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stonegossard 05-15-2010 05:36 PM

Congrats Martin Garcia
 
Gotta give this kid credit. Rode the PERFECT race. Looked like Shoemaker....Arcaro.....out there. I am sure we will see a lot more of him in the future winning Grade I's. Congrats to Martin and Jim Peagram for finally getting this horse home and the win he deserved in one of the biggest races of 2010.

Cannon Shell 05-15-2010 05:38 PM

Must be the guidance of the new agent

2Hot4TV 05-15-2010 05:38 PM

So is GoGo the triple crown JINX

2Hot4TV 05-15-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 648144)
Must be the guidance of the new agent

Kind of like a family affair

stonegossard 05-15-2010 05:44 PM

Rather hilarious seeing Go Go on that hopeless horse just trying to keep him on the track as Garcia rides Gomez's former horse to victory in a triple crown race. Wonder how Ron Anderson feels right now ?

stonegossard 05-15-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 648144)
Must be the guidance of the new agent


Only way Garcia gets that mount was because of Peagram. He deserves credit as well.

2Hot4TV 05-15-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 648151)
Rather hilarious seeing Go Go on that hopeless horse just trying to keep him on the track as Garcia rides Gomez's former horse to victory in a triple crown race. Wonder how Ron Anderson feels right now ?

They will see sucess in the year, but I bet they dont ride the Kentucky Derby favorite in the near future.

stonegossard 05-15-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV (Post 648155)
They will see sucess in the year, but I bet they dont ride the Kentucky Derby favorite in the near future.


I have to disagree with that. The kid will be riding all of Baffert's first call's. And Baffert is the premier trainer of 3 yr olds each year. If he has a good horse in 2011 , Garcia will be on it.

paulo537 05-15-2010 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 648151)
Rather hilarious seeing Go Go on that hopeless horse just trying to keep him on the track as Garcia rides Gomez's former horse to victory in a triple crown race. Wonder how Ron Anderson feels right now ?

Wealthy.

eajinabi 05-15-2010 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 648151)
Rather hilarious seeing Go Go on that hopeless horse just trying to keep him on the track as Garcia rides Gomez's former horse to victory in a triple crown race. Wonder how Ron Anderson feels right now ?

LOL. Gomez is the best jock in the country, and he is going to have another year other jocks can only dream of. LAL will get beat somewhere and dont be surprised if Gomez is the one that beats him.

Duvalier 05-15-2010 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 648141)
Gotta give this kid credit. Rode the PERFECT race. Looked like Shoemaker....Arcaro.....out there. I am sure we will see a lot more of him in the future winning Grade I's. Congrats to Martin and Jim Peagram for finally getting this horse home and the win he deserved in one of the biggest races of 2010.

Are you the guy who takes all the pictures of the jockeys giving a thumbs up?

cmorioles 05-15-2010 05:56 PM

I would have to guess without the agent change there is no way Garcia is on that horse today. Garcia is obviously no dummy.

stonegossard 05-15-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi (Post 648163)
LOL. Gomez is the best jock in the country, and he is going to have another year other jocks can only dream of. LAL will get beat somewhere and dont be surprised if Gomez is the one that beats him.

Best jock in country ? He wasn't even the best in So-Cal.

Not sure if he is top 3. Now that he isnt riding in So-Cal vs a below average colony he won't be getting all the best mounts. He is gonna have quite a battle this summer at MTH and Sar.

2Hot4TV 05-15-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 648160)
I have to disagree with that. The kid will be riding all of Baffert's first call's. And Baffert is the premier trainer of 3 yr olds each year. If he has a good horse in 2011 , Garcia will be on it.

Read it again, I'm saying that GoGo wont be on the fav in the near future.

2Hot4TV 05-15-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 648169)
I would have to guess without the agent change there is no way Garcia is on that horse today. Garcia is obviously no dummy.

Let's see who is Garcia's agent...........Pegram.........hhhhhuuuuuummmmm

stonegossard 05-15-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 648164)
Are you the guy who takes all the pictures of the jockeys giving a thumbs up?

