5/15 (PIM): Ike out; 12 for Preakness; Draw 5pm (HRTV)
 

I don't know if LAL goes or not? Who all is going do you think? I know Dublin is going if Lukas has anything to say.


PREAKNESS FIELD

1. Aikenite (Todd Pletcher)
2. Caracortado (Mike Machowsky/Paul Atkinson)
3. Dublin (D. Wayne Lukas/Garrett Gomez)
4. First Dude (Dale Romans)
5. Hurricane Ike (John Sadler)
6. Jackson Bend (Nick Zito)
7. Lookin At Lucky (Bob Baffert/Martin Garcia)
8. Northern Giant (D. Wayne Lukas)
9. Paddy O Prado (Dale Romans/Kent Desormeaux)
10. Pleasant Prince (Wesley Ward)
11. Schoolyard Dreams (Derek Ryan)
12. Super Saver (Todd Pletcher/Calvin Borel)
13. Yawanna Twist (Rick Dutrow)

dublin has every right to be there, regardless of trainer.

I'm going! I don't even care what my trainer thinks.:D

Yeah just like the Caps belonged in the NHL playoffs.ha ha ;)

ummmmmm, they did. :zz:

it's a joke you know ha ha? I know Dublin has every right to be in the Preakness but sometimes ole D Wayne runs them just to be there in the gate. As far as the Caps go it was 1 vs 8 and they choked.

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964
Yeah just like the Caps belonged in the NHL playoffs.ha ha


Thats just plain mean!

I would say any of the legitimate speed horses deserve another chance to redeem themselves here, this Preakness is going to be more wide open than others.

thanks, i appreciate it...:rolleyes:

top three seeds all lost, crazy playoffs.

maybe next year.

The Caps were a dissapointment though I am not sure they would have won the cup with the goaltending they had anyway, Ovie is more flash than substance at the moment. He's a very talanted player however The same thing happened to him in the Olympics where he didn't elevate his game. I'd take Crosby over him anyday of the the week, Crosby finds ways to beat you and he seems to be able to elevate his game when need be. In a way this almost relates to horseracing discussion, where people at times deviate towards flashier horses rather than susbstance.

:zz::zz::zz:

Pass that dutch to the left hand side.

Left-handed smokes????

Ovie is the most talented player in the NHL but he is not a team player, Crosby is, every team he has played on has won a championship. Juniors, Olympics, and Stanley cups. All you have to do is look at the playoff scoring this year who's on top? Though he does other things to beat you, and who can forget the goal he scored on Miller in the gold medal game.

just messing with you my fellow Arkie. My Wings are not doing much better against the Sharks. What makes me mad is the "we're going to miss the playoffs if we don't get our crap together" then we go 20 and change to end the regular season. But I will say Just another Arkansas Derby runner wins the Derby:D

ok, let's get this thread back on topic and away from NHL playoffs (coming from a disappointed Sabres fan..)

from DRF.com:



Possible Preakness starters
By David Grening
The following a list of possible starters for the Preakness Stakes at Pimlico on May 15:

Horse (trainer)

Aikenite (Todd Pletcher)

A Little Warm (Tony Dutrow)

Bushwhacked (Jonathan Sheppard)

Caracortado (Mike Machowsky)

Dublin (D. Wayne Lukas)

Hurricane Ike (John Sadler)

Ice Box (Nick Zito)

Jackson Bend (Nick Zito)

Lookin At Lucky (Bob Baffert)

Paddy O Prado (Dale Romans)

Pleasant Prince (Wesley Ward)

Schoolyard Dreams (Derek Ryan)

Super Saver (Todd Pletcher)

Turf Melody (Graham Motion)

their record after ovie became captain was gaudy, so i disagree about more flash than substance. as for crosby, not a fan. he's talented alright. but i do think some tend to forget that this is a team sport. pens without malkin faded a bit during the regular season.
caps had one hell of a year, maybe next year they'll have a better post-season.

funny tho, ovechkin/crosby is almost like zenyatta/rachel. someone mentions one, only a matter of time before the other comes up.

Possible Preakness starters
 

Aikenite (Todd Pletcher)
A Little Warm (Tony Dutrow)
Bushwhacked (Jonathan Sheppard)
Caracortado (Mike Machowsky)
Dublin (D. Wayne Lukas)
Hurricane Ike (John Sadler)
Jackson Bend (Nick Zito)
Lookin At Lucky (Bob Baffert)
Paddy O Prado (Dale Romans)
Pleasant Prince (Wesley Ward)
Schoolyard Dreams (Derek Ryan)
Super Saver (Todd Pletcher)
Turf Melody (Graham Motion)

would love to see jackson bend come out of the derby ok and run the preakness...distance might suit him a little better

I can't see Pletch running Aikenite in there against SS.

@derbycontenders tweeted that Ice Box is unlikely for the Preakness.

was just thinking the same thing.

What about Drosselmeyer?

Interesting to see if Winstar decides to run 2 in that race, or points Drosselmeyer elsewhere.

There's no Peter Pan this year, right? So..unless you go in the Dwyer, there's not a lot of options.

U would think ice box would be ideally suited to the belmont...

Guessing that Zito may run Jackson Bend in Preakness and put Ice Box in the Belmont. Ice Box is going to love that Belmont stretch. Won't get 11-1 on him in the Belmont.

Don't mean to burst your bubble but the stretch at Belmont is shorter than Churchill by nearly 150 feet. The turns at Belmont are what go on forever.

NT

Now you have done it. My bubble is burst. I am so sad now. (I meant he will like the extra quarter mile.) Is that better? :)

Seems like he's the sucker horse now. That was a brutal trip and might take the starch out of him for a month or two. No way I take 3-1 or less on him in the Belmont.

Ya Ice Box will be the heavy fave at Belmont. The horse looked like he could run forever

What the max # of horses that can run?

It's Denis of Cork 2: Electric Boogaloo

14 sounds familiar but I'm not positive

If you like Ice Box and they plan to skip the Preakness you ought to cheer heartily for Super Saver to win impressively in Baltimore. Then Ice Box will be a larger price, nowhere near 11-1, but he'll offer a bit more value.

NT

So what does he tell Dogwood? Sorry I have the Derby winner, you can't run?

While I thought ice box clearly ran the best race yesterday, I am not that enthused about his prospects moving forward as he seemingly is the type that needs pace help and luck to be successful.

:tro: too true.

i agree. been figuring everyone will jump on his bandwagon now. people tend to look to closers for whatever reason in the belmont, when in fact speed and stalker types excel in this race. longer distances may well dull his late kick, and if the pace isn't right, he won't get there. i picked him for yesterday because i thought there was plenty of speed up front for him to close into. it's not always the case.

Just a side note, as a YOUNG kid I actually liked that movie. I think it is so funny that it gets made fun of so much now. (It did back then too but I was too young to get it.)

It is going to give us a better price on a horse who doesn't need the pace up front. :)

It's no different than in other sports, you need a championship to elevate yourself to superstar status. Not unlike Pletcher getting his 1st derby, Frankel with his BC...There are the Tom Brady's, Gretzky's and Crosby's that are associated with winning, until Ovie shows he can lift his team over the hump, he will always have that tag of being a great individual player that can win during the season but can he win the big game?

so, if you really believe that, doug williams or mark rypien is a better QB than dan marino???