This is a pretty sick race...
 

8th (4:43)

7 Furlongs | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Allowance Optional Claiming ($62,500) | Purse: $51,000

Prg. # PP Horse Jockey Trainer Wt. Claim $ Equip. Med. ML
1 1 Brother Keith Velazquez J R Brown Chad C 120 L 12-1
2 2 Imperial Council Prado E S McGaughey III C R 120 L 4-1
3 3 Brady Baby Lezcano J Brown Chad C 120 L 10-1
4 4 Presto Change O Rose J Dutrow Anthony W 120 L 5-1
5 5 Warrior's Reward Leparoux J R Wilkes Ian R 120 L 7-2
6 6 Royal Vindication Castellano J J Brown Bruce R 120 L 6-1
7 7 Ling Ling Qi Trujillo E Catalano Wayne M 120 $62,500 L 15-1
8 8 New Member Castro E Weaver George 120 L 20-1
9 9 Snapshot Maragh R Mott William I 120 L 8-1
10 10 Freedom Bay Coa E M Kimmel John C 120 L 12-1
11 11 Break Water Edison Garcia Alan Dutrow, Jr. R E 120 L 12-1
12 12 Free Country Desormeaux K J Mott William I 120 Blk-On L 20-1
13 AE He's So Chic Lopez P Pompay Terri 120 $62,500 L 8-1
14 AE San Valentino Desormeaux K J Albertrani Thomas 120 L 10-1
15 AE Caixa Eletronica Coa E M Suarez Sergio 122 $62,500 L 10-1

This is a better race than the GP Sprint Cap on Saturday.

I was very pleased to see the quote from Ian Wilkes about Warrior's Reward staying at one turn this year. I think he has the potential to be a very nice one-run sprinter.

Brother Keith has always had potential, Break Water Edison is now with Dutrow, and then there's everyone's favorite Shug plug Imperial Council.

It is a terrific race and I'm looking forward to it.

NT

Would you like to know the 3 I plan on using in the pick 3's?

My evening would have a tremendous void if I didn't find out.

NT

Well clearly Warriors Reward is the best horse, on top of that he figures to get the best trip and for once wont be odds on, I feel obligated to lean heavily on him. I plan on backing up with the 11 and 12. They both can come running late.. A scratch to one of a few horses changes the entire race, if the 4,9 scratch then the other one becomes deadly. Imperial Council ahh, I fell for him last year, he sucks I highly doubt he is even close to good enough, same thing with the 1. I would use the 3 over the 1 or 2. Not sure what to make of the 6, hes ok and might be a decent horse but I think the top few in here are really good.

Yup, I'm gonna definetly take into consideration your capping knowing you think Peyton Manning is horrible at his position.

I appreciate your money at the windows, really do. :tro: :tro:

You brought this on yourself:wf

I agree it's a great race. But I also think it's a difficult one because you could make a case for many of them. There are too many possible scenarios that could happen for me to put money on it

All of the class horses in here are coming off long layoffs.
I think the Kimmel to Dutrow switch for BW Ed will be huge....Kimmel is the worst and there are not many better than Dutrow...That being said it looks like the trainer switch happened only a month ago and, BW Ed missed some works as a result.

VJ,

You remind me of a trainer switch scenario from the other day at GP that I've meant to bring up on ATR. That AE that got in Saturday -- Person of Interest -- was first time Dutrow and looked like he was OK. Turns out that the colt had only gotten to Dutrow 48 hours earlier. He and Michelle Nevin had no clue what to expect from the Tapit son and were very pleased when he ran a good 5th while wide throughout.

Also... This GP 8th is the DRF ROTD: Formulator PP's and DT ROTD Contest..

Warriors Reward seems to be the Hallmark of horses that find great races.
Get rid of 15k races and when the track is opened a lot more races would have this look. Even if it was a 40k claimer it would be ripe with real horse power.

I think Presto should handle these. So many have been laid up..It looks like a parade of fast laimo's.. Maybe a little Brady Baby who cuts back and perhaps Brother Keith who hinted he had some talent in July and needed the Dec race.. Of the laimos I like Warrior and the Ex Hough

I think Brady Baby passed up a really sweet spot this weekend in the turf race that Boots Ahead won. (he was scratched)
Being by Gone West and a trained by a guy with a turf foot...I thought that was a better spot for him.
As for Brother Keith, a lot of these would really have to throw a clunker for him to hit the board.

