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Merlinsky 06-05-2010 12:30 PM

Belmont coverage
 
They were running the Secretariat footage on ESPN and I got chills all over again. That never ever ever gets old. I liked seeing the movie dopplegangers and hearing from Penny Chenery. I gotta say, one of the things I enjoy every year is a certain level of Secretariat-apalooza when they cover the Belmont. It was also fun to see Billy Turner.

Got an earful of a familiar refrain earlier with Lukas, Zito, and Baffet discussing the TC and changing it. Zito and Baffert of course are 'no dice' and we all know about Lukas' thoughts. Penny was very diplomatic about it. I wanted to ask a couple of the guys at the desk if they've gotten into the sherry again. Sorry Randy, you're just wrong. Angel didn't seem to like it.

TheSpyder 06-05-2010 12:46 PM

Andy Serling...the new ESPN commentator.

Merlinsky 06-05-2010 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder (Post 654371)
Andy Serling...the new ESPN commentator.

He definitely classed it up. ;) They need to get Monsieur Byk in there so he and Andy can get into it. Talk about good television.

In other news, Eightyfiveinafifty actually stayed on the track during the Woody Stephens. Forget betting on D'Funnybone, if you could've put some money down on this, you'd have made a good bit of change. Sounded like everybody, including the trainer, was waiting to see if he would bolt again.

ateamstupid 06-05-2010 01:46 PM

They do a good job, but please for the love of god stop getting so cute with the in-race camera angles. The simple pan shot more than suffices, people.

justindew 06-05-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 654385)
They do a good job, but please for the love of god stop getting so cute with the in-race camera angles. The simple pan shot more than suffices, people.

I try to give the network/ESPN coverage a break, and actually like the odd camera angles. But is there anything dumber than this "Belmont Stakes Jockeys With a Win Today" chart that they keep showing?

foregos nuts 06-05-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder (Post 654371)
Andy Serling...the new ESPN commentator.

Lets get rid of Hank Goldberg. He couldn't pick his mother out of a room full of palestinians!

Merlinsky 06-05-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 654385)
They do a good job, but please for the love of god stop getting so cute with the in-race camera angles. The simple pan shot more than suffices, people.

I was a little frustrated when we got a shot of the assistant starters instead of the break in one race, then the horses' backsides for an extended period of time. Call me crazy, I like to see the front of a horse in the lead.

I just heard that Dizney is donating a portion of First Dude's money for the rest of his career to Grayson-Jockey Club Research Foundation to combat laminitis. Now God help us, Sarah Palin has arrived at Belmont to watch FD run. :(

Left Bank 06-05-2010 04:39 PM

How the hell are we supposed to watch the Manhattan?

Sightseek 06-05-2010 04:40 PM

Ridiculous.

DaTruth 06-05-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 654422)
How the hell are we supposed to watch the Manhattan?

I guess they think the deli bit is more interesting.

Port Conway Lane 06-05-2010 04:41 PM

Morons go to a commercial

Arletta 06-05-2010 04:43 PM

I think they could at least wait to black it out until AFTER the race before the Belmont is over.. Jeesh :mad:

rpncaine 06-05-2010 04:44 PM

If they aren't gonna show the races, then why black it out at all?

DaTruth 06-05-2010 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rpncaine (Post 654437)
If they aren't gonna show the races, then why black it out at all?

To torment us.

Left Bank 06-05-2010 04:45 PM

Steve,since you are part of the media and probably have some kind of connections,I hope you can address ABC not showing the Manhattan with them.

Arletta 06-05-2010 04:46 PM

Yet another bomb wins.. Winchester.. Pays $44.00 :wf

-BT- 06-05-2010 04:46 PM

brick!


-bt-

Merlinsky 06-05-2010 04:52 PM

Thoroughbred Times put the video of the race up: http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/uti...4BED10_771.f4v (I said video, but I'm only getting audio after I clicked on it...anybody else having that problem?)

westcoastinvader 06-05-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 654422)
How the hell are we supposed to watch the Manhattan?


Not sure in ABC showed it, but Martin Garcia brought home the Acorn winner for $81.00.

