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dellinger63 05-24-2010 10:12 AM

Independent Investigator Needed
 
I'm sorry but having White House lawyers clearing the WH of wrong doing doesn't fly. If the rumors are true about the Secretary of the Navy position being offered in an attempt to control an election it stinks all the way back to Chicago where Obama & Co. learned the move.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...est=latestnews

Riot 05-24-2010 09:39 PM

We can only hope that Obama stops blocking judicial investigation into illegal acts within the Bush administration, involving Cheney, etc. You're right, Dell, we do need an independent prosecutor!

dellinger63 05-24-2010 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 650861)
We can only hope that Obama stops blocking judicial investigation into illegal acts within the Bush administration, involving Cheney, etc. You're right, Dell, we do need an independent prosecutor!

Hey Hey! we agree. Go get em all!

But really the Sec. of the Navy is pretty heavy! Provided rumors are true.

geeker2 05-27-2010 04:32 PM

Obama says that nothing happen - that should take care of it :rolleyes:

dellinger63 05-27-2010 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 651757)
Obama says that nothing happen - that should take care of it :rolleyes:

Local talk radio is guessing Rhambo will take the fall and quit to run for mayor of Chicago. Makes some sense as Da Mayor's wife Maggie has been battling re-occurring cancer for a while and the Supreme Court is about to school Daley on constitutional law. Civil rights were violated and restitution needs to follow. Na Na Na Na, Na Na Na Na, hey, heeeeeyyyyy, Good Bye!

timmgirvan 05-27-2010 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 650861)
We can only hope that Obama stops blocking judicial investigation into illegal acts within the Bush administration, involving Cheney, etc. You're right, Dell, we do need an independent prosecutor!

"ex post facto" bonehead!

dellinger63 05-27-2010 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 651769)
"ex post facto" bonehead!

but in her mind the ruling order

1. Obama
2. Anyone Obama supports
3. Al Gore
4. Jimmy Carter
5. The Koran
6. 90% of the good muslims
7. Michael Moore

and other notables
31. Hillary Clinton
33. Nancy Pelosi
40. Bill Clinton
85. The U.S. Constitution
98. Abraham Lincoln
100. 10% of the bad Muslims
505. George Bush
1050. George W. Bush
7005. Dick Cheney
10,003. Sarah Palin

timmgirvan 05-27-2010 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 651774)
but in her mind the ruling order

1. Obama
2. Anyone Obama supports
3. Al Gore
4. Jimmy Carter
5. The Koran
6. 90% of the good muslims
7. Michael Moore

and other notables
31. Hillary Clinton
33. Nancy Pelosi
40. Bill Clinton
85. The U.S. Constitution
98. Abraham Lincoln
100. 10% of the bad Muslims
505. George Bush
1050. George W. Bush
7005. Dick Cheney
10,003. Sarah Palin

A mind is a terrible thing to waste....;)

dellinger63 05-27-2010 08:25 PM

OK this is easy. Sestak gets called before a Fed Grand Jury and is asked 'what job were you promised?' Felony anyway but ambassadorship is a ankle bracelet and Sec of Navy is beheading!

SOREHOOF 05-27-2010 11:36 PM

Impeach!!!!!

GBBob 05-28-2010 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF (Post 651875)
Impeach!!!!!

This thread

Princess Doreen 05-28-2010 06:51 AM

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...ge-w-bush.html

Danzig 05-28-2010 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 650861)
We can only hope that Obama stops blocking judicial investigation into illegal acts within the Bush administration, involving Cheney, etc. You're right, Dell, we do need an independent prosecutor!

he won't set that precedent. it might come back to bite him in turn. each side wants to be in charge, in power. but they're all pols, and at the end of the day, they take care of each other first. witness the senate 'ethics' committee.

dellinger63 05-28-2010 08:49 AM

"I think the president's a pretty legitimate, you know, person," he said.

as the lie detector needle pins!


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052705245.html

geeker2 05-28-2010 10:28 AM

OMG now Clinton was the go-between so they think that makes it OK?

When will the American people say enough of this sh*t from both parties!

Riot 05-28-2010 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan (Post 651769)
"ex post facto" bonehead!

Doubtful, Beavis. It's more as 'Zig says: let sleeping dogs lay. There's a can of worms there, but he won't be the one to wield the opener.

dellinger63 05-29-2010 08:22 AM

This won't go away anytime soon. How is offering the Secretary of the Navy position in return for dropping from a race not a case of quid pro quo? The President makes the appointment so Obama has to be involved. The fact he went through Rahm who went thru Bubba makes it a conspiracy. This is also a simple case able to be understood by even American Idol, Maurey Povich fans that makes it a nice, neat package. As I said before the position isn't ambassador to New Guinea it's the freaking Secretary of the Navy!

