Garrett At The Shore
 

Money talks. NYRA....listen.


Gomez to ride regularly at Monmouth
By Jay Privman
LOUISVILLE, Ky. - Garrett Gomez, the Eclipse Award-winning jockey two of the last three years, will ride regularly at Monmouth Park beginning next month, his agent, Ron Anderson, said Friday morning at Churchill Downs.

And you wonder why I need to correct one post of yours after another.

Is that you God?

I like the NYRA...The whole state is a mess with regards to the racing industry. Whoever needs to listen is fine, but obviously changes will need to be made.

FTFY.

Very nice Andy, but typical of your douche bag style which has the nicest of Steve's guests referring to you as surly.

Who ****in' cares where Gomez rides? How does where any jock rides impact on one's ability to pick (and bet) winners? Don't get paid for being a fan. :rolleyes:

And I sure as hell don't want this censored. In subsequent threads Andy talks about my mother and meds....Offers nothing. Would he speak like this face to face? I highly doubt it. This from a semi-public figure no less.

What the hell has gotten into you? Couple years ago you were an alright dude but you have turned into comedyness

I talked about your Mother? That's news to me.

You start a thread taking an ignorant cheap shot at my employer. I won't apologize for taking offense.

Can't wait for Monmouth to give away all that money and still watch Levine and Servis win 80% of the races.

Really smart move by Gomez. It'll be interesting if any other top jocks follow.

Right Tom, that must be it. B/c I don't take people's **** on here...You had a problem with Andy less than a month ago. So please. Spare me.

I think he talked about his mom, not yours

But that is besides the point. Seriously though, if you didn't post retarded stuff you wouldn't take ****, if you went back to old school Randall who had an ok handicapping opinion and reasons why, then you wouldn't be getting ****. You aren't PG1985, anything he says is crinkle....trashcan

I took a year off from here and am much happier now in fact b/c I don't take it seriously at all. I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to talk horses. At the same time I don't dig internet bullying. Most of the time Andy isn't looking to add to any conversation, he simply looks for posts to make nasty comments of whatever kind.

The whole thing started because you made a comment that intimates that NYRA has some vast resource of money that they're holding in lieu of putting it out there at their race meets. Do you really think NYRA would sit back and let Monmouth run a meet with 1 million dollars a day in purses if they had the wherewithal to match it? They don't and that's why they're not.

That's what elicited negative replies. I'm not Andy's attorney but when you say something that's pretty foolish, the replies probably aren't going to be friendly.

NT

I think the ongoing BTW-randy thing is awfully cute.

Could've been phrased differently maybe...fair enough...it is the style of post that is monotonous and simply wouldn't be said to someone's face on consistent basis which is my problem.

Entertainment value for sure. Glad I can keep traffic moving on the site. Can I interest you in a DT hat?

Is this where we insert the inevitable Rachel vs. Zenyatta comparison?

I laughed.


--Dunbar

Johnny V taking the turnpike as well.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/112429.html

Definitely more likely to spend some time on the Parkway if he's headed to Monmouth.

That's what I meant. :D Thanks

Cordero said the fact trainer Todd Pletcher will be sending a lot of his better horses to Monmouth - which is offering an average of $1 million a day in purses - is one reason he will be there.

"I have very little business [at Belmont],'' Cordero said. "Why have Johnny ride one or two horses a day when I can ride six or seven? I'm going to go there for sure.''

Interesting... I don't think there's any way to argue against that this will be a wildly successful experiment at Monmouth.

I don't understand how it's even possible that it will be anything close to " wildly successful. " I understand how it should be really good from a racing/handicapping standpoint, and it will be hard not to pay attention to their races, but I think you need to clarify what you mean by this. From a financial standpoint it seems extremely unlikely it will be at all successful.

Monmouth is a great place. From a fans perspective this should be terrific....but successful? For whom?

The intrigue is what will make this successful. The concept is new to a sport that hates to embrace anything new. Huge purses, high profile barns, and the nation's best jockeys signing up every day will make this a runaway success. Not to mention the field sizes. Also, a 3 day/week program will keep the meet far from boring and "watered down."

The sport hates to embrace anything new?

Which track would balk at a State that offered them the money to run a meet like the one coming up at Monmouth? Please tell me of a track that has in the past.

It will be wildly successful for fans- who will get a Saratoga-esque experience, and horsemen- who will be chasing mammoth purses, and since Kulina cleverly wrote the condition book there will be ample opportunities for the "regular guy"; hopefully from a handle perspective as well if others agree with me that this (and Saratoga of course) will be the place to focus their wagering capital. I'm not sure how well it will work out for the state of New Jersey, because reduced race dates obviously means unless they increase handle by 40% (probably unattainable) it's a net loser versus the traditional plan. I'd assume NJSEA ends up saving a lot of money on converting Meadowlands and on daily operational costs, but I don't know how their balance sheet looked before it.

randall needs laid on the beach

whats wrong with going where the money is?

If they increase handle by 40% it will be wildly unsuccessful from a financial standpoint.

I'm all for what's good for the fans, and it's hard to believe this won't be great for them, but as a fan of Monmouth Park I would be concerned about it going forward.

Why is Saratoga successful? B/c its a boutique meet among other things. This move is the future. There are too many tracks, too much racing. The industry should hope its successful. At least they are trying something. And NJ is in worse shape fiscally than NY in many areas.

I fail to see how a five month meet qualifies as a " boutique meet. "

Race Days. Do the math.

I don't agree.

Surely nicer than your usual response. People want to bet quality and big fields. If they can bring that to the public great. I love Saratoga. But this is starting May 22. I feel both can be successful.

If you want people coming to the race track and seeing 'name' horses, trainers and jocks, then I'm sure that MTH will offer that, and successfully. If you want to repeat the AQU Inner (+ turf races) or GP experience, then MTH summer is the place to be. I can't see how anyone plays this track seriously -- with or without big purses. With all the 'fair' options out there (WO, being the best of them) and all the tracks that offer real money making opportunities (WO again at the top of the list given the large fields) why would anyone play this bull ring?

I wouldn't play this track over BEL/SAR. Tracks like this need to be developed.

By the way 40 days vs. 50 days at Monmouth. Ballpark.

Kulina is hoping for a 20-25% daily increase. I'm not sure how much of that is managing expectations or whatever, but I think they do better than that number easily.

As a fan of Monmouth Park I also am concerned about it going forward. I love that they're taking a stand, a shot to try something new and possibly revolutionary, instead of just dying a slow death. The purse subsidy ends this year and I could see the AC casinos crying that they're doing poorly because PA has casinos now, etc and not wanting to re-up. What happens from there? Does Monmouth get their own slot parlor? Would it even be worth pursuing? From a more rosy perspective, what if this crazy idea actually works and they turn a 50% increase in handle? Does the industry take a clue?

He will easily get a 25% increase.

I hope they do great but it seems highly unlikely they get that kind of increase over their weekend days from prior meets. Sure if they go total days the numbers may look better but that's a funny way to look at it.

Remember, the big purses are not for the entire meet. If you take the entire meet into account it seems hard to believe they will achieve that kind of success.

50 out of 71 days. The last 21 days take over the Meadowlands' old dates.