136th Kentucky Derby (PP's)
 

Derby Contenders PP's

1 Lookin At Lucky $1,480,000
2 Noble's Promise $738,000
3 Sidney's Candy $630,000
4 Line of David $600,000
5 Mission Impazible $473,434
6 Ice Box $457,500
7 Stately Victor $450,000
8 Conveyance $386,000
9 American Lion $378,000
10 Dublin $373,208

11 Super Saver $363,832
12 Devil May Care $363,000
13 Discreetly Mine $355,000
14 Dean’s Kitten $326,475
15 Awesome Act $285,000
16 Paddy O'Prado $250,950
17 Homeboykris (g) $250,500
18 Jackson Bend $230,000
19 Backtalk $222,566
20 Make Music for Me $218,750
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21 Pleasant Prince $189,278
T-22 Setsuko $180,000
T-22 A Little Warm $180,000

Is there Ken Ramsey sends a few "pies" ala the Sopranos to some trainers?

Exhi wouldn't run wouldn't run according to TAP

What's the story with MMFM, Pleasant Prince, and Backtalk?

TV Coverage
 

Bravo - Kentucky Oaks


ESPN - Kentucky Derby Undercard


NBC - Kentucky Derby Red Carpet Special


NBC - Kentucky Derby 136

So during which one of these do they have the Woodford running in the background, but don't actually air it? That's awesome TV coverage.

Been that way for years now. Kills me.

I would really like to see Make Music for Me draw in.

Paul

Outsiders Backtalk, Make Music for Me Work

This is seriously the most tired complaint in all of racing.

Actually, it's not. The networks have typically owned the rights to the Woodford and Manhattan but elected not to show them, resulting in a TV blackout for the races. If they aren't going to show them, don't buy the rights to the races and let someone else air them.

The networks dont show them because they don't want casual fans to tune out as soon as the Woodford and Manhattan are over because they think they just watched the Derby or Belmont. And those fluff pieces they show instead keep people watching. And they don't let other networks show the races becasue they want all the viewers watchng their broadcast.

Yep. Nothing in that explanation to complain about.

Back in line, drones!

And how does this weak explanation, even if correct, make the complaint "tired"? Damn those racing fans/bettors who actually want to watch two of the typically six most important grass races contested in North America on an annual basis.

That explaination does sound correct. It fits what the suits at the networks want to do.

But it still sucks.

Yeah, it's sort of like an Irish Pub telling their regulars that they can't have beer between 4:00 and 5:00 PM on St. Patrick's Day so they can accomodate the scores of college kids that are there for one day and never come back.

NT

Most horseplayers and hardcore fans are at the track or the OTB anyway.

Last year HRTV went ahead and showed the Woodford Reserve live, hopefully they do this year as well.

Thats a lame excuse because they show other races on the Derby card. The casual fans wouldn't know th Humana Distaff from the KY Derby.

Who is "they"?

If Justin's explanation is the real reason, then I think the networks should still show the Woodford. Anyone who watches a grass race and thinks it's the Kentucky Derby doesn't deserve to watch the Derby anyway.

I believe the "networks"

I'm thinkin that not too many completely clueless fans actually watch unless they are watching with somone who can at least advise them which race is actually the Derby.

Well the "network" in question does NOT show any of the undercard races.

I guess "that" is the problem then......and they don't care!

HRTV will only show races 1,2,12,13 on Saturday. The rest can be seen on ESPN and NBC.

Derby Draw
 

1 Lookin at Lucky (Gomez) 3-1
2 Ice Box (Lezcano) 10-1
3 Noble's Promise (W. Martinez) 12-1
4 Super Saver (Borel) 15-1
5 Line of David (Bejarano) 30-1
6 Stately Victor (A. Garcia) 30-1
7 American Lion (Flores) 30-1
8 Dean's Kitten (Albarado) 50-1
9 Make Music for Me (Rosario) 50-1
10 Paddy O'Prado (Desormeaux) 20-1
11 Devil May Care (J. Velazquez) 10-1
12 Conveyance (M. Garcia) 12-1
13 Jackson Bend (M. Smith) 15-1
14 Mission Impazible (Maragh) 20-1
15 Discreetly Mine (Castellano) 30-1
16 Awesome Act (Leparoux) 10-1
17 Dublin (Thompson) 12-1
18 Backtalk (Mena) 50-1
19 Homeboykris (Dominguez) 50-1
20 Sidney's Candy (Talamo) 5-1

1 Lookin at Lucky (Baffert/Gomez) Blinkers OFF 3-1
2 Ice Box (Zito/Lezcano) 10-1
3 Noble's Promise (McPeek/Martinez) 12-1
4 Super Saver (Pletcher/Borel) 15-1
5 Line of David (Sadler/Bejarano) 30-1
6 Stately Victor (Maker/Garcia) 30-1
7 American Lion (Harty/Flores) 30-1
8 Dean's Kitten (Maker/Albarado) 50-1
9 Make Music for Me (Barba/Rosario) 50-1
10 Paddy O'Prado (Romans/Desormeaux) 20-1
11 Devil May Care (Pletcher/Velazquez) Blinkers ON 10-1
12 Conveyance (Baffert/Garcia) 12-1
13 Jackson Bend (Zito/Smith) 15-1
14 Mission Impazible (Pletcher/Maragh) 20-1
15 Discreetly Mine (Pletcher/Castellano) 30-1
16 Awesome Act (Noseda/Leparoux) 10-1
17 Dublin (Lukas/Thompson) 12-1
18 Backtalk (Amoss/Mena) 50-1
19 Homeboykris (Dutrow/Dominguez) 50-1
20 Sidney's Candy (Sadler/Talamo) 5-1

As Asher said, interesting bookends. East Coast bias!

WOW! 1986 since the last rail horse won.

So the two favs as book-ends. Cool!

Bombs a-freaking-way.

Wow......the 2 faves have their work cut out for them.

Doesn't need to be said enough times that it's a brutal draw for Lookin at Lucky.

CA phucked!

Wow only two horses at single digit odds.

Only help for LAL is Ice Box is in 2 which means he will have a little room cause Ice Box will be dropping back right off the top


Sidney's Candy is the one in trouble,how the hell is he gonna get over from other there

I am crying cause how do I play Dean's Kitten??:( I was gonna play #8 but HOW can I

I don't know that Sidney's Candy's draw is as problematic as Lookin at Lucky's. The 20-hole may force him to let Line of David and Conveyance go and sit off third/fourth, which was his only chance to win anyway.

They both bad!! Just saying Sidney's Candy will have trouble getting over and LAL will at least have a little space with Ice Box next to him until the ALL fall on him

Stupid question:

Are these the actual post positions or just the draw? I thought they had(used to have?) some stupid TV special for the draw at night.