He's collected some nice wins this year.

I had the Harry Caray sandwich in he deli where he used to work at lunch today.

booner 06-05-2010 05:31 PM

They just cut off "Empire State of Mind" to go to commercial.......

Merlinsky 06-05-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by booner (Post 654484)
They just cut off "Empire State of Mind" to go to commercial.......

Which ranks as a highlight for ABC I think. Put it on the reel. Whatever the criticism of racing coverage on tv, they didn't force us to listen to this in its entirety.

Cannon Shell 06-05-2010 05:55 PM

It is always nice when they show the start of the race from ground level, leaving he viewer with absolutely no idea what is happening. Please tell me that this is "because we need to attract the casual fan and they love to have no idea of what is going on"...

If you are going to show the horses from the satillite view, do a better job of identifing them.

Or better yet just show the pan shot, you know the one where people can actually tell what is happening. You know like they do in every other sport....

ateamstupid 06-05-2010 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 654490)
Which ranks as a highlight for ABC I think. Put it on the reel. Whatever the criticism of racing coverage on tv, they didn't force us to listen to this in its entirety.

OMG, let it go. New Yorkers under 80 loved it.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-05-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by booner (Post 654484)
They just cut off "Empire State of Mind" to go to commercial.......

no shiet..wtf

Merlinsky 06-05-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 654520)
OMG, let it go. New Yorkers under 80 loved it.

Under an IQ of 80, maybe.

ateamstupid 06-05-2010 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 654531)
Under the IQ of 80, maybe.

Yeah you're really in touch.

Left Bank 06-05-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 654513)
It is always nice when they show the start of the race from ground level, leaving he viewer with absolutely no idea what is happening. Please tell me that this is "because we need to attract the casual fan and they love to have no idea of what is going on"...

If you are going to show the horses from the satillite view, do a better job of identifing them.

Or better yet just show the pan shot, you know the one where people can actually tell what is happening. You know like they do in every other sport....

I liked the one where the gates opened,horses were running down the track,and ABC was showing the guys standing behind the starting gate

Merlinsky 06-05-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 654533)
Yeah you're really in touch.

Did you even look at the faces of the crowd? Many of them had a look of "wtf?" I actually started laughing, it was so comical.

If this is what you think of as being in touch, thank God you're not running any racing organizations. We'd be in even worse shape. And no, I don't hate the song, I just know what constitutes an idiotic decision by a caricature of a governor.

ddthetide 06-05-2010 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by booner (Post 654484)
They just cut off "Empire State of Mind" to go to commercial.......

glad they did, it couldn't SUCK enough!

jms62 06-05-2010 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 654513)
It is always nice when they show the start of the race from ground level, leaving he viewer with absolutely no idea what is happening. Please tell me that this is "because we need to attract the casual fan and they love to have no idea of what is going on"...

If you are going to show the horses from the satillite view, do a better job of identifing them.

Or better yet just show the pan shot, you know the one where people can actually tell what is happening. You know like they do in every other sport....

And for the Preakness and the Belmont they don't show the race prior to the big one.

ateamstupid 06-05-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 654541)
Did you even look at the faces of the crowd? Many of them had a look of "wtf?" I actually started laughing, it was so comical.

If this is what you think of as being in touch, thank God you're not running any racing organizations. We'd be in even worse shape. And no, I don't hate the song, I just know what constitutes an idiotic decision by a caricature of a governor.

:rolleyes: there was a big ovation for the song. Either way, it's a goddamn song. If you think the song they play before the Belmont has one iota to do with the "shape" "we're" in, then just wow. You need more important things to worry about.

Merlinsky 06-05-2010 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 654545)
:rolleyes: there was a big ovation for the song. Either way, it's a goddamn song. If you think the song they play before the Belmont has one iota to do with the "shape" "we're" in, then just wow. You need more important things to worry about.

I guess it would be easier to prove there was an ovation if ABC hadn't gone to commercial during the song.

