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brockguy 01-24-2010 12:15 PM

Dubai Carnival Contest III
 
Might as well start it up seeing as the Carnival starts this Thursday.

Roll of Honour
2009 - No Chance To Dance
2008 - Jairpeo

Ive changed the format slightly from last year.

- 2 selections per race, plus alternates

- $30 win on the first horse, $10 win on the second and a $5 exacta box on the 2 selected horses.

- Mark your best bet of the day (Nap) and that horse's stake is doubled

- All returns settled at UK Industry Odds and only the thoroughbred races count!!

- Like last year, Super Thursday points will be doubled and World Cup Night points trebled.

- The person with the highest return over the period wins and dont worry if you miss a week or two, ye are all welcome - we got 12 playing last year so hopefully we will get a few more this year. Thats the plan.

The following are Carnival dates:
28 Jan
4 Feb
5 Feb
11 Feb
18 Feb
19 Feb
25 Feb
4 Mar (Super Thursday)
5 Mar
27 Mar (World Cup Night)

Ill try to post useful links for the Carnival. The most obvious ones would be www.dubairacenight.com (great website run by member Pat Cummings) and www.dubairacingclub.com

If anyone else has queries, questions, abuse for me etc etc, just let me know.

NoChanceToDance 01-24-2010 12:46 PM

I was thinking about this and whether you were going to run it again this year. Brilliant news.

I'm heading back to Oz sometime in Feb, but hopefully I'll be able to post selections each week.

Hope we get some more 'punters' involved this year, it's been good fun these last two years.

Winners could be difficult to find on the first meeting, with it being a new track, new surface etc etc. As far as betting goes, I think I'll be leaving it as a watching brief.

chucklestheclown 01-24-2010 01:17 PM

I'll certainly try to participate. Do you have to pick the full card every day?

NoChanceToDance 01-24-2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
I'll certainly try to participate. Do you have to pick the full card every day?

You don't HAVE to pick the full card, but the competition is for every race, so by not picking in each race you would lose out on the chance in making profit.

The carnvial runs each Thursday (although they sometimes will race on a Tuesday, too), but it's only usually once a week from this coming Thursday through until Mid March.

jaripeo 01-24-2010 01:47 PM

Ill try to post useful links for the Carnival. The most obvious ones would be www.dubairacenight.com (great website run by member Pat Cummings) and www.dubairacingclub.com

If anyone else has queries, questions, abuse for me etc etc, just let me know.[/quote]

YOU FORGET www.emiratesracing.com :)

PatCummings 01-25-2010 05:48 PM

All the meetings are Thursday/ Friday this year. I'm in...of course...

I'll have video analysis up on DubaiRaceNight.com as well which will give some added insight.

my miss storm cat 01-25-2010 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
If anyone else has queries, questions, abuse for me etc etc, just let me know.

Sounds kinky. :p

I'm playing but like No Chance I'll hold off the first week or two...

gamblin4ever 01-25-2010 10:43 PM

I don't know much about racing over there. Can you explain the ratings so i can have a better idea. thx also i'll give it a try.

PatCummings 01-25-2010 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamblin4ever
I don't know much about racing over there. Can you explain the ratings so i can have a better idea. thx also i'll give it a try.

The handicapper at the track assigns a numerical rating in an attempt to give the public an idea how this horse's form stacks up against others on the grounds, it's essentially a "handicap" weight similar to what you might see for 3YO on the Derby Trail....but for EVERY horse.

Some of the ratings are good, others are higher than I think they should be. Sometimes, one good performance in a quality race bloats your rating and its difficult to get it back down.

Midshipman is rated 113 while My Indy, winner of two legs of the Maktoum Challenge last year, is at 115. Halicarnassus, who freakishly won a turf race and was nowhere to be found (just about) before that or since then, is a 110. It's an attempt to judge the form for you so you don't level all the different form - all that being said, it's subjective and often up for debate.

my miss storm cat 01-26-2010 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings
Halicarnassus, who freakishly won a turf race and was nowhere to be found (just about) before that or since

Yeah but look what he can do. :p

"Halicarnassus is Halicarnassus, there are no secrets with him. He's been around the world and is as sound and fit as ever. He'll take in similar handicaps as he did last year with the long term target being the mile and a half Group Two on Super Thursday. He trains himself these days - he even books his flights himself online!" - Mick Channon

http://www.mickchannon.tv/index.php

My question / suggestion for Brock is this... should there be a selections thread as well as a chit chat thread for the people who are gonna make cheerleaderesque comments (you think Hali is bad? Wait till Youmzain gets over there! :eek: :{>: ) or is it easy enough for you to sort through the chatter? :D

Glad you're playing Gamblin4evah and you too Chuckles!

