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Scav 04-26-2010 03:26 PM

Nicely bred 2 year old Smarty Jones fillies available: 5% shares
 
Chuck currently has (5) Smarty Jones fillies that have 40% (8 shares) available for purchase. Details on the five horses are available below. 5% shares are available for $1,250 each or 5 shares for $5,000. You can either have a piece of all five fillies or pick and choose based on looks and pedigree. All five are under tack and training, three (Lady Thief, Angry Dragon, Slumber Smarty) have already worked 2 furlongs at Arlington Park and are working another 2 furlongs on Wednesday. Red Baroness and Hemisseu will be up at Arlington Park by the end of April/Early May. Chuck feels that all five have the opportunity to be ready this summer.

For examples of ownership, DTer ‘PSH’ is currently a 10% partner in all five fillies. You can also do it like DTer ‘Onebadbeast’, aka Joe the Dude, and buy 5% of one (Angry Dragon).

Total bills on one 5% share should be approx $150-$200 per month. This is a great way to educate yourself on horse ownership and have a piece of the action on any or all of the 5 nicely bred horses, while not taking on the total risk of full ownership.

Lady Thief: Smarty Jones x War Thief (Lord at War mare), Half to G3 winner Boss Lafitte, out of G3 winning mare.

Slumber Smarty: Smarty Jones x Dream Child (Giants Causeway mare), Mare related to sires Tomorrows Cat and Teton Forest

Angry Dragon: Smarty Jones x Screamer (Roanake mare), Half sister to multiple G3 winner El Roblar, G2 winning mare

Hemissesu: Smarty Jones x Wheatly Way (Wheatly Hall mare), Mare has produced multiple winners, including G1 winner Bevo and G3 winner Moonlight Sonata

Red Baroness: Smarty Jones x Must be a Lady (Lord at War mare), Mare is full sister to one G3 winner and a graded stakes placed colt, produced two racing age winners.

Any questions please PM Chuck (Cannon Shell) or myself.

Cannon Shell 04-26-2010 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 640036)
I might get down on Slumber Smarty....

I wonder why you like that one...

Cannon Shell 04-26-2010 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 640039)
Based at Arlington, only running at Arlington? Making it to NY?

Going to go wherever they fit/can win...At AP right now because of the huge availability of stall space there

AeWingnut 04-26-2010 05:55 PM

Hemissau bloodlines are interesting but the name is beyond me

NTamm1215 04-26-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 640040)
Going to go wherever they fit/can win...At AP right now because of the huge availability of stall space there

Yeah, Arlington must be struggling horribly with entries. They don't even have Friday's card out yet and they didn't put Thursday's out until late yesterday.

NT

AeWingnut 04-26-2010 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 640036)
I might get down on Slumber Smarty....

unraced mare

Cannon Shell 04-26-2010 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 640046)
Hemissau bloodlines are interesting but the name is beyond me

actually is Hemissesu

Cannon Shell 04-26-2010 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 640051)
Yeah, Arlington must be struggling horribly with entries. They don't even have Friday's card out yet and they didn't put Thursday's out until late yesterday.

NT

It isnt pretty at AP so far but CD is struggling for entries, Indiana Downs is as well and supposedly 1/2 of the Delaware backside is empty. Going to be a long summer for Racing offices...

blackthroatedwind 04-26-2010 06:42 PM

Are you sure " nicely bred " and " Smarty Jones " belong in the same sentence?

Cannon Shell 04-26-2010 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 640076)
Are you sure " nicely bred " and " Smarty Jones " belong in the same sentence?

compared to Desert Warrior

Coach Pants 04-26-2010 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 640057)
It isnt pretty at AP so far but CD is struggling for entries, Indiana Downs is as well and supposedly 1/2 of the Delaware backside is empty. Going to be a long summer for Racing offices...

Don't get vocal on this or they'll open 10 more tracks.

Cannon Shell 04-26-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 640090)
Don't get vocal on this or they'll open 10 more tracks.

I'm thinking about wintering at the new track in St kitts

Payson Dave 04-26-2010 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 640105)
I'm thinking about wintering at the new track in St kitts


you need a private clocker for their winter meet?

Cannon Shell 04-26-2010 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payson Dave (Post 640106)
you need a private clocker for their winter meet?

Absolutely

Payson Dave 04-26-2010 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 640108)
Absolutely

if ya bring doll along we can probably get a golf pro to sign on also.....

Honu 04-26-2010 07:33 PM

If I were to be in the horse buying buisness I would get some of the baby out of the Lord At War mare . The one's I have been around out of Lord At War mares have really wanted to run.

Scav 04-26-2010 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honu (Post 640113)
If I were to be in the horse buying buisness I would get some of the baby out of the Lord At War mare . The one's I have been around out of Lord At War mares have really wanted to run.

Lord at War and Affirmed are my favorite broodmare sires. Affirmed broadmare sire on the turf is probably my favorite wagering angle. For some reason I have alot of luck with it.