And I didn't say this song caused the problems of racing, it's just one more piece of evidence that decisions made by certain individuals in NY seem to be done while high. You're the one who seems awfully defensive about a pop song, but yeah, I'm the one wasting my time. :rolleyes:

ARyan 06-05-2010 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 654529)
no shiet..wtf

Thank god they did...that was HORRIBLE!!!

Who picked that song anyway? What a bad idea...

ateamstupid 06-05-2010 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 654554)
I guess it would be easier to prove there was an ovation if ABC hadn't gone to commercial during the song.

And I didn't say this song caused the problems of racing, it's just one more piece of evidence that decisions made by certain individuals in NY seem to be done while high. You're the one who seems awfully defensive about a pop song, but yeah, I'm the one wasting my time. :rolleyes:

You posted in three different threads about how awful it was. I told you to let it go, and you think I'm the obsessed one. I've never seen someone take something so insignificant and extrapolate it to make it represent some sort of statewide incompetence or something. I'm not even sure who exactly you're blaming anymore for this unspeakable embarrassment foisted upon the good ol' racing fans of Amurrica.

ateamstupid 06-05-2010 06:57 PM

The thing I love the most is how the people who are complaining about what New York song should be played at Belmont are from Alabama, South Carolina, etc. :zz:

ARyan 06-05-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 654565)
The thing I love the most is how the people who are complaining about what New York song should be played at Belmont are from Alabama, South Carolina, etc. :zz:

I live just outside of Saratoga...

A song less than a year old should not be played as the song for the Belmont. Not to mention the rendition was horrid. Oh, and the fact there is much more to the "Empire State" than the "concrete jungle."

I always loved "New York, New York." I mean, when you are trying to somewhat replicate what "My Old Kentucky Home" is for the Derby, with what this song is to the Belmont the last thing that comes to my mind is a Jay-Z song.

Thank god ABC cut away, we were seconds away of switching the channel and waiting for the Capital OTB replay.

Rupert Pupkin 06-05-2010 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 654513)
It is always nice when they show the start of the race from ground level, leaving he viewer with absolutely no idea what is happening. Please tell me that this is "because we need to attract the casual fan and they love to have no idea of what is going on"...

If you are going to show the horses from the satillite view, do a better job of identifing them.

Or better yet just show the pan shot, you know the one where people can actually tell what is happening. You know like they do in every other sport....

These morons are so incompetent it's unbelievable. It is so frustrating that is almost maddening. I'm trying to watch the race and they won't show an angle where I can see what's going on.

At least they were smart enough to show the pan shot for the final 1/8th of a mile. LOL.

Bigsmc 06-05-2010 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 654563)
You posted in three different threads about how awful it was. I told you to let it go, and you think I'm the obsessed one. I've never seen someone take something so insignificant and extrapolate it to make it represent some sort of statewide incompetence or something. I'm not even sure who exactly you're blaming anymore for this unspeakable embarrassment foisted upon the good ol' racing fans of Amurrica.

Any post that utilizes the word "foisted" deserves a :tro:.

OldDog 06-05-2010 07:06 PM

Why didn't they show the Manhattan???

ateamstupid 06-05-2010 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARyan (Post 654567)
I live just outside of Saratoga...

A song less than a year old should not be played as the song for the Belmont. Not to mention the rendition was horrid. Oh, and the fact there is much more to the "Empire State" than the "concrete jungle."

I always loved "New York, New York." I mean, when you are trying to somewhat replicate what "My Old Kentucky Home" is for the Derby, with what this song is to the Belmont the last thing that comes to my mind is a Jay-Z song.

Thank god ABC cut away, we were seconds away of switching the channel and waiting for the Capital OTB replay.

Yes, thank god. I'm sure your head would have exploded and then caught on fire if they had stayed for one more second.

News flash: No song at any racetrack in the history of anywhere ever will approach the place "My Old Kentucky Home" holds. "New York, New York" is a cheesy song that's been beaten to death at Yankee Stadium over the past 15 years, and god forbid anybody tries to introduce anything youthful into the fusty American racing landscape. Once again, if you weren't in the city, you don't know just how big that song was last year and like it or not, Jay is one of NY's most recognizable citizens, so marginalizing him just makes you look silly.


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