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jpops757 03-03-2010 09:18 AM

Blind Luck
 
If they think she has DERBY potential, will they try the colts in a prep or go straight to the derby with out the ccolt measuring stick?

SCUDSBROTHER 03-03-2010 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jpops757
If they think she has DERBY potential, will they try the colts in a prep or go straight to the derby with out the ccolt measuring stick?

She has Derby Potential, but they will keep measuring her ability based on what she does on this Pro Ride. I don't think she likes this Pro Ride. I think, when she gets back on dirt (or even the synthetic at HWD,) you'll see a huge effort. She's no lock (to even beat fillies again) on Pro Ride. So, they won't try the Derby with her. They will run her in the Oaks. For one thing, this guy fks up anything he's every tried to win the Derby with. He's a very good trainer, but he can't train for that race.

jpops757 03-03-2010 12:28 PM

As good as her trainer has been in Nocal, hasnt it only the last 3-4 years that he has ventured to Socal?

The Indomitable DrugS 03-03-2010 12:37 PM

Blind Luck has no Ky Derby potential.

RolloTomasi 03-03-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Blind Luck has no Ky Derby potential.

What about Proviso in the Frank E. Kilroe?

Or Devil May Care (I think that's the name of the '09 Frizette winner) in the Derby?

parsixfarms 03-03-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
He's a very good trainer, but he can't train for that race.

But he can train for the Oaks, having won the race twice.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-02-2010 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 620029)
She has Derby Potential, but they will keep measuring her ability based on what she does on this Pro Ride. I don't think she likes this Pro Ride. I think, when she gets back on dirt (or even the synthetic at HWD,) you'll see a huge effort. She's no lock (to even beat fillies again) on Pro Ride. So, they won't try the Derby with her. They will run her in the Oaks. For one thing, this guy fks up anything he's every tried to win the Derby with. He's a very good trainer, but he can't train for that race.

As I said, she ran huge 1st race back on dirt.

RolloTomasi 04-02-2010 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 631779)
As I said, she ran huge 1st race back on dirt.

Congrats, great call.

How about Zenyatta in the Apple Blossom?

VOL JACK 04-02-2010 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jpops757 (Post 619977)
If they think she has DERBY potential, will they try the colts in a prep or go straight to the derby with out the ccolt measuring stick?

With 4 whole weeks out, I think she will run in the Arky derby next week.
Then Hollendorfer will probably rest her up for the derby trial, to get a race over the track.
The Derby Trial should sharpen her for a Oaks-Derby back2back Double dip.:rolleyes:

NTamm1215 04-02-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 631811)
With 4 whole weeks out, I think she will run in the Arky derby next week.
Then Hollendorfer will probably rest her up for the derby trial, to get a race over the track.
The Derby Trial should sharpen her for a Oaks-Derby back2back Double dip.:rolleyes:

He actually posted this in early March but I laughed at your response.

NT

VOL JACK 04-02-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 631840)
He actually posted this in early March but I laughed at your response.

NT

I guess it would help if I looked at the post date...before I go all smart-as$.

RolloTomasi 04-02-2010 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 631847)
I guess it would help if I looked at the post date...before I go all smart-as$.

This is the sort of stuff that can happen when goons bump threads from weeks ago in order to pat themselves on the back for predicting that a 2-5 shot would run big.

JerseyJ 04-02-2010 11:08 PM

Looks like Blind Luck ran pretty damn big today...I believe, a 104 beyer for Blind Luck and a 100 beyer for runner up Tidal Pool.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-03-2010 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 631856)
This is the sort of stuff that can happen when goons bump threads from weeks ago in order to pat themselves on the back for predicting that a 2-5 shot would run big.

