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randallscott35 04-23-2010 11:29 AM

MTB Going To DWayne?
 
Say it ain't so.

http://drf.com/news/article/112410.html

HaloWishingwell 04-23-2010 11:56 AM

Why not ,they already got the okay to name change the horse from the Jockey Club to MALIGN THAT BIRD

randallscott35 04-23-2010 12:00 PM

This goes to something that was discussed on ATR last week. The super trainer is pushing people out of the game(I realize DWL might not qualify in terms of numbers anymore but he used to). I like small stables, but the genie isn't going back in the bottle.

hockey2315 04-23-2010 12:45 PM

Chip Woolley and D. Wayne are just about equally competent.

RolloTomasi 04-23-2010 01:07 PM

Hasn't Mine That Bird had 3 or 4 different trainers in his career already?

randallscott35 04-23-2010 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 638595)
Hasn't Mine That Bird had 3 or 4 different trainers in his career already?

Yes. Winning the Derby, 2nd in Preak, 3rd in Belmont was only 1 of those trainers.

RolloTomasi 04-23-2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 638597)
Yes. Winning the Derby, 2nd in Preak, 3rd in Belmont was only 1 of those trainers.

Yep.

Then again, its kind of hard to win those races at 2. I guess winning a juvenile championship in Canada was the last straw for the owners with the previous trainer.

parsixfarms 04-23-2010 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 638587)
Please dont even go here.... D. Wayne is one of the best ever, what the hell is a Chip Woolley?

Chip Woolley did a great job with Mine That Bird through the Triple Crown last year. His horse won the Derby, lost the Preakness only because he ran into an exceptional filly, and had his chances in the Belmont compromised by a lousy ride from an overconfident jock. He doesn't deserve getting knocked.

Left Bank 04-23-2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 638604)
Yep.

Then again, its kind of hard to win those races at 2. I guess winning a juvenile championship in Canada was the last straw for the owners with the previous trainer.

He was owned by his previous trainer,who then sold them to the New Mexico connections.

RolloTomasi 04-23-2010 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 638607)
He was owned by his previous trainer,who then sold them to the New Mexico connections.

Thanks. Didn't realize that. Makes sense why he never set foot in Canada again. Wonder if he'll show up for races like the Dominion Day this year.

letswastemoney 04-23-2010 01:32 PM

That sucks.

He wouldn't have won the Derby if Chip didn't change his running style.

slotdirt 04-23-2010 01:33 PM

Didn't he have like one race with Mandella or some other West Coast trainer?

parsixfarms 04-23-2010 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 638617)
Didn't he have like one race with Mandella or some other West Coast trainer?

He was with Mandella for the BC Juvenile in 2008.

cakes44 04-23-2010 02:03 PM

You can't argue with DWL's recent success with older horses though.

Honu 04-23-2010 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 638582)
Chip Woolley and D. Wayne are just about equally competent.

::::::Clapping:::::::::D

Cannon Shell 04-23-2010 04:55 PM

MTB is 8/5 in the cannonshell.com future book to never win another race....regardless of who trains him.

chucklestheclown 04-24-2010 01:30 AM

TYVM MTB...or should I say Mr. Dutrow?

Linny 04-24-2010 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 638617)
Didn't he have like one race with Mandella or some other West Coast trainer?


He ran in the BCJ for Mandella.

ateamstupid 05-19-2010 04:39 PM

Mine That Bird to Lukas
 
Out of the frying pan, into the fire. :rolleyes:

Quote:

Mine That Bird, the 2009 Kentucky Derby winner, left New Mexico on Wednesday morning bound for Churchill Downs, where he will be trained by D. Wayne Lukas, Leonard Blach, a co-owner of the gelding, said Wednesday.

AeWingnut 05-19-2010 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 638712)
MTB is 8/5 in the cannonshell.com future book to never win another race....regardless of who trains him.



He may be running in Optional claimers before it's over

teasing





Maybe

Left Bank 05-19-2010 07:51 PM

Poor horse.

Rudeboyelvis 05-19-2010 08:15 PM

I guess the owners have higher aspirations for MTB than Ruidoso / Zia park

DWL is in KY and will have a nice string at Saratoga - makes complete sense to move him

VOL JACK 05-19-2010 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 638582)
Chip Woolley and D. Wayne are just about equally competent.

As we say in here in Tennessee.....From worse to worser.

randallscott35 05-19-2010 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 649398)
I guess the owners have higher aspirations for MTB than Ruidoso / Zia park

DWL is in KY and will have a nice string at Saratoga - makes complete sense to move him

Yeah that ship from NM to Churchill really worked poorly last year.

Merlinsky 05-20-2010 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 649408)
Yeah that ship from NM to Churchill really worked poorly last year.

They can't find any crippled cowboys to drive him over this time.

chucklestheclown 05-20-2010 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut (Post 649379)
He may be running in Optional claimers before it's over

teasing





Maybe

Not a sure thing but I'd pick him over Naughty New Yorker.

MintHill 05-20-2010 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 649344)
Out of the frying pan, into the fire. :rolleyes:

What a shame for MTB and for Chip...Hopefully DWL will know when to stop on the horse...

CSC 05-21-2010 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 638615)
That sucks.

He wouldn't have won the Derby if Chip didn't change his running style.

I'm not sure, but I thought that had more to do with Borel than Chip "dating game" Woolley.

Karma should have smiled on Tim Ice , he should have gotten him.

Cannon Shell 05-21-2010 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC (Post 649636)
I'm not sure, but I thought that had more to do with Borel than Chip "dating game" Woolley.

Karma should have smiled on Tim Ice , he should have gotten him.

I believe Karma has already dealt with Tim Ice


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