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GPK 01-11-2010 02:37 PM

McGuire admits it
 
I'm shocked.

MaTH716 01-11-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I'm shocked.

I guess he got the message that he wasn't getting into the Hall of Fame without an admission. It remains to be seen if he will get in now.

GPK 01-11-2010 02:47 PM

"After all this time, I want to come clean. I was not in a position 5 years ago in my congressional testimony,m but now I feel an obligation to discuss this and to answer questions about it. I'll do that, and then I just want to help my team"

Translated it sounds more like "kiss my ass, the only reason I'm admitting this is because Mr. DeWitt has brought me back into the game that I cheated for many years. If he doesn't bring me back to the game, I deny it to my grave."

slotdirt 01-11-2010 03:08 PM

Who is this McGuire? Paul?

Gander 01-11-2010 03:10 PM

He wasnt even that great of a player, steroids or not.

AeWingnut 01-11-2010 03:37 PM

How quickly people forget

at the time few cared about baseball
the bogus home run derby brought baseball back to the fore

they sure were quick to throw
McQuire and Sosa under the bus.

ingrates

herkhorse 01-11-2010 03:48 PM

I'd rather see Rose get in than this bum.

Scav 01-11-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I guess he got the message that he wasn't getting into the Hall of Fame without an admission. It remains to be seen if he will get in now.

He was never going to get in before, and will never get in now.

And it is quite possible that they will mess around with his tainted HR record also

Gander 01-11-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
I'd rather see Rose get in than this bum.

Rose was ten times the player, but sadly not the kind of guy you'd want as a best friend. He deserves in for what he did on the field.
Mcgwire needs a new optometrist. Those glasses he wears are 10 times too small for that oversized head.

Scav 01-11-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Who is this McGuire? Paul?

This is what happens when a golfer talks about other sports

randallscott35 01-11-2010 03:57 PM

The whole era is ruined in terms of numbers. Don't let anyone into the Hall.

Gander 01-11-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
The whole era is ruined in terms of numbers. Don't let anyone into the Hall.

Thats a wonderful plan. Penalize Derek Jeter, one of the best SS of all time for dopes like this creep. Penalize Albert the great too.

randallscott35 01-11-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Thats a wonderful plan. Penalize Derek Jeter, one of the best SS of all time for dopes like this creep. Penalize Albert the great too.

I think Albert uses. So do fellow players who knew him in high school.

Danzig 01-11-2010 04:03 PM

news alert: the earth is not flat.

Crown@club 01-11-2010 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I'm shocked.

McGwire did steroids???? Are you pulling my leg??? This has to be a joke?!!! NO WAY!!!

As we look forward: After 3 years of not being voted in the MLB Hall of Fame, Barry Bonds admits that he did take Human Growth Hormone and Steroids.

"There was no way I was going to let a cheating <bleep> white guy have the Home Run Record," said an unapologetic Bonds. "Thats why after 1998, I went to my trainers to test this stuff out and see if it could actually help me pass that cheating <bleep>."

randallscott35 01-11-2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
Harsh.

lol

Riot 01-11-2010 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
I'm shocked.

My gawd, your daughter is pretty :)

ninetoone 01-11-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
news alert: the earth is not flat.

and water is wet...

Bigsmc 01-11-2010 05:57 PM

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Penalize Albert the great too.

Belle?

Attachment 1427

Scav 01-11-2010 06:12 PM

On MLB Network right now

2MinsToPost 01-11-2010 06:36 PM

I could care less about his admission of the obvious and wish him well

What a great game on now - Louisville vs Villanova

College B Ball:tro:

alysheba4 01-11-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Thats a wonderful plan. Penalize Derek Jeter, one of the best SS of all time for dopes like this creep. Penalize Albert the great too.

.....i wouldnt be shocked about " albert the great " the whole testing thing is a complete joke.......the drug of choice for the past few years
is HGH. they CANT EVEN TEST FOR IT. the morons that get tested for the old school steroids are beyond fcked up.

hi_im_god 01-11-2010 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
"After all this time, I want to come clean. I was not in a position 5 years ago in my congressional testimony,m but now I feel an obligation to discuss this and to answer questions about it. I'll do that, and then I just want to help my team"

Translated it sounds more like "kiss my ass, the only reason I'm admitting this is because Mr. DeWitt has brought me back into the game that I cheated for many years. If he doesn't bring me back to the game, I deny it to my grave."

he wasn't offered immunity for his testimony before congress. his refusal to discuss steroids at the time makes a lot more sense in light of that. he was basically given the choice of admitting a criminal act with no guarantee he wouldn't be prosecuted, committing perjury, or doing what he did.

i need to do some research and resurrect the barry bonds threads from a few years back. people were still insisting there was no proof he used the year he broke mcguire's "record".

those would be fun to see again.

Storm Cadet 01-12-2010 08:34 AM

Now the MLB office needs to restore the HR records back to it's rightfull owners:
Hank Aaron and Roger Maris. Put the freakin asterisk next to the names of all those cheaters who presently hold them!

hockey2315 01-12-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
He was never going to get in before, and will never get in now.

And it is quite possible that they will mess around with his tainted HR record also

They're not going to mess with his home run record. . . especially considering he doesn't hold the record anymore. They would have to basically wipe an entire era of baseball from the record books.

randallscott35 01-12-2010 02:08 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4819250

Gander 01-12-2010 03:22 PM

That Larussa interview this morning was appaling. What a liar! Why did they even bother to have that clown on at all when they knew he has his own agenda and would defend Mcgwire to the end of the earth.

The only one telling the truth throughout all this is Jose Canseco.

Danzig 01-12-2010 04:54 PM

remember when canseco was being crucified by any and everyone back when his tell all came out?? lol who'd have thought then he'd end up being able to laugh last?

Bigsmc 01-12-2010 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
remember when canseco was being crucified by any and everyone back when his tell all came out?? lol who'd have thought then he'd end up being able to laugh last?

I think he was being crucified for breaking the unwritten, "what happens in the clubhouse stays in the clubhouse" rule. He was ratting out his fellow players and that did not go over well at all.

I didn't doubt that he exaggerated a bit on some things, but the fact that nobody that he named in the book legally came after him, should tell you all you need to know.

golfer 01-12-2010 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
I think he was being crucified for breaking the unwritten, "what happens in the clubhouse stays in the clubhouse" rule. He was ratting out his fellow players and that did not go over well at all.

I didn't doubt that he exaggerated a bit on some things, but the fact that nobody that he named in the book legally came after him, should tell you all you need to know.

I don't think he was exaggerating. I was told by someone who played in the 90's that steroids were anything but a secret. The players Association basically met with each team in spring training to discuss the do's and don'ts (not literally, but figuratively). After that, it was a matter of each individual deciding to use or not.

Bottom line here is anyone involved in baseball at that time that claims they knew nothing about the topic is LYING!


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