Waste of your time to blame me, because I don't give a fk about the type of form complaint you made. I said she'd run huge in her return to dirt. Last time I looked, there's no place to bet on the ease of a win. I said above that she could compete with boys on dirt. Someone else popped up (like fresh dog poop) to say she had no chance at all. Note how people never complain when some people make unsubstantiated claims? My original entry was made a few days before the Santa Anita Oaks. I was trying to let people know she wasn't a good play in that. Sure enough, what happened? Got her ass beat. I said wait until she gets back on dirt. The difference is day n' night. Yesterday's post was a response to someone else. It's not for you. It's a piece of evidence that should be combined with the December race to back up my claim that she has a shot (on dirt) against the boys (which is what the original poster asked about.) This thread has nothing to do with your nosy ass...Zero.

RolloTomasi 04-03-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 631928)
I said she'd run huge in her return to dirt. Last time I looked, there's no place to bet on the ease of a win.

Great stuff. So now you want even more credit for liking a 2-5 shot. "Not only is it going to win, but its gonna win EASY!"

Is there gonna be a World War III, Mr. Nostradamus?

Quote:

I said above that she could compete with boys on dirt. Someone else popped up (like fresh dog poop) to say she had no chance at all. Note how people never complain when some people make unsubstantiated claims?
Isn't saying she can be competitive with colts still an unsubstantiated claim?

Or is dusting Tidal Pool enough substantiation?

Quote:

My original entry was made a few days before the Santa Anita Oaks. I was trying to let people know she wasn't a good play in that. Sure enough, what happened? Got her ass beat. I said wait until she gets back on dirt.

This thread has nothing to do with your nosy ass...Zero.
Hey, I gave out Proviso AND Devil May Care on this thread before they ran.

Obviously, I don't have the influence to affect odds they way you do though, as those two were both a bit higher than 2-5.

Bump.

Patrick333 04-03-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 631782)
Congrats, great call.

How about Zenyatta in the Apple Blossom?

:tro::tro:

blackthroatedwind 04-03-2010 09:46 PM

Come on guys, it's the first time SCUDS has ever posted anything that turned out to be even mildly prophetic. Cut him some slack. I'm sure he also bumped his brilliant Caracortado opinions as well.

Right?

DaTruth 04-03-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 632182)
I'm sure he also bumped his brilliant Caracortado opinions as well.
Right?

Don't rain on his parade.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-05-2010 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 632182)
Come on guys, it's the first time SCUDS has ever posted anything that turned out to be even mildly prophetic. Cut him some slack. I'm sure he also bumped his brilliant Caracortado opinions as well.

Right?

It serves them right for picking that race to run in. Have you even seen that trip at all? Wow. You watch it once, or with one eye on a movie? It's as if the 2 Puhich trained horses were only in the race to try to beat L.A.L., and ended up blocking (or cutting off) all but the winner, and the Hollendorfer newcomer (who also SEEMED TO BE USED TO HELP SEAL OFF THE CHALK HORSE,TOO.) I will say it was stupid to run in that race(no pace, and 2 horses who almost never run out of the money.) If people go read it, they'll see I didn't pick that horse in that prep. I thought they should have run elsewhere. YOU'LL NOT ONCE SEE ME SAY HE WAS GUNNA WIN THAT RACE, but you rely on people not checking stuff out.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-08-2011 07:44 PM

Anyone else want to talk some more shyt about me liking Caracortado?

blackthroatedwind 02-08-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 750398)
Anyone else want to talk some more shyt about me liking Caracortado?

Did he win the Derby?

You're hilarious. I picked Mine That Bird in the Borderland Derby. Should I have been doing victory laps after he rebounded with a win in the KY Derby?

SCUDSBROTHER 02-08-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 750405)
Did he win the Derby?

You're hilarious. I picked Mine That Bird in the Borderland Derby. Should I have been doing victory laps after he rebounded with a win in the KY Derby?

I never said he'd win the Derby. I said he was worth 50-1 to win the Derby, and you said he's so bad that Chocolate Candy would beat him. You said he was my Derby choice. No matter how you manipulate it, he's now shown you he is better than you thought he was, and that I was correct for loving this horse's desire. Yes, Blind Luck n' Caracortado were the two three year olds I took a liking to last year. They showed me the most desire. They have turned out o.k. I am not ashamed of liking them.

blackthroatedwind 02-08-2011 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 750409)
I never said he'd win the Derby. I said he was worth 50-1 to win the Derby, and you said he's so bad that Chocolate Candy would beat him. You said he was my Derby choice. No matter how you manipulate it, he's now shown you he is better than you thought he was, and that I was correct for loving this horse's desire. Yes, Blind Luck n' Caracortado were the two three year olds I took a liking to last year. They showed me the most desire. They have turned out o.k. I am not ashamed of liking them.