Cannon Shell 04-26-2010 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payson Dave (Post 640112)
if ya bring doll along we can probably get a golf pro to sign on also.....

need a Des Driver more than a golf pro

Payson Dave 04-26-2010 07:41 PM

extremely valid point.....Steve is the only non drinker on here... we can bring him along and let him handicapp now and then too

randallscott35 04-26-2010 07:46 PM

These are part of DT stable?

Scav 04-26-2010 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 640127)
These are part of DT stable?

No, this is not a DT venture

randallscott35 04-26-2010 07:55 PM

So these are mares one of you own? Just wondering how you came up with the costs.

Heels1989 04-26-2010 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 640105)
I'm thinking about wintering at the new track in St kitts

Future hot walker and stall muker ready to report for duty.

Payson Dave 04-26-2010 08:00 PM

I can see Steve is gonna need to be able to drive a multi seat van

Scav 04-26-2010 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 640135)
So these are mares one of you own? Just wondering how you came up with the costs.

I am merely helping Chuck out with this. There are a couple of different owners involved on the fillies already

Honu 04-26-2010 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 640118)
Lord at War and Affirmed are my favorite broodmare sires. Affirmed broadmare sire on the turf is probably my favorite wagering angle. For some reason I have alot of luck with it.

Lord at War breeding on the grass seems to be a pretty nice angle , the filly we had was by Storm Cat out of a Lord at War mare , she had some guts she ran 3 times with a 2 wins and a second .

philcski 04-26-2010 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payson Dave (Post 640122)
extremely valid point.....Steve is the only non drinker on here... we can bring him along and let him handicapp now and then too

I'd be happy to give up the very little drinking I currently do to be the short bus driver for a small salary and a place in St Kitts!

Danzig 04-26-2010 09:20 PM

also partial to lord at war mares, so i know where i'd be leaning on these smartys...

Cannon Shell 04-26-2010 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payson Dave (Post 640138)
I can see Steve is gonna need to be able to drive a multi seat van

He may need to get one of those troop transport boats to get us all there

Cannon Shell 04-26-2010 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heels1989 (Post 640136)
Future hot walker and stall muker ready to report for duty.

I was thinking you might operate our tanning lotion stand at the topless eurobeach beach

Payson Dave 04-26-2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 640186)
He may need to get one of those troop transport boats to get us all there


coolers are full



Heels1989 04-26-2010 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 640187)
I was thinking you might operate our tanning lotion stand at the topless eurobeach beach

gee, twist my arm.













ok, I'm in. :D

Drafting resignation letter now.

Scav 04-26-2010 10:23 PM

2 shares in Angry Dragon have been sold, 6 left
1 share in Red Baroness has been sold, 7 left

ddthetide 04-27-2010 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 640105)
I'm thinking about wintering at the new track in St kitts

i might Need a job before long.:rolleyes:

steve 04-27-2010 05:36 AM

send the paperwork!

Scav 04-27-2010 09:01 PM

(1) 5% lot sold today

Available shares
Lady Thief: 7
Slumber Smarty: 7
Angry Dragon: 5
Hemissesu: 7
Red Baroness: 6

Scav 04-28-2010 12:49 PM

Angry Dragon getting a bath


Angry Dragon (left) coming back from the track


Video of today's 25.2 work to come later.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNGl1LEUjJ8

Scav 04-28-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 640135)
So these are mares one of you own? Just wondering how you came up with the costs.

I apologize for not answering your 2nd question.

The costs have been figured from two years of numbers from being in business with Chuck.

We have decided that a partner can choose to pay a fixed monthly invoice of $180 per 5% share if they so choose. This will help cut down on the partner writing multiple checks for low sums per month. This number was figured off of the average cost of $3600 per month for one horse. They can also elect to be invoiced from our vendors if they so choose.

The only thing the $180 monthly invoice will not cover is
-- Nominations over $1,000
-- Surgeries
-- Any plane flights (which would only happen for a graded stakes race)

We are very excited in the interest these girls have attracted and looking forward to a successful summer/fall of racing them.

Any questions at all please don't hesitate to PM me or post on this thread.

randallscott35 04-28-2010 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav (Post 640941)
I apologize for not answering your 2nd question.

The costs have been figured from two years of numbers from being in business with Chuck.

We have decided that a partner can choose to pay a fixed monthly invoice of $180 per 5% share if they so choose. This will help cut down on the partner writing multiple checks for low sums per month. This number was figured off of the average cost of $3600 per month for one horse. They can also elect to be invoiced from our vendors if they so choose.

The only thing the $180 monthly invoice will not cover is
-- Nominations over $1,000
-- Surgeries
-- Any plane flights (which would only happen for a graded stakes race)

We are very excited in the interest these girls have attracted and looking forward to a successful summer/fall of racing them.

Any questions at all please don't hesitate to PM me or post on this thread.

I figured you thought I was spamming...Thanks for the answer.

Port Conway Lane 04-28-2010 03:32 PM

Hi Tom, thanks for the information I inquired about recently. I have other questions I wanted to ask.

If a horse is taken out of training for say 3 months what are the costs of keeping the horse on the farm compared to keeping her under training ?

Also I was wondering if the horse doesn't pan out as expected as a racehorse and has some value as a broodmare what are the costs of owning her for breeding.

Thank you.


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