Rachel works!
 

1/2 in 52

http://www.drf.com/news/article/110496.html

Yay! :D

Rachel Alexandra 14-Race DVD Time Capsule coming!
 

not sure if anyone else has seen this, but I ran into a horse racing DVD website that will be offering a RACHEL ALEXANDRA 14-Race Time Capsule pretty soon. Check it out:

http://www.horseracingdvd.com/index.php?p=home

I like the idea but it is a little pre-mature. She isn't done. Well, she may be but she isn't yet.

They better get her in the best shape of her life …




cuz there's a monster lurking out there…








Z :cool:

Seriously you must be kidding? Assuming the Z stands for the horse that only runs in Cali, needs a poly and turf horses to become a monster. So sorry Charlie but your going to be disappointed when the finish line comes this year. That is of course if the good connections choose to hook the HOY that is...


Scat OUT

Can we make predictions on where and when this race will take place? Put up odds?

Apple Blossom at Oaklawn 15-1
La Troienne at CD 10-1
Ogden Phipps at Belmont 6-1
Personal Ensign at Saratoga 20-1
Delaware Hdcp at Delaware 22-1
Never 8-5

I've never been to any of these places in California. Are they new? I assume they all have synthetic tracks?

wouldnt be surprised if she never goes to post again.......

Oaks Day is still huge without the matchup, so I can't see CD pulling out all the stops for the La Troienne. But I can see them doing it to get RA and Z to show up in a primetime Stephen Foster.

I think never is an overlay at 8-5.

Why?

That's actually a great question. Other than horseplayers generally being skeptics (from experience) I'm not sure why everyone is so convinced it won't happen.

NT

I can Moss Backing out last minute if the field comes up really short and light on early speed.

I think they really emptied Rachel's tank when she won the Woodward. Based on the way champion fillies have returned to the races in recent years, my gut tells me that she won't be able to race at the same high level in 2010 that she did in 2009. I can't see Jackson pressing on with her under those circumstances. I hope that I am wrong.

exactly, it would be one thing if she was a fragile animal, but she has been sound and raced often.

So, Jess Jackson raced her in the Preakness on a 2 week layoff.. the Haskell and the Woodward.. do people think he'll retire her with a "mystery injury" so she wont ever lose again? JJ has already proven that he is not scared to take the risk of losing.

I think there is a higher chance of her racing this year than not racing.. i'd say 80/20 that she races. but she still is a race horse and they can take one bad step and get a career ending injury so I guess that is possible..

I dont understand this? I thought Zenyetta did just fine returning to the races? Ashado, Azeri and others come to mind.

If you are referencing two year olds not advancing as three year olds (like Stardom Bound and all the countless 2yo fillies that do not improve), that is comparing apples to oranges.

Aside form the 2YOs, I'm thinking most recent 3YO fily champions (Proud Spell, Rags to Riches, Wait a While, Smuggler) and an older mare such as Ginger Punch. Maybe some of these weren't "great" to begin with, but none raced at the same level as they had in their championship season. Even Ashado, who you mentioned, was better at 3 than she was at 4.

Wait a While ran real well for a couple of years. Rags to Riches got hurt & didnt race at 4.. dont remember completely about Proud Spell and Smuggler.. but didnt they get hurt also? Ginger Punch was incredibly slow and overrated..

I think in general, good sound horses improve from year 3 to 4. Though she was so good at 3 it may not be possible for her to improve much.. She had enough time off after the Woodward where that brutal race for her shouldnt affect her.

We'll see but i expect her to not only race 5-7 times this year but to do very well again.

I just think that if it was going to happen, last year was the time for it. Both of them were in peak form as opposed to now having to work there way back into it after layoffs. There are so many what if's just trying to get back to the track let alone to the form that these ladies ran to last year. Now if they can get back to that form (not an automatic) to both camps desire, there's still the matter of agreeing to a race/track (with everyone's luck it will probably rain that day anyway complicating matters further). Also what if one of them should lose a comeback race, would the matchup lose any of the luster that it would have had say the race was last year? I personally just think it isn't going to happen.

If both horses are sound - I obviously expect it to happen at least once.

You got it all wrong, scat daddy … Z is coming after Lucky Alexander this season.



The exposure of Lucky will be a glorious thing to behold… :cool:

After an extensive study of message board posting, I have determined that the more a poster repeats the same post the less he/she has to say.

:tro:

Wait a While was still awesome at 4 and 5 and Ginger Punch continued being her slow self after her Eclipse. All Ashado did was win three more G1's at 4 and run third behind a runaway winner in the Distaff. I don't see a precedent for Rachel's regression if she's healthy.

Lookin at Lucky?

Very true, Throat … and I didn't have to do an "extensive study" … just looked over a few "dellinger63" and "Nascar1966" posts on the Politics board … lol



Z ... nuff said :cool:

Wait a While was awesome? When? She was decent and a product of her connections.. She was a Group 2 (europe) animal with a Clen drip.. Ashado was perhaps the biggest fraud Chumpion of all time..

The Serling principle?

I've made a very extensive study......proving even further how little I value my time.

She would be 1 to 5 in a mythical match race with Ginger Punch.

Told myself the same thing. It was actually a New Year's resolution that's quickly going awry.

Remember Oaklawn Park? I believe her best speed figure to date and that is dirt.
It will be a good race. Probably at Belmont Park.

Way to read. I said she didn't seriously regress after three. Her fastest race was her '07 Ballston Spa if I'm not mistaken.

You think? Why another perfect trip? Ginger Punch is an easy mare to knock and nobody liked her because she was slow for the level of success she achieved winning races. Neither were "all that' unless you owned them or trained them.

Actually I read that "she was still awesome at 4 and 5".. His was an ok mare that ran during a highly suspect time in her trainers reign. She was never awesome

Both got perfect trips many times, but Ashado was faster.

Ashado lost to Silmaril. That is all.

Hey, Holy Bull was a 1/5 favorite against Cigar and others in the Donn Handicap - and look what happened. Cigar made him suffer a breakdown after just a few furlongs.

Yours Truly,
Valuist from Pace Advantage