Actually no matter how you manipulate it you were wrong.

This exercise of yours is even embarrassing for the internet. But, please, feel free to carry on.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-08-2011 08:58 PM

Meanwhile, Caracortado has shut you up. Don't worry, he's small, tries very hard, and may wear down again. Then, you can again tell us he's bad. Problem is that your boy (Beyer) has already given him a 102.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVnoPJfft_s

That's the video that should end this discussion.

RockHardTen1985 02-08-2011 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 750419)
Meanwhile, Caracortado has shut you up. Don't worry, he's small, tries very hard, and may wear down again. Then, you can again tell us he's bad. Problem is that your boy (Beyer) has already given him a 102.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVnoPJfft_s

That's the video that should end this discussion.

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Caracortado Shows His Turf Chops in Millions Caracortado, a grade II winner...
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Caracortado Shows His Turf Chops in Millions


Caracortado, a grade II winner on Santa Anita's synthetic

Santa Anita's synthetic track last winter, proved equally at home on the lawn when he outlasted The Usual Q. T. to capture the $300,000 Sunshine Millions Turf by a half-length Jan. 29 (VIDEO).

This was the turf stakes debut for Caracortado, who was bred in California by Michael Machowsky who also trains the gelding and owns him as part of Lo Hi Racing with Donald Blahut's Blahut Racing. The 4-year-old son of Cat Dream won an optional claiming allowance at Hollywood Park in his only prior try on grass Nov. 11.

Joe Talamo drove Caracortado to victory at 3-1 odds with a stalking trip on the outside. Coming three wide around the far turn, Caracortado reached even terms with the Usual Q. T. leaving the eighth pole and gained a narrow advantage in deep stretch.

"He's a freak on turf and has such a tremendous turn of foot," Talamo said. "He just explodes that last eighth."

Caracortado won under strong encouragement over a stubborn The Usual Q. T. The second choice in the field of eight, The Usual Q. T. fought back hard along the inside for Victor Espinoza all the way to the wire but could not outfinish a game Caracortado.

"The great thing about him is he's run on every surface so far," Machowsky said. "Right now, percentages would point to staying on the turf, but he's so versatile I'm just going to play out my options."

Asked about Caracortado's next start, Machowsky said, "Right now, March 5 will be the date; whether it's the Kilroe Mile (gr. IT on turf) or the Santa Anita Handicap (gr. I at 1 ¼ miles on the main track), we'll just wait and see how it all plays out. At the level he's at now, every race is going to be a tough, tough race, but I want to make it as easy as possible on him. He's a gelding and I want him racing with us a long time."

The winning time was 1:46.75 for the 1 1/8-mile distance on firm ground.

It was 1 3/4 lengths to the late-running Soul Candy and Garrett Gomez in third as Cal-breds swept the top three spots over their Florida rivals. They were followed by 7-5 favorite Jeranimo, pacesetter Presious Passion, Mobiized, No Inflation, and Pickapocket.

After veering out at the start, Presious Passion carved fractions of :23.59, :47.02, and 1:10.81 while building a five-length lead. But the multiple grade I-winning lifetime earner of more than $2.6 million was overpowered in upper stretch by The Usual Q. T., who was in the clear briefly.

Rags-to-riches Caracortado, after winning all four of his starts as a 2-year-old, was a popular contender on California's Triple Crown trail last year. He captured the Robert B. Lewis Stakes (gr. II) in February before finishing third in the San Felipe Stakes (gr. II) and fourth in the Santa Anita Derby (gr. I).

In his only Triple Crown appearance, he ran seventh in the Preakness (gr. I) before going to the sidelines for six months. He returned with his win on the Hollywood Park turf Nov. 11.