No. I think most of the jocks out there are borderline idiots.

stonegossard 05-15-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV (Post 648172)
Read it again, I'm saying that GoGo wont be on the fav in the near future.


Sorry dude. My bad.

cmorioles 05-15-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 648174)
No. I think most of the jocks out there are borderline idiots.

Garcia sure made a shrewd business decision though. Didn't he just win the Lone Star Derby too?

2Hot4TV 05-15-2010 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 648177)
Garcia sure made a shrewd business decision though. Didn't he just win the Lone Star Derby too?

Baffert tells you to take your book to Pegram (which if you didn't notice is the same name as the owner of one bafferts best clients) or you you cant ride these horses you're working for me in the AM. SHREWD!!!!!!!

stonegossard 05-15-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 648177)
Garcia sure made a shrewd business decision though. Didn't he just win the Lone Star Derby too?

Yeah. He is far from an idiot. He is in the small percentile that doesn't fall into the idiot category. By switching agents Garcia did the right thing. He now is riding for one of the premier trainers. Baffert ALWAYS has the best horses so Garcia will be set. Lone Star Derby...Preakness......kid is on a roll.

freddymo 05-15-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 648180)
Yeah. He is far from an idiot. He is in the small percentile that doesn't fall into the idiot category. By switching agents Garcia did the right thing. He now is riding for one of the premier trainers. Baffert ALWAYS has the best horses so Garcia will be set. Lone Star Derby...Preakness......kid is on a roll.

How did T Baze fair today at the Mecca of Rubber?

DerbyCat 05-15-2010 07:34 PM

Martin Garcia has a great story, I have no doubt he feels blessed to have the opportunities that he has been afforded. He has been winning a high percentage of races with Baffert and he earned this ride. He still has a lot to learn but considering he's been riding for less than five years, he's done very well for himself. Martin is a good kid and I personally am very happy for him.

On a side note, I found DerbyTrail back in 2006 when I googled Martin's name looking for a newspaper article I had heard about - thank you Martin!

eajinabi 05-15-2010 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 648170)
Best jock in country ? He wasn't even the best in So-Cal.

Not sure if he is top 3. Now that he isnt riding in So-Cal vs a below average colony he won't be getting all the best mounts. He is gonna have quite a battle this summer at MTH and Sar.

I would love to know who you think is the best in the country. Ramon Dominguez? Gomez is the best money rider out there and you knock him for two unlucky rides on LAL? Gomez doesnt ride in bulk but his win % is way above average so he may or may not win riding titles as much as Ramon or Bejarano.

eajinabi 05-15-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DerbyCat (Post 648199)
Martin Garcia has a great story, I have no doubt he feels blessed to have the opportunities that he has been afforded. He has been winning a high percentage of races with Baffert and he earned this ride. He still has a lot to learn but considering he's been riding for less than five years, he's done very well for himself. Martin is a good kid and I personally am very happy for him.

On a side note, I found DerbyTrail back in 2006 when I googled Martin's name looking for a newspaper article I had heard about - thank you Martin!

Also his english has improved 10 fold since he started riding.

Cannon Shell 05-15-2010 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi (Post 648207)
I would love to know who you think is the best in the country. Ramon Dominguez? Gomez is the best money rider out there and you knock him for two unlucky rides on LAL? Gomez doesnt ride in bulk but his win % is way above average so he may or may not win riding titles as much as Ramon or Bejarano.

Jerry Bailey

westcoastinvader 05-15-2010 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DerbyCat (Post 648199)
On a side note, I found DerbyTrail back in 2006 when I googled Martin's name looking for a newspaper article I had heard about - thank you Martin!

On another side note I bought some nice dinners and other fun things while celebrating Martin Garcia wagered winnings in Northern California very early in his career.

The guy kept his day job at the deli up the steet during his first year of riding thoroughbreds.

"Something to fall back on if it doesn't work out," he said.