Danzig 05-29-2010 10:20 AM

From what I read this morning, the navy sec position was never offered. But these stories tend to enter the mythical prettyu quickly, so that little bit of fiction will never go away completely. This story is being blown out of proportion. Of course the dem party will want to choose their noms, so they turned to party leadership to get sestak to serve in another capacity. Mountain being made out of a molehill.

geeker2 05-29-2010 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 652292)
From what I read this morning, the navy sec position was never offered. But these stories tend to enter the mythical prettyu quickly, so that little bit of fiction will never go away completely. This story is being blown out of proportion. Of course the dem party will want to choose their noms, so they turned to party leadership to get sestak to serve in another capacity. Mountain being made out of a molehill.

The only problem is that it is against the law -

"Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment, position, compensation…appointment…to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any political activity…or in connection with any primary election…shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year or both."

dellinger63 05-29-2010 10:52 AM

if this was a molehill Obama would have answered the question of 'what job was offered' rather than say 'we'll have a report shortly'. He wanted his lapdog Specter in for personal gain. A true Dem allows the people to decide an election unimpeded. The 'we know best' attitude of the party come thru loud and clear. And Danz I agree with you should this turn out to be a minor job offered but it's still wrong in BOTH parties. IMO

Danzig 05-29-2010 10:54 AM

He wasn't offered a position other than an unpaid advisory one. Of course that's according to bauer. Nothing new here than anything either party has done in other cases

Danzig 05-29-2010 11:57 AM

'How much greater the sin when someone else commits it'

Now, I saw that on a church sign-but it certainly fits with politics. The righties and lefties raise hell about their opponenets on every issue or scandal-regardless of how small the supposed oCcurence may be. But just as quick to defend their own, while mentioning a 'you did it too' moment. And we wonder why the system is broken.
Insanity is described as doing the smae thing over and over and expecting a different result. Sounds like govt and politics to me!

AeWingnut 05-29-2010 03:13 PM

don't worry Opologists he'll get away with it just like Blago did

Riot 05-29-2010 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 652348)
don't worry Opologists he'll get away with it just like Blago did

Not much to "get away" with. You offer someone an unpaid advisor position so they won't run against your candidate. Big whoop. Illegal? Heck no.

I think there's a better chance of Sarah Palin's 14-foot "keep me in the news I'm a victim" fence was built out of code and is illegal <vbg>

geeker2 05-29-2010 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 652357)
Not much to "get away" with. You offer someone an unpaid advisor position so they won't run against your candidate. Big whoop. Illegal? Heck no.

I think there's a better chance of Sarah Palin's 14-foot "keep me in the news I'm a victim" fence was built out of code and is illegal <vbg>


Heck Yes


http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/29/595

Cannon Shell 05-29-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 652302)
He wasn't offered a position other than an unpaid advisory one. Of course that's according to bauer. Nothing new here than anything either party has done in other cases

Let me ask you a question. If you had aspirations to be a US Senator (and had a pretty good chance to get elected) would an unpaid, advisory position have the least bit of interest to you? It is hardly a reach to say that this unpaid, advisory position story is the complete fabrication. While I understand that politics is a dirty business, remember this was the administration that was not going to play by the usual Washington rules. Yeah now we know that was a complete fabrication...

Danzig 05-30-2010 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 652403)
Let me ask you a question. If you had aspirations to be a US Senator (and had a pretty good chance to get elected) would an unpaid, advisory position have the least bit of interest to you? It is hardly a reach to say that this unpaid, advisory position story is the complete fabrication. While I understand that politics is a dirty business, remember this was the administration that was not going to play by the usual Washington rules. Yeah now we know that was a complete fabrication...


i agree completely with that. washington is still very much a 'scratch my back, i'll scratch yours' town-obama said that would change, it hasn't. claimed he'd have an ethical admin, that isn't true either. bauer compared these actions regarding sestak to past admins efforts-business as usual.

dellinger63 05-31-2010 05:11 PM

my point continues to be if it was 'an unpaid advisory position' offered the question of what job was offered posed to both sides would have been answered long ago and it would be done. If this administration takes this long to determine the answer to an easy question like 'what job was offered?' imagine what it would take for a complex problem say N. Korea bombing Obama's birthplace.. :D

Cannon Shell 05-31-2010 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 652815)
my point continues to be if it was 'an unpaid advisory position' offered the question of what job was offered posed to both sides would have been answered long ago and it would be done. If this administration takes this long to determine the answer to an easy question like 'what job was offered?' imagine what it would take for a complex problem say N. Korea bombing Obama's birthplace.. :D

N Korea is going to bomb Kenya?

timmgirvan 05-31-2010 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 652886)
N Korea is going to bomb Kenya?

...just remember you heard it here first!:D

dellinger63 06-01-2010 05:55 PM

It's all in the memo. LOL Try again.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/p...533599c78.html


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