The victory in the Millions Turf was worth $165,000, which expanded Caracortado's overall earnings to $491,520. He has now won seven of 11 starts.

Caracortado is out of the Maria's Mon mare Mons Venus.

Sent off as the third choice, the winning chestnut carried 120 pounds and paid $8.20, $3.80, and $2.80 and topped a $27.20 exacta. The Usual Q. T., second to Jeranimo in the San Gabriel Stakes (gr. IIT) last time for trainer James Cassidy, returned $3.40 and $2.80. Should Candy paid $4.40 t


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Sign In or Sign Up now to post a comment! I really love this horse. He might be my personal favorite horse currently running. I've followed him since he was 2, and won the Cal Breeders stakes at Santa Anita, and he never really has put in a disappointing performance, I don't think he was quite ready for the Preakness, I can forgive that one, he didn't run TERRIBLE there. He's a horse I will continue to follow and keep my eye out for. Great run here, next up is the Kilroe Mile vs Sidney's Candy, I'm sure he has the class to beat him.

blackthroatedwind 02-08-2011 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 750419)
Meanwhile, Caracortado has shut you up. Don't worry, he's small, tries very hard, and may wear down again. Then, you can again tell us he's bad. Problem is that your boy (Beyer) has already given him a 102.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVnoPJfft_s

That's the video that should end this discussion.

Here are my posts about Caracortado last Spring....



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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 630218)
Caracortado has about as much chance to win the Derby as me and the Fat Man in a horse suit.

Next.

That's it.

You're right on top of things as usual.

blackthroatedwind 02-08-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 750409)
I never said he'd win the Derby. I said he was worth 50-1 to win the Derby, and you said he's so bad that Chocolate Candy would beat him. You said he was my Derby choice. No matter how you manipulate it, he's now shown you he is better than you thought he was, and that I was correct for loving this horse's desire. Yes, Blind Luck n' Caracortado were the two three year olds I took a liking to last year. They showed me the most desire. They have turned out o.k. I am not ashamed of liking them.

Here is my post to you regarding Chocolate Candy....

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 630233)
You haven't paid yet for that obnoxiously bad opinion you had last year. That horse was so bad I can't even remember its name. I wanted to say Chocolate Candy, but this horse was so bad that even Chocolate Candy would whip its ass.

It never compared Caracortado to Chocolate Candy. I was mocking your terrible opinion from the previous year and saying THAT horse couldn't even beat Chocolate Candy.

Nice sniff out on Blind Luck. Any more 2:5 shots you want to pat yourself on the back for sniffing out?

SCUDSBROTHER 02-09-2011 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 750442)
Here is my post to you regarding Chocolate Candy....



It never compared Caracortado to Chocolate Candy. I was mocking your terrible opinion from the previous year and saying THAT horse couldn't even beat Chocolate Candy.

Nice sniff out on Blind Luck. Any more 2:5 shots you want to pat yourself on the back for sniffing out?

Yes, you mocked. How old are you, and you still do this? See, you caused the confusion. I didn't pick any horse in 2009. It was 2 years earlier. I said a horse should be considered as a contender, and you n' your sycophants all switched it to "my pick," because it's one of your many tricks....... That's how you confused me. You said Chocolate Candy from (2009) would beat some horse I liked (Yankee Bravo now seems to be that horse.) The horse (Yankee Bravo) got hurt in the 2008 Louisiana Derby. He was never the same after that day. They just kept running him, because he was a gelding they were trying to get claimed......Even if it was a bad horse, Caracortado isn't. Like I said, I think Caracortado is a small horse who eventually wore down on that heavy synthetic. Remains to be seen if they can keep something like that from happening again. It's never been a lack of class (which is what was claimed last year.)

SCUDSBROTHER 02-09-2011 12:35 AM

Rock, no to whatever you're asking about youtube. You were wrong about this horse, too. People expect this. That's why I didn't note it.

iamthelurker 02-09-2011 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 750442)
Here is my post to you regarding Chocolate Candy....



