The Mighty French Un Force
 

of 200, more than 50 times fewer than they promised, will be taking there time getting into Lebanon. What a friggin joke. They whine, promise 10,000 troops for disarmament of Hezbollah. NOw they will send an entire boyscout troop, and the troops will have NO MANDATE TO DISARM ANYONE.

Again. For those of you who think diplomatic solutions will be adhered to... what a friggin joke. They whine, cry and yell and then when it comes time to stand up and play the part you promised...

Oh yes. There is some good news. Malaysia has announced they will be happy to send 10,000 troops. Israel has politely declined as Malaysia DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE EXISTENCE OF ISRAEL. Can you imagine how harsh the Israelis are for turning them down. What a suprise!

The UN again and again is proving worthless. It needs to exist, but only for polite chats and expensive dinners. It is clearly a place for DISCUSSION ONLY.
God I hate liars. I cannot stand inaction. If I personally say I am going to do something by God I am going to do my best to try and do it. This crapola is totally against my nature.
This is so sad and so predictable. Round 2 awaits. If you think this latest little skirmish was bad, just wait. I dont know when, and I dont know how, but a whole bunch of Lebanese are going to be slaughtered. Can you imagine why Israel has reason not to trust the UN...

i have to admit i laughed yesterday when i read about the 'french led u.n. force'...about the only thing france knows how to lead is a retreat. ah, the irony of it all.

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Pgardn,
I find a lot in your post to agree with.
Here's a thought, France has trade involvements with many Arab countries.
I'd even venture that they have more "credibility" in the region than many, if not all, "western" countries. The US has thrown away their "neutral" status.
If France can establish itself in that role, it's to the US's advantage.
There are strategies going on behind the scenes.
France is "dragging their heels", but that plays to Israel's advantage. It buys time. In the meanwhile, Italy is sending 3,000 peace keepers. Hmmm..do they want a slice of the pie?
Now here's a question...where is Hezbollah getting the $12K they're dishing out to the Lebanese people whose houses have been bombed in Beirut?
That makes me very curious.
Finally, regarding the UN...let them have some time to do what they know they must. If in the end, they are successful, it's not only Israel that will trust them, but also many other nations. If they fail...too horrible to consider.

After losing wars to the British, Austrians, Mexicans, Prussians, Germans, Egyptians, Vietnamese, and Algerians ... the frogs are on a 200-year schneid.

Maybe gelding would help ... or perhaps reverse-gelding?

Yes but DTS they try and present themselves as an above our understanding moral authority to the world. This was a politically laughable move. The self-righteous nature of this country makes me want to gag. They have proven themselves 10X worse than our country with this latest piece of stupidity.

Good lord they had Muslims kids burning down the outskirts of Paris and they had not a clue as to why it was happening or how to stop it.

Why don't they send the French Foreign Legion?

Those are supposed to be some bad mfers.

http://www.info-france-usa.org/atoz/legion/index.asp

That's actually a good idea...correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it a requirement to join the French Foreign Legion that one NOT be a French citizen? If so, that would explain their reputation as an actual fighting force!

that's correct, hence the name french Foreign legion.

Haunted by their experiences in Bosnia in the 1990’s, when their forces were unable to stop widespread ethnic killing, European governments are insisting upon clarifying the chain of command and rules of engagement before plunging into the even greater complexities of the Middle East.

“In the past, when peacekeeping missions were not properly defined, we’ve seen major failures,’’ a spokeswoman for the French Foreign Ministry, Agnès Romatet-Espagne, said Sunday. “There are the bad memories of Bosnia. This time we want the answers beforehand, so we don’t come to the problems when they have happened.’’



Well thanks for letting us know now that Europe committed all these troops and now is backing out. Worthless... honestly. Bosnia got solved by the US basically bombing the holy crap out of the Serbs. And of course the Europeans wanted US troops in their own back yard for this particular event.

