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zippyneedsawin 01-16-2010 03:14 PM

Zenyatta running in 2010
 
Zenyatta to race in 2010
By Brad Free

http://drf.com/news/article/110161.html

ARCADIA, Calif. - Zenyatta will run in 2010. Owners Jerry and Ann Moss told Daily Racing Form on Saturday that the undefeated 6-year-old mare will campaign this season. "We're going to run her," Jerry Moss said Saturday at Santa Anita.

It was widely believed that the Breeders' Cup Classic was going to be her final start, and Moss thought so, too. "I got very emotional after she won the Breeders' Cup and thought what better way to retire," Moss said. Zenyatta, however, bounced out of the Breeders' Cup in top shape and has posted three half-mile workouts at her Hollywood Park base recently. Jerry and Ann Moss visited Zenyatta on Saturday morning. "Seeing her today, she's so radiant," Ann Moss said.

The Mosses asked trainer John Sherriffs for his input, and he was fully supportive of running the mare in 2010. A comeback race for Zenyatta has yet to be determined as the Mosses statement on Saturday was the first official indication that she would continue racing. It will be up to the trainer to decide when and where she returns, Jerry Moss said.

randallscott35 01-16-2010 03:17 PM

But of course. Maybe she can win Horse of The Year.

Indian Charlie 01-16-2010 03:21 PM

While I applaud the decision, why all the lies and deceit all this time with her?

I think it was pretty obvious the whole time they were full of crap about why she was working out.

Hoist Her Flag 01-16-2010 03:24 PM

Well I do think they have figured out she won't win horse of the year. The upswell after the cup looked like she might have a chance. They still want the big prize horse of the year I guess? Or a crowd of 80,000 at some track.

Sightseek 01-16-2010 03:27 PM

:tro:

letswastemoney 01-16-2010 03:29 PM

Please Mosses....do the right thing and follow Rachel Alexandra to whichever race she goes in!!!!

So that there can be no debate anymore who is better! I like RA, but I just want the debate to end, even if Zenyatta beats her fair and square.

Indian Charlie 01-16-2010 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Please Mosses....do the right thing and follow Rachel Alexandra to whichever race she goes in!!!!

So that there can be no debate anymore who is better! I like RA, but I just want the debate to end, even if Zenyatta beats her fair and square.

Wouldn't be too surprised to see her stay in CA, then be retired before the BC, especially if RA shows up and is as dominant as she's been.

prudery 01-16-2010 03:54 PM

The Mosses did say she may run in 2010--if you cared to remember ...

There were no lies and deceits--just no direct answers til now, frustrating to be sure--it was just you guys that filled in the blanks and made the assumptions--like the parades were farewell parties ???

They did say that they were working her to " keep her happy ", but they never said that down the road they would race her for similar reasons ...

Be happy she will run, and remember, your assumptions have been off the board so far ...

RockHardTen1985 01-16-2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Wouldn't be too surprised to see her stay in CA, then be retired before the BC, especially if RA shows up and is as dominant as she's been.

That would be pointless... Unless it was Big Cap and Gold Cup, I am sure shes going to Dubai, No?

10 pnt move up 01-16-2010 03:57 PM

Who do we see first this year, Zenyatta or RA?

Sightseek 01-16-2010 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
Who do we see first this year, Zenyatta or RA?

Zenyatta.

jwkniska 01-16-2010 04:10 PM

The ? is..... will he be keep her in So Cal... or go race her on dirt?!

Z's alot better than avg horse, but want to see her win on dirt (or grass)... something other than synthetic, before she goes into the superhorse category (which most have already put her into).

prudery 01-16-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
That would be pointless... Unless it was Big Cap and Gold Cup, I am sure shes going to Dubai, No?

NO Dubai, as per Moss himself ...

Indian Charlie 01-16-2010 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prudery
The Mosses did say she may run in 2010--if you cared to remember ...

There were no lies and deceits--just no direct answers til now, frustrating to be sure--it was just you guys that filled in the blanks and made the assumptions--like the parades were farewell parties ???

They did say that they were working her to " keep her happy ", but they never said that down the road they would race her for similar reasons ...

Be happy she will run, and remember, your assumptions have been off the board so far ...

They also said she is still retired, not even a week ago.

They said one thing, than they said this, a week later. They were keeping her in training, so they were obviously giving it at least very serious consideration, for bringing her back. How is that not deceitful?

