view, that's a bad thing. These changes, whether or not they're good for consumers, are most certainly accompanied by a cost."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines

What Obama said was technically true. What he conveniently left out is the old plans would likely have a tremendous increase in premium.

He's a douche politician.

dellinger63 06-12-2010 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 656913)
What Obama said was technically true. What he conveniently left out is the old plans would likely have a tremendous increase in premium.

He's a douche politician.

I thought his entire reasoning for this plan was health care costs would decrease because we wouldn't be sharing the costs of uninsured ER visits and hospital stays?


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