Jaripeo dear are you playing the first week or waiting?

chucklestheclown 01-26-2010 12:09 PM

When do the picks have to be in? Is first post about 22 hours from now like the DRC website says?

NoChanceToDance 01-26-2010 12:55 PM

mmsc, I'll still play in the first couple of weeks, but I won't be parting with my hard earned cash (unless the Brazilian filly goes in the 1,000 guineas trial on Thurs ;) )

Someone mentioned about ratings. I find they very inconsisent over there and there are some countries including Australia, and the South American countries where they seem to be marked down for no particular reason, giving those horses an advantage.

jaripeo 01-26-2010 01:46 PM

Jaripeo dear are you playing the first week or waiting?[/quote]

Dear MMST:
Since the first day of course I will playing.

I read something about the rating over there.

By the way, there is no more handicapping that the one you make for your on. If you dont know how to read the footnote jut dont cry for thinking about others tastes.

NoChanceToDance 01-26-2010 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
mmsc, I'll still play in the first couple of weeks, but I won't be parting with my hard earned cash (unless the Brazilian filly goes in the 1,000 guineas trial on Thurs ;) )

Someone mentioned about ratings. I find they very inconsisent over there and there are some countries including Australia, and the South American countries where they seem to be marked down for no particular reason, giving those horses an advantage.

I didn't see that De Kock filly lurking in there.......... she is very good, and I'm not sure the Brazilian filly is running.

PatCummings 01-26-2010 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
When do the picks have to be in? Is first post about 22 hours from now like the DRC website says?

First post is 6pm UAE time on Thursday, which is 2pm London, 9am New York.

my miss storm cat 01-26-2010 09:43 PM

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/brisw...9/summary.html

chucklestheclown 01-27-2010 05:59 AM

Not very scientific but I'll take Dettori's mount as my first horse in each race unless otherwise noted and my second choices are:
2nd-Raihana (NAP)-alt-Absolute Music
3rd-no Dettori-Proponent over Lizard's Desire-alt-King of Rome
4th-Noisy Silence-alt-Mulaquat
5th-No Dettori-Axiom over Rileys-alt-Good Control
6th-Art of War over (Whsipering Gallery) Detorri's mount-alt-With Interest
7th-My Indy over Frankie on Midshipman-alt-Gloria
8th-Sirocco Breeze (alternate nap) over Warsaw-alt-Green Coast (seems stylish)

I need to crush this "Bart" fellow so I'm editing in alternates, my nap (what does that stand for?), etc.

NoChanceToDance 01-27-2010 02:00 PM

We're not including the Pure Bred Arabian, are we? If we are I can add that a bit later on.....


R2 - Raihana (alt; Waasemah). Talenta (alt; Muntherah)

R3 - Tartan Gigha (NAP) (alt; Proponent). Lizard's Desire (alt; Good Again)

R4 - Bab Al Salam (alt; Drunken Sailor). Petrovsky (alt; Alcomo)

R5 - Aichi (alt; Desuetude). Star Crowned (alt; Prohibit)

R6 - Whispering Gallery (alt; Sopranist). Red Rock Canyon (alt; Art Of War)

R7 - My Indy (alt; Premio Loco). Forgotten Voice (alt; Otaared)

R8 - Sirocco Breeze (alt; Warsaw). Leahurst (alt; Jaasoos)


Good luck all, I have a feeling this first meeting could be tough. We'll know much more afterwards.

brockguy 01-27-2010 02:06 PM

Nope, just the throughbred races - so your picks are fine - except pick your NAP - same to you Chuckles..

PatCummings 01-27-2010 02:59 PM

2nd - Waasemah, Muntherah (ALT Talenta)
3rd - Good Again, Tartan Gigha (ALT Emerald Wilderness)
4th - Drunken Sailor, Bab Al Salam (ALT Petrovsky)
5th - Star Crowned, Rileyskeepingfaith (ALT Good Control)
6th - Khor Dubai, Whispering Gallery (ALT Art of War)
7th - Midshipman, My Indy (ALT Gloria De Campeao)
8th - Sirocco Breeze NAP, Green Coast (ALT Jaasoos)

Arletta 01-27-2010 04:05 PM

I missed this last year....:(

2) #13 Waasemah (alt:#4 Raihana)

3) #13 Good Again (alt:#3 Jaroslaw)

4) #5 Bab Al Salam (alt:#14 Petrovsky)

5) #3 Star Crowned (alt:#8 Good Control)

6) #8 Khor Dubai (alt:#4 Whispering Gallery)

7) #14 Midshipman (alt:#9 My Indy)

8) #4 Sirocco Breeze (alt:#2Mutheeb)

my miss storm cat 01-27-2010 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaripeo

By the way, there is no more handicapping that the one you make for your on. If you dont know how to read the footnote jut dont cry for thinking about others tastes.