And how the hell have my 'assumptions' been off the board so far? What the fugg does that even mean?

Are you really that naive to believe the things you are saying?

You are probably the most ridiculous poster on all of DT.

eajinabi 01-16-2010 04:20 PM

Apple Blossom is the most logical choice for an RA-Zenyatta meeting.
Both raced at Oaklawn and won there before.

10 pnt move up 01-16-2010 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi
Apple Blossom is the most logical choice for an RA-Zenyatta meeting.
Both raced at Oaklawn and won there before.

lots of questions if RA will even be ready by then

eajinabi 01-16-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
lots of questions if RA will even be ready by then

Not Ready? She has been off since the Woodward at Saratoga. How long does she need?

randallscott35 01-16-2010 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prudery
The Mosses did say she may run in 2010--if you cared to remember ...

There were no lies and deceits--just no direct answers til now, frustrating to be sure--it was just you guys that filled in the blanks and made the assumptions--like the parades were farewell parties ???

They did say that they were working her to " keep her happy ", but they never said that down the road they would race her for similar reasons ...

Be happy she will run, and remember, your assumptions have been off the board so far ...

What planet do you live on?

Indian Charlie 01-16-2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35
What planet do you live on?

I think she lives on Planet Moss.

10 pnt move up 01-16-2010 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi
Not Ready? She has been off since the Woodward at Saratoga. How long does she need?

I will let the real reporters uncover that part, I only hear things and none of that is confirmed.

eajinabi 01-16-2010 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
While I applaud the decision, why all the lies and deceit all this time with her?

I think it was pretty obvious the whole time they were full of crap about why she was working out.

Lies, deciet?? What are you talking about?? You are talking as if this is some sort of political election. What are they to gain if they kept this news a secret until now?

Sightseek 01-16-2010 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
I will let the real reporters uncover that part, I only hear things and none of that is confirmed.

Does it make you feel important that you think you have racetrack gossip?

prudery 01-16-2010 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
They also said she is still retired, not even a week ago.

They said one thing, than they said this, a week later. They were keeping her in training, so they were obviously giving it at least very serious consideration, for bringing her back. How is that not deceitful?

And how the hell have my 'assumptions' been off the board so far? What the fugg does that even mean?

Are you really that naive to believe the things you are saying?

You are probably the most ridiculous poster on all of DT.


You have the worst reading comprehension issues I have ever seen ...

It was assumed she was retired, and they constantly fielded the question--that's what the frig your assumptions got you---the inability to perceive the less-than -obvious ...

You also do not consider the possibilty that the Mosses were undecided about whether to retire her or not, and kept the horse in training until they did ??? And annoyingly fluffed direct answers ..

Your peurile comment about who is a ridiculous poster deserves you a hand mirror ...

I am at least willing to read or listen to caca and respond to it somewhat civilly without pitching monkey poo ...

Clearly you are not ...

It is hardly ridiculous to examine all possibilities when the probabilities are not made clear by the only people that count here---the connections ...

BTW---It was the headline in the racing publication that Zenyatta was still retired, made by the reporter . Read it

10 pnt move up 01-16-2010 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
Does it make you feel important that you think you have racetrack gossip?

yes....of course...I live for it. I have said nothing other than lets see if she makes the apple blossom.

Slewbopper 01-16-2010 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
While I applaud the decision, why all the lies and deceit all this time with her?

I think it was pretty obvious the whole time they were full of crap about why she was working out.

Jesus...why all the pissing and moaning? Be happy that for once we have two superstars returning for another year.

RockHardTen1985 01-16-2010 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi
Lies, deciet?? What are you talking about?? You are talking as if this is some sort of political election. What are they to gain if they kept this news a secret until now?

From what I here its all part of his act.

Indian Charlie 01-16-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prudery
You have the worst reading comprehension issues I have ever seen ...

It was assumed she was retired, and they constantly fielded the question--that's what the frig your assumptions got you---the inability to perceive the less-than -obvious ...

You also do not consider the possibilty that the Mosses were undecided about whether to retire her or not, and kept the horse in training until they did ??? And annoyingly fluffed direct answers ..

Your peurile comment about who is a ridiculous poster deserves you a hand mirror ...

I am at least willing to read or listen to caca and respond to it somewhat civilly without pitching monkey poo ...

Clearly you are not ...

It is hardly ridiculous to examine all possibilities when the probabilities are not made clear by the only people that count here---the connections ...