It never compared Caracortado to Chocolate Candy. I was mocking your terrible opinion from the previous year and saying THAT horse couldn't even beat Chocolate Candy.

Nice sniff out on Blind Luck. Any more 2:5 shots you want to pat yourself on the back for sniffing out?

And you tell me to go to class? Lol :wf

Dahoss 02-09-2011 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 750457)
Yes, you mocked. How old are you, and you still do this? See, you caused the confusion. I didn't pick any horse in 2009. It was 2 years earlier. That's how you confused me. You said Chocolate Candy from (2009) would beat some horse I liked (Yankee Bravo now seems to be that horse.) The horse (Yankee Bravo) got hurt in the 2008 Louisiana Derby. He was never the same after that day. They just kept running him, because he was a gelding they were trying to get claimed......Even if it was a bad horse, Caracortado isn't. Like I said, I think Caracortado is a small horse who eventually wore down on that heavy synthetic. Remains to be seen if they can keep something like that from happening again. It's never been a lack of class (which is what was claimed last year.)

You shouldn't have edited. The first version was a lot less paranoid and crazy.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-09-2011 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 750442)
Here is my post to you regarding Chocolate Candy....



It never compared Caracortado to Chocolate Candy. I was mocking your terrible opinion from the previous year and saying THAT horse couldn't even beat Chocolate Candy.

Nice sniff out on Blind Luck. Any more 2:5 shots you want to pat yourself on the back for sniffing out?

Narcissists rarely give anyone (except themselves) credit for anything. They (or their sycophants) just keep saying negative stuff about others, and keep saying good stuff about themselves......So, this is to protect myself from your false claims, and not to pat myself on the back. Oh, I can give you a thread that contradicts your false claim about me (on the 1st page of this thread,) but you will then switch to "I was kidding....Can you not even notice this?" I know your constant bullshyt switches. It's just like watching a madman swerving through traffic in a sportscar. When totally caught in a lie, you're always gunna switch to "I wasn't serious." I admit, most people are never gunna notice all the ways you manipulate a situation, but it's there. You do repeat them.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-09-2011 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 750466)
You shouldn't have edited. The first version was a lot less paranoid and crazy.

I'm not crazy. I'm not paranoid. It's not like he n' myself communicate with each other often. If I was paranoid, I'd be on here writing him all the time. Like it, or not, he is the manipulative individual. How many times do I come comment about something he's said? No, folks, he comes to comment about me. It's always characterized the other way. Look at the front of this thread. He attacks. Look at the thread from last year that we're referring to. He comes in to comment about what I said. Your types, then come in calling me a nut. This is all repetitive. I see it. You guys do it over n' over again. People are just not aware enough to notice manipulative people. It takes saying how a trick is done, and that's boring to people. However, they aren't bored by the actual trick itself. My point (last year) about Caracortado, was that he was a real competitive horse. He immediately switched that to whether or not Caracortado was gunna win the Derby. That's something general switched to something very specific. He , then tied it to a horse from 2008 that I also never said was going to win the Derby. This is the same damn trick. See what I mean about repeating the same trick? Now, in 2011, when Caracortado has proven himself to be a very competitive horse, he switches it to what? The 2010 Kentucky Derby. Did I say he was gunna win that? No, never. He centered the discussion on that, because it's very hard to win. It's what he does. This individual is highly manipulative. On here, he has always been that way.

Dahoss 02-09-2011 02:16 AM

Well, I'm convinced.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-09-2011 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 750470)
Well, I'm convinced.

Bitch, like I care.

blackthroatedwind 02-09-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 750470)
Well, I'm convinced.

Can you give me a cliff notes version? His lies and ramblings are just too long to even bother trying to read.

blackthroatedwind 02-09-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by iamthelurker (Post 750463)
And you tell me to go to class? Lol :wf


There's still genuine hope for you. He's a lost cause.

And so am I.

Dahoss 02-09-2011 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER (Post 750471)
Bitch, like I care.

Yeah, you don't care. You care so little that you responded to tell me about it.

Bitch was a nice touch though, girlfriend.


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