Of course I agree with you dear one.

I changed my mind... I'll play this week.

R2... Diamond Laura (alt. Jodi)
R3... Clasp (alt. Lizard's Desire)
R4... Drunken Sailor (alt. Distinctive Image)
R5...If Iguazu Falls makes it in, he's my first choice*****. Rileyskeepingfaith
R6... Whispering Gallery (alt. Art of War)
R7... My Indy (alt. Without a Prayer)
R8... Green Coast (NAP) (alt. Lucky Find)

My alternate NAP is Whispering Gallery, in the event Green Coast scratches.

***** Brock how does this work (if our first choice is AE... do we list 2 or 3? Confused! :zz: :wf :D Thanks!)

brockguy 01-27-2010 04:49 PM

Grand to have you onboard Arletta - its a new style this year so you should make 2 selections per race (with an alternate) and make one of your horses your "Bet of the Day" or Nap..

brockguy 01-27-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

***** Brock how does this work (if our first choice is AE... do we list 2 or 3? Confused! :zz: :wf :D Thanks!)

Good Question. If your first choice is scratched, your 2nd then becomes your first and Alternate becomes your 2nd. If your second choice is scratched, your Alternate becomes 2nd choice. Thats a very Irish roundabout way of saying that your horses simply move to the left when writing in priority order..

my miss storm cat 01-27-2010 05:12 PM

Thanks Brock. So I'm assuming my AE is my alt...

Oh God we need 3 horses? Maybe I shoulda read the rules this year. :D

my miss storm cat 01-27-2010 05:26 PM

Okay here are my revised picks (with one slight revision and two picks / one alt. Doh!)

Good luck everyone and come home safe kids!

R2... Diamond Laura / Jodi (alt. Talenta)
R3... Clasp / Lizard's Desire (alt. King of Rome)
R4... Drunken Sailor / Distinctive Image (alt. Lindner)
R5...If Iguazu Falls makes it in, he's my first choice*****. Rileyskeepingfaith (alt. Musaalem)
R6... Whispering Gallery (alternate NAP!) / Art of War (alt. Halicarnassus)
R7... My Indy / Without a Prayer (alt. Consul General)
R8... Green Coast (NAP!!!) / Leahurst (alt. Lucky Find)

jaripeo 01-27-2010 06:32 PM

RACE 2 Talenta Absolute Music. (Alt Waasemah)

RACE 3 Imvula Clase (Alt Proponent)

RACE 4 Distinctive Image Lion Sands (Alt Alcomo)

RACE 5 Frosty Secret Aichi (Alt Star Crowned)

RACE 6 Topclass With Interest (Alt Khor Dubai)

RACE 7 Midshipman Consul General (Alt My Indy)

RACE 8 Sirocco Breeze (TAB) Leahurst (Alt Jaasoos)



Buena Suerte.......:)

mclem0822 01-27-2010 07:38 PM

I'll give it a whirl this year......
 
Race 2- #4 Raihana-#9 Muntherah (alt-#8 Diamond Laura)
Race 3- #13 Good Again-#1 King of Rome (alt-#3 Jaroslaw)
Race 4-#12 Distinctive Image-#5 Bab Al Salam (alt-#2 Mulaqat)
Race 5-#3 Star Crowned-#1 Aichi (alt-#6 Sir Gerry)
Race 6-#8 Khor Dubai(nap)-#4 Whispering Gallery(alt-#3 Topclas)
Race 7-#2 Consul General-#14 Midshipman(alt-#9 My Indy)
Race 8-#4 Sirocco Breeze-#6 Green Coast(alt-#3 Rocks Off)

Good Luck All!

PatCummings 01-27-2010 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mclem0822
Race 2- #4 Raihana-#9 Muntherah (alt-#8 Diamond Laura)
Race 3- #13 Good Again-#1 King of Rome (alt-#3 Jaroslaw)
Race 4-#12 Distinctive Image-#5 Bab Al Salam (alt-#2 Mulaqat)
Race 5-#3 Star Crowned-#1 Aichi (alt-#6 Sir Gerry)
Race 6-#8 Khor Dubai-#4 Whispering Gallery(alt-#3 Topclas)
Race 7-#2 Consul General-#14 Midshipman(alt-#9 My Indy)
Race 8-#4 Sirocco Breeze-#6 Green Coast(alt-#3 Rocks Off)

Good Luck All!

