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ateamstupid 05-01-2010 05:51 PM
2:04.45
 
Ouch.

10 pnt move up 05-01-2010 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 642523)
Ouch.
yea pace line is going to be like 130 pace and 90 final time

Bigsmc 05-01-2010 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 642523)
Ouch.
Did you expect anything else? Mediocre field and a pudding track.

ateamstupid 05-01-2010 05:55 PM
Sad that Willie couldn't get the money. Noble's Promise ran better than the fifth best race. Stating the obvious, but these are bad horses.

_ed_ 05-01-2010 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 642528)
I was totally against Ice Box but he appeared to have a lot of trouble and he reallly kicked in when he got clear, maybe he is a lot better then I thought.
That was a great run.

I couldn't believe how suddenly horses were stopping at the top of the stretch.

DaTruth 05-01-2010 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by _ed_ (Post 642533)
That was a great run.

I couldn't believe how suddenly horses were stopping at the top of the stretch.
It was like Conveyance and Sidney's Candy were suddenly running in quicksand.

Danzig 05-01-2010 05:58 PM
backtalk 70 lengths out of it...wonder if he'll go on to pimlico. :rolleyes:

Gauchos0522 05-01-2010 05:59 PM
I have no idea what they are going to do regarding variant but I can't imagine the number would be much higher than a 96 or 97 maybe even less.

Port Conway Lane 05-01-2010 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 642547)
backtalk 70 lengths out of it...wonder if he'll go on to pimlico. :rolleyes:
Only if it's sloppy

Danzig 05-01-2010 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane (Post 642550)
Only if it's sloppy

oh, it was for him alright!

i'm sticking with ice box in two weeks, assuming he goes.

pointman 05-01-2010 06:02 PM
SS got a great trip. Ice Box was best with a very tough trip today

Gauchos0522 05-01-2010 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 642551)
This number should be around 94-97 MAX, Im guessing its 100-103 Im starting to agree with certain ppl around here about BEYER.
The track played fast all day really so unless these last couple races go slow they can't really cut the race loose from the rest of the card. Would be suprised if they gave him anything above a 97.

the_fat_man 05-01-2010 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 642531)
Sad that Willie couldn't get the money. Noble's Promise ran better than the fifth best race.
Moved too soon in the Dixiana.
Moved too soon in the BC.
(Probably) Moved too soon in the Rebel.

And, moved too soon today.

MCPEEK is just a clown.

As for Willie --- 3 of these are his. The only 'sad' thing is his riding.

ateamstupid 05-01-2010 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 642543)
I am being serious here, no sarcasim at all. How did the 3 run a good race? Other then making the lead a bit early he was just totally empty. When did the 4 run away from him? The 3 simply could not get the distance, he is a miler at best IMO. Im not seeing it, he strikes the top well in hand and Borel just rolls right by him.... And now Borel just announced that hes winning the Triple Crown HAHAHA
Seriously? He was the only one remotely near the pace who didn't finish up the track. He was 3-4 lengths off a fracturing pace, made the lead and faded a bit in the last furlong. He ran a hell of a lot better than Ice Box did with the parasitic second.

Gauchos0522 05-01-2010 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by the_fat_man (Post 642567)
Moved too soon in the Dixiana.
Moved too soon in the BC.
(Probably) Moved too soon in the Rebel.

And, moved too soon today.

MCPEEK is just a clown.
As much as I'd like to see Willie do well I couldn't agree more. He simply has moved too soon with this horse almost every race.

Indian Charlie 05-01-2010 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 642551)
This number should be around 94-97 MAX, Im guessing its 100-103 Im starting to agree with certain ppl around here about BEYER.
What, that they fudge #'s?

moses 05-01-2010 06:12 PM
It's a shame Talamo used up Sidney's Candy to get to the front early. That horse had no chance after that.

Danzig 05-01-2010 06:12 PM
he's a front runner. it's what the horse does.

moses 05-01-2010 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 642591)
he's a front runner. it's what the horse does.
I suppose so. Maybe the horse had no chance simply after drawing the 20 spot.

Danzig 05-01-2010 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by moses (Post 642597)
I suppose so. Maybe the horse had no chance simply after drawing the 20 spot.
tough post, and first race on dirt-and slop at that.

ateamstupid 05-01-2010 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by moses (Post 642597)
I suppose so. Maybe the horse had no chance simply after drawing the 20 spot.
SC looked freaked out before the race and ran like it. He'll bounce back.