I think he made me a reuben once. I try to stay in shape and fit and stuff so I do reubens sparingly. But man, I love 'em.

My wife and I did a wine tasting after The Preakness today.

This glass is hoisted for Martin Garcia!

(we all learned in the 7th inning stretch....."root, root root for the Home Team...")

freddymo 05-15-2010 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 648211)
Jerry Bailey

Ramon is close.. Bailey was simply way smarter then most and could read a racing forum

eajinabi 05-15-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 648211)
Jerry Bailey

I was refering to active jockeys but I agree about Bailey being one of the best money riders.

eajinabi 05-15-2010 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 648214)
Ramon is close.. Bailey was simply way smarter then most and could read a racing forum

...and he could also read the racing form too.

Cannon Shell 05-15-2010 08:05 PM

he may have a comeback in him

v j stauffer 05-15-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 648141)
Gotta give this kid credit. Rode the PERFECT race. Looked like Shoemaker....Arcaro.....out there. I am sure we will see a lot more of him in the future winning Grade I's. Congrats to Martin and Jim Peagram for finally getting this horse home and the win he deserved in one of the biggest races of 2010.

Sharp post.

westcoastinvader 05-15-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 648225)
Sharp post.


Sharp reader....

:-)

DerbyCat 05-15-2010 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi (Post 648210)
Also his english has improved 10 fold since he started riding.

This is so true, I remember when he started riding for Steve Miyadi - Martin's English was VERY limited but it sounds fine now.

I just really like this kid, Martin and Joe Talamo are my favorites - good people!

Rupert Pupkin 05-15-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard (Post 648170)
Best jock in country ? He wasn't even the best in So-Cal.

Not sure if he is top 3. Now that he isnt riding in So-Cal vs a below average colony he won't be getting all the best mounts. He is gonna have quite a battle this summer at MTH and Sar.

Gomez doesn't care about being leading rider at a meet. That's not his main goal. He doesn't want to ride 8 horses a day. His goal is to be leading rider in the country in terms of money won. He has done that the last 4 years in a row.

Not only that, but he's not going to be the leading rider at that many meets when he's constantly travelling and missing days. I don't know how you could hold that against him. He's won the national riding title 4 years in a row. A guy can't do much better than that.

eajinabi 05-15-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DerbyCat (Post 648230)
This is so true, I remember when he started riding for Steve Miyadi - Martin's English was VERY limited but it sounds fine now.

I just really like this kid, Martin and Joe Talamo are my favorites - good people!

I wonder if he still works at that sandwich shop. I recall him still working there while riding horses in No. California. What a humble guy.

the_fat_man 05-15-2010 08:51 PM

Today, Baffert, effectively, pulled Gomez' pants down and paddled him like a (Catholic) school kid. Well deserved, IMO. I'm sure Gomez will dismiss this as easily as he does his MANY blown rides.:rolleyes: Sure

philcski 05-15-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 648211)
Jerry Bailey

I sent you his DVD's for your birthday

Cannon Shell 05-15-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 648258)
I sent you his DVD's for your birthday

Awesome! :$::$:

stonegossard 05-15-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi (Post 648207)
I would love to know who you think is the best in the country. Ramon Dominguez? Gomez is the best money rider out there and you knock him for two unlucky rides on LAL? Gomez doesnt ride in bulk but his win % is way above average so he may or may not win riding titles as much as Ramon or Bejarano.



Ramon is tons better than Gomez. Right now I feel he is the best in the country hands down. Anyone watching racing the last 2 yrs can see that. Bejarano is another who is better. If guys like Castellano and Lezcano got the mounts Gomez is handed they would easily put up the numbers he has "money wise". Gomez is a good rider no doubt.....but he is by no means better than the guys I just mentioned. One could also argue that Leparoux and Rosario are right up there with Gomez......

stonegossard 05-15-2010 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer (Post 648225)
Sharp post.


I thought you wished both your former jockeys well ? You should be happy no?


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