Sickening.
So you see why UN resolutions are worthless and why Israel gets 13-1 votes. Folks it is very clear that these "peace" missions require the use of force like it or not. We sent in 120,000 troops to Iraq to find WMD's. We found nothing cause they were not there. And then we say ok we are here lets get rid of Saddam.

We needed 350,000 troops to do the job in the first place. I hate war and I hate seeing people die but the hammer has to come down in order not extend the death toll of innocent lives caused by chaos when the rule of law breaks down. It is very clear that overwhelming force can actually save lives. Sad but true. Ah just leave all these dictators in place, they prevent all the ethnic hatred from coming out by making everyone hate them. What a mess.

It's us, the British ... and some of their former colonies ... and the Israelis ... who stand between civilization and savagery. Literally.

The Euroweenies and Eurotrash are totally useless ... living on delusions of past glories that really never were.

It's amazing that the feeble-minded can only use their hatred of all things and all people not Israeli to help them understand the world.

Israelis + British + U.S. does not a world make.

Where the hell were the Israelis when the "Internaltional Coalition" was formed to mobilize into Iraq?

Hell, there were 50 more Armenians in the Iraq coalition than Israelis.

By the way, there were a total of 50 Armenians in the coalition.

You do the rest of the math, if you're not too feeble to do it.

If I remember correctly, the Israelis were requested to stay out of the Iraq affair..

Ez

lol, the conversation went like this:

Israel: we don't want to go into Iraq.

U.S: Well, will you stay away then?

Israel: Yes. Thank you.

I doubt that happened. At the time, Iraq was dropping Scuds into Israel, and they were ready to go... once again, to defend themselves.

Ez

even more reasonable justification for the Izzys to want to participate in the Caolition. "Fight them where they are," and all that stuff. You may buy it, but I don't. Just a difference of opinion, I suppose.

Good editorial on France's waffling; I don't think anyone who's posted so far will disagree (other than BB, because though he won't read it because it's in the NYTimes it won't stop him from criticizing what he imagined it said. :) )

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/21/op...=1&oref=slogin

I think the French are being a royal pain in the neck over this, but can we stop the moldy old "If not for us they'd be speaking German!" line of "cowardly French" bashing? Yes, and if not for the French, we'd be singing "God Save the Queen." So it's all relative, depending on how far back in history you're willing to go. And we didn't go in to WW2 to save the French; we went in because we were attacked ourselves and they didn't go into the colonies on our side because they believed in self-determination; they went in to f*ck over the British. Can we keep the argument focused on what they're screwing up now, and not what they screwed up 50 years ago, please? :) Because I appreciate reading everyone's points of view; this whole mess is so complicated I don't know what to think or believe anymore...

But ... but ... but ... but ...

... what about the fashionable leftist canard that "Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11"?

Yup ... and Hitler had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor ... so ... should we have not gone to war against Germany?

Huh? Huh? Huh?

And ... does the same logic apply to Israel going to war because it was attacked?

Huh? Huh? Huh?

Sheesh ... see the trouble you get into when you try to defend the indefensible frogs?

The New York Times and the French ...

... the reprehensible supporting the indefensible.

The insane defending the delusional.
Only a true idiot would try to connect Pearl Harbor=Hitler with Saddam=9/11.
The blind leading the blind.
Take your meds, Boldfraud, your hallucinations are showing, not your "logic".

Huh? Huh? Huh?

we saved frenchy butt in both world wars, and they were the ones who started all that mess known as vietnam....not that it has anything to do with NOW....but it's still fun to poke at them about it all.

STS with all due respect that would have been insane political suicide. You have to remember Iraq actually fired Scud missles into Israel to draw them into the war to get the rest of the Arab world behind them. What did we tell the Israeli's ? Bite your tongue and dont fight back. And you know what the Israelis did... All got their gas masks on because no one knew for sure what the Scuds were carrying. And sat there and took it.

I dare anyone to present a situation in which a country purposely fires missles into the US without our even being in the conflict and see how long we bite our tongues... For God sake there is no way we would show the restraint Israel has.