2Hot4TV 05-01-2010 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 642610)
SC looked freaked out before the race and ran like it. He'll bounce back.
I cant remeber any Candy Ride's that got better as they got older, do real good young and flat line, which is not bad. I still like Lookin at Lucky:eek:

Indian Charlie 05-01-2010 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 642652)
That is just the tip of it.
The fudging seems pretty obvious. What else are you referring to?

NTamm1215 05-01-2010 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 642568)
Seriously? He was the only one remotely near the pace who didn't finish up the track. He was 3-4 lengths off a fracturing pace, made the lead and faded a bit in the last furlong. He ran a hell of a lot better than Ice Box did with the parasitic second.
Parasitic? If that was a trip for a horse who capitalized on circumstance then I'd hate to see what would have to happen to a horse for you to think he encountered trouble.

NT

ateamstupid 05-01-2010 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 642816)
Parasitic? If that was a trip for a horse who capitalized on circumstance then I'd hate to see what would have to happen to a horse for you to think he encountered trouble.

NT
He may have had traffic trouble, but the race still fell apart into his hands. Everyone in front of him was gasping for air in the stretch.

hockey2315 05-01-2010 10:45 PM
104 Beyer

Gauchos0522 05-01-2010 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 642836)
104 Beyer
Thanks...seems a bit high to me.

ateamstupid 05-01-2010 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 642821)
Im still not seeing where Super Saver actually ran, this race was pathetic. I hope he wins the TC though, the crop is so weak he actually has a chance with his connections, and running style.
He may win the Preakness (I hope he does), but there's no way in hell he's getting 12 furlongs.

Cajungator26 05-01-2010 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 642842)
He may win the Preakness (I hope he does), but there's no way in hell he's getting 12 furlongs.
He's out of an A.P. Indy mare...why not, Oey?

johnny pinwheel 05-02-2010 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 642581)
What, that they fudge #'s?
no, that they are alright to look at. but counting on them the next race out is a joke. especially with all the different tracks and surfaces.

miraja2 05-02-2010 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 642523)
Ouch.
Well, isn't a beyer in the high 90s or low 100s about what you expected going in? That's what these guys have been running all year.

Pedigree Ann 05-02-2010 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV (Post 642616)
I cant remeber any Candy Ride's that got better as they got older, do real good young and flat line, which is not bad. I still like Lookin at Lucky:eek:
The reason you can't remember any is because his oldest foals have just turned 4! And Misremembered has already done better at 4 than at 3.

ateamstupid 05-02-2010 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26 (Post 642868)
He's out of an A.P. Indy mare...why not, Oey?
His past performances take precedence over his breeding IMO. He hung badly in the AR Derby and got his last quarter yesterday in about :26.55.

Indian Charlie 05-02-2010 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 643027)
His past performances take precedence over his breeding IMO. He hung badly in the AR Derby and got his last quarter yesterday in about :26.55.
In fairness to SS though, he really wasn't that far off a suicidal pace.

The pace Conveyance set over that surface was crazy. That was one of the better 40+ length loss performances I've seen in awhile.

ateamstupid 05-02-2010 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 643031)
In fairness to SS though, he really wasn't that far off a suicidal pace.

The pace Conveyance set over that surface was crazy. That was one of the better 40+ length loss performances I've seen in awhile.
This is why I said Noble's Promise ran well, and our resident genius handicapper disagreed.

Indian Charlie 05-02-2010 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 643043)
This is why I said Noble's Promise ran well, and our resident genius handicapper disagreed.
Yeah, I like NP. He's a pretty gutty horse. Why the love for Jackson Bend and not NP is a bit of a mystery.

Which genius capper are you referring to? There are many to choose from.

Danzig 05-02-2010 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 643027)
His past performances take precedence over his breeding IMO. He hung badly in the AR Derby and got his last quarter yesterday in about :26.55.
after the 6 f time, i thought it would be a quick race. oops. they crawled home late. swam actually...

cakes44 05-02-2010 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 643150)
after the 6 f time, i thought it would be a quick race. oops. they crawled home late. swam actually...
I'd love to see Super Saver's splits if anybody already has them. I'm too lazy right now.

Port Conway Lane 05-02-2010 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 643153)
I'd love to see Super Saver's splits if anybody already has them. I'm too lazy right now.
:23.58 :23.96 :24.15 :26.22 :26.55

cakes44 05-03-2010 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane (Post 643166)
:23.58 :23.96 :24.15 :26.22 :26.55
Thanks. I'm guessing it will be tough to win the Preakness with that same run.


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