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jinjin 05-17-2010 02:55 PM

Rachel
 
Is Shaun Bridgmohan replacing Calvin? He's been on her for the last 2 slow works... Shouldn't Asmussen let Calvin take Rachel out and let her roll for a change. Let her have some fun. He's ruining her speed.

Rupert Pupkin 05-17-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jinjin (Post 648771)
Is Shaun Bridgmohan replacing Calvin? He's been on her for the last 2 slow works... Shouldn't Asmussen let Calvin take Rachel out and let her roll for a change. Let her have some fun. He's ruining her speed.

They were talking about this on TVG the other day. They said that regular exercise rider Dominic Terry has been replaced. They were questioning whether Calvin will be replaced too.

chucklestheclown 05-17-2010 03:53 PM

Maybe Borel was busy lately.

cakes44 05-17-2010 07:39 PM

Zenyatta.

I just thought I'd be the first one to mention her in this thread even though it has nothing to do with her. More to follow I'm sure.

JerseyJ 05-17-2010 07:41 PM

They would be rather dumb to replace Borel with Shaun Bridgemoron.

the_fat_man 05-17-2010 07:43 PM

Seems like just about anyone is 'riding' RA these days. ;)

ateamstupid 05-17-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 648840)
Zenyatta.

I just thought I'd be the first one to mention her in this thread even though it has nothing to do with her. More to follow I'm sure.

:cool:

eajinabi 05-17-2010 08:10 PM

How about Mike Smith?

Danzig 05-17-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 648840)
Zenyatta.

I just thought I'd be the first one to mention her in this thread even though it has nothing to do with her. More to follow I'm sure.

:D
:tro:

hurricanefrank 05-17-2010 09:07 PM

RA needs to be put on the engine. Plain and simple. Let her roll up front, free wheelin on the chooch and play catch me if you can.

iamthelurker 05-17-2010 09:34 PM

I don't think a change from Calvin to Shaun would be that much of a difference, if its not at Churchill the Calvin factor is seriously reduced.

VOL JACK 05-18-2010 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hurricanefrank (Post 648882)
RA needs to be put on the engine. Plain and simple. Let her roll up front, free wheelin on the chooch and play catch me if you can.

I might want to watch her Haskell again.
This was clearly her best race last year, when she set a stalking trip.
The Mother Goose and Ky Oaks were OK as well....:rolleyes:

Tactics are not the issue with her, she just isn't as good as last year.

Indian Charlie 05-18-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 648942)
I might want to watch her Haskell again.
This was clearly her best race last year, when she set a stalking trip.
The Mother Goose and Ky Oaks were OK as well....:rolleyes:

Tactics are not the issue with her, she just isn't as good as last year.

She was a half length off a 46.2 and a neck off a 109.4.

That is a far cry from 48.4 and 112.2 in a shorter race.

CSC 05-18-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 648845)
:cool:

I think he mean't Zardana.

Smooth Operator 05-18-2010 12:06 PM

Put her on a plane to Cali for that little 6/13 affair at HP


Switch to cushion may be just what she needs at this point :D

CSC 05-18-2010 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 648986)
Put her on a plane to Cali for that little 6/13 affair at HP


Switch to cushion may be just what she needs at this point :D

Great point, we know Zenyatta has been facing creampuffs all these years. Maybe Rachel can string together 2 or 3 and add to her 1 win over phonytrack record, she won't even have to carry 130 to do it, or not until she can string together 16 in row over these same creampuffs Zenyatta has been facing. The ducker that she is. ;)

the_fat_man 05-18-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 648991)
Great point, we know Zenyatta has been facing creampuffs all these years. Maybe Rachel can string together 2 or 3 and add to her 1 win over phonytrack record, she won't even have to carry 130 to do it, or not until she can string together 16 in row over these same creampuffs Zenyatta has been facing. The ducker that she is. ;)

No, No, No:rolleyes:

You Zenyatta lovers have it ALL WRONG. It's NOT ABOUT whether RA beats Z or even if she's DUCKING Z. This is ALL ABOUT whether Z stops DUCKING her AND all those MALES she's supposed to be running against. How the **** do you clowns repeatedly lose sight of this?:rolleyes: I mean, RA has done enough where she's beyond reproach and Z just keeps DUCKING (RA and the males) while getting SLOWER. Forget about the fact she also keeps winning and, pretty much, none of the other girls want anything to do with her. In BEYERland, it's all about the NUMBERS. (Of course, BEYERS on POLY --and elsewhere-- are useless but why would that stand in anyone's way?)