Brady Baby never raced on the turf. If it came off, he would have probably ran.

1&3 both scratched

scratches really should help out snapshot. i like him but am worried about that 7th furlong

GG,

Agreed... I added him to the P4 play myself. Faces much less pressure now post-SCR's. (And He's So Chic is going to be overlooked and figures to sit a nice stalking trip outside... Added him to the play as well.)

Did Presto scratch or is he back in?

The scratch was HUGE, Im using Snapshot and Warrior, I dont think anyone else can win now, would not be suprised to see BWE run big, but was he ever that good?

Was Warrior's Reward ever good?

Are you kidding me, at one point last year he was top 3.
Dont play with me about him, I have a soft spot in my heart for him.

And a soft spot in your wallet.

I think Warrior's Reward's season last year would have been completely different if he had been kept going one turn at a mile or under. He was totally wasted in the Dwyer-Dandy-Travers and Wilkes knows it now. His win on Oaks day (while via a very nice trip) was solid.

I think he has a chance to be a very nice closing sprinter.

NT

I think he would win the Met if rode the right way. Hes a serious serious horse.

This horse has yet to run what I consider a GOOD race. Not saying he can't but since he hasn't to this point, I'll just consider him to be what he is: a horse that needs a PERFECT SETUP to run well. Plenty of horses can pick up the pace sprinting when the race collapses.

Maybe he got better as a 4 year old. We'll see.

I Liked when WB was open because apparently you have no clue how to earn on grass or dirt..

I originally shared your opinion on him, but after further consideration and evidence I think you're much better off having a negative opinion on him since he'll forever be overbet off the hype and one false performance.

For starters - his trip on Oaks day was more than very nice - it was perfect.

The pace was absurdly fast (99+13, 101+8, 98+2) and he got the patented Borel ride that turned Mine that Bird into a completely different horse the next day. I'm also not sure what to make of Munnings running second now that we know he hates wet surfaces (granted, the track was "good" and not "sloppy").

You can only make so many excuses for him before the 113 looks like an exception and not the rule. He might be able to win this race with a mediocre performance because there are a lot of question marks in the field, but I will be shocked if he ever runs back to the big fig and shakes his current status as a perpetual underlay.

I cant beleive how your turning on him.
Go bet Kensei somewhere.

Another thing, they messed with this horses running style how many times last year? From 7f-9f how many 3yr olds last year can you say were 100% better then him, IMO not many.

Kensei accomplished more last year than this horse ever will. And I guess you didn't read my post in the other thread.

How many horses were better than him last year? Let's see . . . Flavor, El Brujo, Not For Silver, Conchacer, Evolutionist, Summer Bird, Hold Me Back, Quality Road, Charitable Man, Kensei, Convocation, Successful Dan. . . Should I continue?

2 horses on your list were better.

I don't know what's more scary about this - that you didn't realize what I was doing or that between Quality Road, Summer Bird, Kensei, and Hold Me Back you actually think he was better than two of them.

I know what you were doing, and you know I know.
He was better then Kensei and HMB.

I like WR but he's never won a stakes race. All those listed above beat him in graded stakes. WR was beaten in listed races as well. He neds to pick a running style and stick with it 'til he perfects it.

snapshot is a massive overlay at 12-1 with 5 mtp

Never really asked to run at any point and won for fun.
What do you think now?

Fats that was a "wipe out"winner nice call stick to poly

Warrior's?

Yea, Julian just tipped him out of trouble never got into him, it was a workout for him.

You can't possibly be this dense. Ya - he really crushed those horses at 9/5. :rolleyes:

I know you'll never grasp this distinction, but no matter what he does you will never get fair odds on this horse. The idiot on HRTV just proved my point by calling him a graded stakes winner - his reputation will always exceed his real ability. Did you get back the money you lost on him in the Northern Dancer, the Dwyer, the Jim Dandy, the Travers, and the Perryville today?

it was a nice return and i think hes okay. but he was asked to run plenty.

You know dam well as far as large win bets I only bet him in 1 of those spots.