Well, great to see you've taken your daily dose of hatred medication today.

Kach Kahane and Chai must be terribly proud of you.

Leave it to the Israelis to let the Armenians and others do their heavy lifting.

BB, Saddam didn't have anything to do with 9/11. Even the object of your unbridled lust, Dubya, said as much in yesterday's press conference.

Jeez louise, is this the current state of conservative thought? When the truth is considered "fashionable leftist canard?" Oh right, I'm in the "reality-based" community. I keep forgetting.

Please indicate where in my post I said we should not have gone into WWII. I await your response with bated breath.

In fact, BB, just for you, I just watched the video of the press conference (see what I'll do for you? I'll even spend precious minutes of my life that I'll never get back watching that gibbering idiot talk out of both sides of his mouth just so I can quote him exactly for you). Here you go:

( begins with Bush responding to an inaudible question from reporter)
Bush: "What did Iraq have to do with what?"
Reporter: "The attack on the World Trade Center."
Bush: "Nothing."

GRisk,
Your mistake is trying to talk sensibly to him. It doesn't work.

I thought Bush was fairly frank yesterday. At least he's off the "We're winning" schtick.

On the other hand, Dick Cheney noted yesterday that a vote for Ned Lamont in Connecticut "will provide encouragement for Al Qaeda."

Wha huh?

Oh, Dick, Dick. You're right; Americans going out and voting for whom they want is EXACTLY the kind of thing to encourage terrorists, so we'd just best shut up and pull the lever for whomever you tell us to, eh, Mr. VP? What kind of government does this remind me of...

It's funny-- we poke fun at the French for cowardice (and yes, despite my lecture yesterday I do find a lot of the jokes on that topic pretty funny-- check one of my earlier threads on that--) but our government has done a marvelous job in scaring us into handing over our own liberties to an adminstration determined to do away with personal freedom. Wiretapping? Okay! Torture? Sure! Holding people for months with no access to a lawyer and with no charges? Heck, we'll re-elect you for that! Took the French 25,000 Germans; took us 19 hijackers. When do our freedoms become more important to us than our fears?

Okay, 'fess up, BB-- you're really one of our liberal members, out to further the liberal cause by portraying conservatives as incoherent, aren't you? It's cute and funny, but I think it's rather unfair to conservatives, many of whom are very eloquent, well-thought people.

Sorry, hon ... but ...

... once again you missed the point. Let me try it again ... in baby-er talk ...

Hitler had nothing to do with Pearl Harbor ... yet we immediately went to war with Germany ... with the enthusiastic support of leftists.

Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 ... yet our much-more-belated war with Iraq ... has been condemned by leftists ... because? ... because Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11!

Now do you understand? The laughable hypocrisy of the leftists would shame anyone ... anyone that is ... who is capable of experiencing shame ... which leaves out nearly all leftists.

Gee, kid ... you're really on a hot streak of missing points.

Cheney was pointing the finger at the ultraleftist democrats who created the loopy Mr. Lament ... not at all Connecticut voters ...

... a majority of whom will shove it back into the ultraleftists' faces this Fall ... by re-electing Joe Loserman.

Now do you get it?

All right, STS? DTS? 'Fess up. It's you, isn't it? This can't possibly be considered debate. Stop making fun of conservatives! It's not nice!

lol. no, not me. I'm a conservative myself. However, Bold B, is just an uber izzyin, Arab hatin, dixie porter a ss-lickin, george bush worshipin, small dik on-the-table-a-thumpin fool.

You cannot speak common sense to a fool. Pity the fool. Suffer the fool. Save the common sense.

GR
It's not me either.
I couldn't possibly come up with the nonsensical stuff he comes up with if I really tried. And then to state it in such a condescening manner...too far out for me.
DTS

Ahh ... such a girl ... such a girl ...

... can't be logical ... can't be creative ... can't be innovative ... gets the vapors ... and screams for help from big dumb oxen ...

... very cute and lovable in its own way.