Think you might have something there with Consul General. Wise guy pick.

mclem0822 01-27-2010 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings
Think you might have something there with Consul General. Wise guy pick.

Thanks Pat. Hope he runs well, and make us both look wise. :D

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-27-2010 08:18 PM

2nd) Dawnbreak #7 - Raihana #4 (alt. #1)
3rd) Emerald Wilderness #2 - Tartan Gigha #9 (alt.#13)
4th) Bab Al Salam #5 (NAP) - Distinctive Imagine #12 (alt. #14)
5th) Indian Chant #13 - Frosty Secret #11 (alt. #3)
6th) Khor Dubai #8 - Art of War #6 (alt. #7)
7th) Midshipman #14 - Premio Loco #12 (alt. #8)
8th) Sirocco Breeze #4 - Mutheeb #2 (alt. #1)

The Bart 01-27-2010 08:41 PM

1st 2nd alt

2) #8 Diamond Laura #1 Talenta #5 Absolute Music

3) #13 Good Again #6 Imvula #1 Lizard's Desire

4) #2 Mulaqat #8 Princess Taylor #3 Alcomo

5) #9 Prohibit #2 Desuetude #5 Axiom

6) #9 Merchant Marine NAP #7 Eddie Jock #10 Red Rock Canyon

7) #11 Gloria de Campeao #14 Midshipman #3 Otaared
(ALT NAP)

8) #14 Seachantach #4 Shirroco Breeze #7 Jaasoos

my miss storm cat 01-27-2010 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arletta
I missed this last year....:(

I'm glad you're playing this time. :)

* * *

The Bart...

I'm impressed... it's your first post and you did it correctly whereas I screwed up immediately. :D

Welcome to the forum.

ryonker1 01-27-2010 09:09 PM

2nd Raihana,Talenta (alt: Dawnbreak)
3rd Proponent, Good Again (alt: Beauchamp Xerxes)
4th Bab al Salam, Drunken Sailor (alt Kaolak) (NAP)
5th Musaalem, Frosty Secret (alt Axiom)
6th Whispering Gallery, Art of War (alt Merchant Marine)
7th Midshipman, Gloria De Campaeo (alt Forgotten Voice)
8th Warsaw, Leahurst (alt Lucky Find)

thanks
Ron

chucklestheclown 01-27-2010 09:16 PM

I hope this edit goes through this time-
Quote:

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
Not very scientific but I'll take Dettori's mount as my first horse in each race unless otherwise noted and my second choices are:
2nd-Raihana-alt-Absolute Music
3rd-no Dettori-Proponent over Lizard's Desire-alt-King of Rome
4th-Noisy Silence-alt-Mulaquat
5th-No Dettori-Axiom over Rileys-alt-Good Control
6th-Art of War(NAP) over (Whsipering Gallery) Detorri's mount-alt-With Interest
7th-My Indy over Frankie on Midshipman-alt-Gloria
8th-Sirocco Breeze (alt nap) over Warsaw-alt-Green Coast (seems stylish)

I need to crush this "Bart" fellow so I'm editing in alternates, my nap (what does that stand for?), etc.


my miss storm cat 01-27-2010 09:19 PM

I don't know what exactly it stands for (wow that sounded illiterate :D ) but it means your best bet of the day. :)

chucklestheclown 01-27-2010 09:21 PM

I didn't see a chit-chat thrread so I asked here; I figured it must be an abbrevaition for something. As you are online, where is McEvoy(sp?)

my miss storm cat 01-27-2010 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
I didn't see a chit-chat thrread so I asked here; I figured it must be an abbrevaition for something. As you are online, where is McEvoy(sp?)

Here...:)

http://www.racingandsports.com.au/ra...sy_In_Zedative

chucklestheclown 01-27-2010 09:44 PM

Thanks. I was busy/sleeping this morning; last I remember Headache was about to race:o

gamblin4ever 01-27-2010 09:49 PM

R2- #8 Diamond Laura, #13 Waasemah
(alt) #9 Muntherah
R3- #4 Lizards Desire, #14 Takhir
(alt) #13 Good Again
R4- #5 Bab Al Salam, #10 Drunken Sailor
(alt) #9 Arqaam
R5- #8 Good Control, #1 Aichi
(alt) #11 Frosty Secret
R6- #4 Whispering Gallery (NAP), #9 Merchant Marine (alt) #11 Sopranist
R7- #2 Consul General, #9 My Indy
(alt) #14Midshipman
R8- #8 Leahurst, #4 Sirocco Breeze
(alt) #5 Warsaw


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