BTW---It was the headline in the racing publication that Zenyatta was still retired, made by the reporter . Read it


If I have reading comprehension issues than you certainly have hearing comprehension issues.

They repeatedly said she was retired. As in the Mosses said she was retired. How is it that you keep failing to grasp that they have said she is retired? How does that translate to me not being able to understand what I read?

Your constant denying of reality and making up a fantasy to deflect your hostility at me is really hard for me to understand. I'll give you that.

And yeah, I get it. They were undecided about keeping her in training. Hence my question in the first place. If they were, at the very least, undecided, why the constant denying that she might race again? Why stick to your guns that she is retired. This isn't some writer making this up, these were point blank questions that they answered and until just a few days ago, they were insistent she is retired.

Slewbopper. I'm just sick of people, especially in the media, not being able to say what they mean and mean what they say. The Mosses and Sherriffs have been playing games with the truth all last year in how they discussed Zenyatta with the press.

For nearly a year now, they've not been able to give a straight answer.

How is that ok?

And yet again, if you read my first post, I did preface my complaint by saying I'm happy that they have decided to continue to race her. Why all the subterfuge though?

Indian Charlie 01-16-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
From what I here its all part of his act.

LOL. That is precious Joseph.

I would take anything Doug says with a pound of salt, as he will say pretty much anything he needs to say to help himself.

RockHardTen1985 01-16-2010 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
LOL. That is precious Joseph.

I would take anything Doug says with a pound of salt, as he will say pretty much anything he needs to say to help himself.

Do not call me Joseph.
Doug and I have plans next weekend, MAN DATE PART 2.

Indian Charlie 01-16-2010 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Do not call me Joseph.
Doug and I have plans next weekend, MAN DATE PART 2.

Can do Josephine.

GenuineRisk 01-16-2010 06:20 PM

I don't care if they were lying, undecided or simply changed their minds. I'm just glad she's running this year. Assuming Summer Bird comes back, when was the last time the winners of all three Triple Crown races and the BCC winner all returned the next year? Good racing luck to all of them in 2010!

prudery 01-16-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
If I have reading comprehension issues than you certainly have hearing comprehension issues.

They repeatedly said she was retired. As in the Mosses said she was retired. How is it that you keep failing to grasp that they have said she is retired? How does that translate to me not being able to understand what I read?

Your constant denying of reality and making up a fantasy to deflect your hostility at me is really hard for me to understand. I'll give you that.

And yeah, I get it. They were undecided about keeping her in training. Hence my question in the first place. If they were, at the very least, undecided, why the constant denying that she might race again? Why stick to your guns that she is retired. This isn't some writer making this up, these were point blank questions that they answered and until just a few days ago, they were insistent she is retired.

Slewbopper. I'm just sick of people, especially in the media, not being able to say what they mean and mean what they say. The Mosses and Sherriffs have been playing games with the truth all last year in how they discussed Zenyatta with the press.

For nearly a year now, they've not been able to give a straight answer.

How is that ok?

And yet again, if you read my first post, I did preface my complaint by saying I'm happy that they have decided to continue to race her. Why all the subterfuge though?


If you say so, et al---I don't ...

Glad you are so happy---perhaps then, you will not qualify your happiness ad nauseum then ...

RockHardTen1985 01-16-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Can do Josephine.

Joe, Joey or King.

Coach Pants 01-16-2010 06:34 PM

How about punchy?

Smooth Operator 01-16-2010 06:35 PM

No surprise

They want a piece of that over-hyped Alexander filly… :cool:

Indian Charlie 01-16-2010 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator
No surprise

They want a piece of that over-hyped Alexander filly… :cool:

You know, that's what I was thinking too (facing RA that is, not the hype part).

Then I heard Moss being interviewed over the phone on TVG and he said facing RA this year had nothing to do with his decision to race her some more.

He did seem to indicate they were open to shipping this year.

Who knows.

Indian Charlie 01-16-2010 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Joe, Joey or King.

Josephina.

How'd your non existent date1 go?

Coach Pants 01-16-2010 06:55 PM

A bs injury will prevent these two from meeting.

prudery 01-16-2010 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
A bs injury will prevent these two from meeting.

Sadly it is a distinct possibility but hoping not...

freddymo 01-16-2010 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
A bs injury will prevent these two from meeting.

Let's hope it happens


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