Merlinsky 05-18-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 648783)
They were talking about this on TVG the other day. They said that regular exercise rider Dominic Terry has been replaced. They were questioning whether Calvin will be replaced too.

Is "replaced" the right word? http://drf.com/news/article/113021.html This says he's working for Dallas Stewart now. Shouldn't be a commentary on Borel. It helps that you don't go chucking a Churchill-rail lovin' jockey when he just won his 3rd Derby in 4 years and the BCC is there. Of course applying logic to Jess Jackson is gonna generate a reaction like when you combine baking soda and vinegar, or mentos and soda. I just find it hard to believe Calvin suddenly forgot how to ride her. I'm thinking it has to do with instruction. If he gets allowed to ride her like he did last year, I wonder what they're afraid of. I still think some of it is either not trusting her fitness level still (compared to what she'd try to do with her body if allowed) or a notion that they need to rate more than they have to deal with Zenyatta later.

Danzig 05-18-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 648840)
Zenyatta.

I just thought I'd be the first one to mention her in this thread even though it has nothing to do with her. More to follow I'm sure.


give your crystal ball a pat for me.

jinjin 05-18-2010 07:25 PM

Doesn't matter who rides her or who she runs against... She will not get back to her brilliant self unless she is allowed to train in the way that Hal Wiggins did. She needs to train fast and let her do her 2 minute licks. Then at least she will be happy and fit. Restraining her in her works and not letting her run in the morning seems to be souring her.

Indian Charlie 05-18-2010 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 649043)
give your crystal ball a pat for me.

It wasn't a crystal ball at all.

It was one of those old phonograph players (record players for you young uns out there) that was playing a record with a scratch in it.

And to further explain what I mean to the many dullards that might possibly be confused, it means the Z fans are repeating themselves like a broken record.

Rupert Pupkin 05-19-2010 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 649025)
Is "replaced" the right word? http://drf.com/news/article/113021.html This says he's working for Dallas Stewart now. Shouldn't be a commentary on Borel. It helps that you don't go chucking a Churchill-rail lovin' jockey when he just won his 3rd Derby in 4 years and the BCC is there. Of course applying logic to Jess Jackson is gonna generate a reaction like when you combine baking soda and vinegar, or mentos and soda. I just find it hard to believe Calvin suddenly forgot how to ride her. I'm thinking it has to do with instruction. If he gets allowed to ride her like he did last year, I wonder what they're afraid of. I still think some of it is either not trusting her fitness level still (compared to what she'd try to do with her body if allowed) or a notion that they need to rate more than they have to deal with Zenyatta later.

I didn't know that Terry was no loger working for Asmussen. They didn't mention that on TVG. All they said was that Terry had been replaced as the exercise rider. I wonder what was behind Terry switching barns. It would be surprising if he simply quit, unless he got mad for being taken off Rachel. Otherwise you wouldn't expect a guy that is Steve Asmussen's #1 excercise rider to quit to go work for Dallas Stewart. My guess would be that Terry either got fired or he quit after being taken off Rachel.

Smooth Operator 05-19-2010 08:04 AM

Won't need any numbers guys to figure this one out … 17 :cool:

ateamstupid 05-19-2010 11:01 AM

^ # of years until USC makes a dent in the BCS again.

CSC 05-19-2010 11:32 AM

You Rachel apologists kill me even after all this time, the ship could be sinking and you guys would still be on deck while the realists are all safe and cozy on a raft and it's a lovely view from here I might add. :)

Indian Charlie 05-19-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC (Post 649240)
You Zentardists kill me even after all this time, the ship could be sinking and you guys would still be on deck while the realists are all safe and cozy on a raft and it's a lovely view from here I might add. :)

FTFY

Smooth Operator 05-19-2010 12:10 PM

Must be rough being an RA fan these days


Still a maiden in 2010 :D

MaTH716 05-19-2010 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooth Operator (Post 649259)
Must be rough being an RA fan these days


Still a maiden in 2010 :D

Why, did they take away her horsey of the year trophy?

scat daddy 05-19-2010 01:21 PM

We can bash coast to coast all we want but we are fortunate that we have two horses that garner the attention these two do. We should be thankful for this first and foremost and hope these two stay in the game for the year for a sport that is such shambles from coast to coast with horrible synthetic tracks which are virtually worthless to bet on, to tracks that are on the verge of shutting down or not having a meet this year due to horrific state government. Support each other here vs the bashing an we can hopefully make a difference in the future.

Scat OUT

Stickhorse 05-19-2010 08:37 PM

.....Quote:
Originally Posted by CSC
You Zentardists kill me even after all this time, the ship could be sinking and you guys would still be on deck while the realists are all safe and cozy on a raft and it's a lovely view from here I might add.


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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 649253)
FTFY

Yeah this keen wit is great judge of realists.

This is from the misguided genius who thought Simon Bray was inept when in reality from 2000 to 2002 he was 58-for-254 (23% wins) and had a great $2.82 ROI. He was 7 for 21 in Graded Stakes races and won Grade 1 stakes with two different horses.

letswastemoney 05-19-2010 08:43 PM

Must be embarrassing being Zenyatta

all that talent, and her trainer keeps entering her against molasses.

She's probably wondering when she's actually going to have a real race.

By then, age will have probably taken its toll and it will be too late.

johnny pinwheel 05-19-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 649404)
Must be embarrassing being Zenyatta

all that talent, and her trainer keeps entering her against molasses.

She's probably wondering when she's actually going to have a real race.

By then, age will have probably taken its toll and it will be too late.

yeah, she can't get a real race. theres no one even close to her right now. the only horse i can see challenging her runs hardly ever and the horse that was supposed to beat her, done chickened out and can't even beat the molasses that zenyatta would spit on.

Indian Charlie 05-19-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Stickhorse (Post 649403)
.....Quote:
Originally Posted by CSC
You Zentardists kill me even after all this time, the ship could be sinking and you guys would still be on deck while the realists are all safe and cozy on a raft and it's a lovely view from here I might add.




Yeah this keen wit is great judge of realists.

This is from the misguided genius who thought Simon Bray was inept when in reality from 2000 to 2002 he was 58-for-254 (23% wins) and had a great $2.82 ROI. He was 7 for 21 in Graded Stakes races and won Grade 1 stakes with two different horses.

Cute.

I guess being given great talent right off the bat had nothing to do with those phony numbers, right?

And riddle me this Mr. Twig, if he got off to such a great start in his training career, why, just two short years after his 58 for 254 streak, was he an analyst for TVG???

I can't wait to hear this one, though I feel that I'll have to wait forever.

letswastemoney 05-19-2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel (Post 649425)
yeah, she can't get a real race. theres no one even close to her right now. the only horse i can see challenging her runs hardly ever and the horse that was supposed to beat her, done chickened out and can't even beat the molasses that zenyatta would spit on.

There was nothing stopping Zenyatta from being nominated to the Met Mile!

Oh wait, except this I suppose. Well then I guess Rachel can be excused from shipping West. I mean you wouldn't want Rachel to cross those fearsome Rockies.


Indian Charlie 05-19-2010 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickhorse (Post 649403)
.....Quote:
Originally Posted by CSC
You Zentardists kill me even after all this time, the ship could be sinking and you guys would still be on deck while the realists are all safe and cozy on a raft and it's a lovely view from here I might add.




Yeah this keen wit is great judge of realists.

This is from the misguided genius who thought Simon Bray was inept when in reality from 2000 to 2002 he was 58-for-254 (23% wins) and had a great $2.82 ROI. He was 7 for 21 in Graded Stakes races and won Grade 1 stakes with two different horses.

By the way, I think it's kinda cute that you kept DrugS post rebuking my anti-Bray sentiments fresh in your mind as potential ammunition against me all this time.

I'm flattered!

NTamm1215 05-20-2010 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 649437)
Cute.

I guess being given great talent right off the bat had nothing to do with those phony numbers, right?

And riddle me this Mr. Twig, if he got off to such a great start in his training career, why, just two short years after his 58 for 254 streak, was he an analyst for TVG???

I can't wait to hear this one, though I feel that I'll have to wait forever.

You do remember that the younger Paulson ditched him at the end of that run, right?

NT

Indian Charlie 05-20-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 649477)
You do remember that the younger Paulson ditched him at the end of that run, right?

NT

Yup.

Why was he ditched? I know that the younger Paulson is an *******, but maybe he felt that Bray was not getting adequate results.

More importantly, how come that effectively killed his career? Why didn't anyone else of note employ him?

Arletta 09-14-2010 08:17 PM

Looks like exercise rider Dominic Terry is back aboard.

http://www.drf.com/news/rachel-alexa...saratoga-drill

clyde 09-14-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by iamthelurker (Post 648887)
I don't think a change from Calvin to Shaun would be that much of a difference, if its not at Churchill the Calvin factor is seriously reduced.

Don't you have a window to peek in?

iamthelurker 09-15-2010 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 695710)
Don't you have a window to peek in?

I love this little crush you have on me.


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