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randallscott35 01-03-2010 10:00 PM

Jets In Playoffs
 
Be afraid. Be very afraid.

gales0678 01-03-2010 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Be afraid. Be very afraid.

are you joking

best OL in football , arguably the best defense in the league right now

Superbowl not out of the question

dalakhani 01-03-2010 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Be afraid. Be very afraid.

There really is nothing to be afraid of. That QB will turn the ball over at least 3 times next week.

I am very interested in seeing what the oddsmakers open the line at. I am imagining Cincy -4

dalakhani 01-03-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
are you joking

best OL in football , arguably the best defense in the league right now

Superbowl not out of the question

Where do you come up with this stuff? It is highly entertaining.

gales0678 01-03-2010 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Where do you come up with this stuff? It is highly entertaining.

#1 rushing team in the nfl that's where

who is running the football better tha this team right now ????

dalakhani 01-03-2010 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
#1 rushing team in the nfl that's where

who is running the football better tha this team right now ????

Miami's line blocked run better than this line.

randallscott35 01-03-2010 10:32 PM

Gales, I am a Jet fan.

randallscott35 01-03-2010 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Miami's line blocked run better than this line.

Where are they again?

dalakhani 01-03-2010 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Where are they again?

Its not all about running the ball. Im not a miami fan. Im just making a simple point.

Tennessee's line blocked run better as well. So did Dallas's for that matter.

gales0678 01-03-2010 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Miami's line blocked run better than this line.


miami didn't make it last i checked

and they arent the #1 rushing team in the league , but there is no point talking to you about it , i'll leave it to chirs collinsworth who said this was the best OL he has seen all year , but let me guess he's an idiot too

gales0678 01-03-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Its not all about running the ball. Im not a miami fan. Im just making a simple point.

Tennessee's line blocked run better as well. So did Dallas's for that matter.


again who is the #1 rushing team in the league , if the jets had s jax or CJ they would be going to the super bowl with this ol and d , sanchez wouldn't have to throw it , that being said i don't think anyone wants to see them right now the way this d is playing

dalakhani 01-03-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
miami didn't make it last i checked

and they arent the #1 rushing team in the league , but there is no point talking to you about it , i'll leave it to chirs collinsworth who said this was the best OL he has seen all year , but let me guess he's an idiot too

Collinsworth is entitled to his opinion as are you although I would bet that im not the only one that would accuse Collinsworth of shortsighted hyperbole.

If you are talking about teams that made it to the playoffs, I think the Cowboys have a better line as well as the chargers.

Miami is the best run blocking line I saw this year with Tennessee next.

dalakhani 01-03-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
again who is the #1 rushing team in the league , if the jets had s jax or CJ they would be going to the super bowl with this ol and d , sanchez wouldn't have to throw it , that being said i don't think anyone wants to see them right now the way this d is playing

Dude they have run the ball over SIXTY more times than the next closest team. They ran the ball NINETY more times than Tennesee but yet still finished with only 40 more yards.

They backed into the playoffs by beating two teams that rolled over. Would you like to wager straight up on next week's game?

gales0678 01-03-2010 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Collinsworth is entitled to his opinion as are you although I would bet that im not the only one that would accuse Collinsworth of shortsighted hyperbole.

If you are talking about teams that made it to the playoffs, I think the Cowboys have a better line as well as the chargers.

Miami is the best run blocking line I saw this year with Tennessee next.

again who is the #1 rushing team in the league , let's keep it plain and simple ??? maybe this question is too simple for someone inside the beltway ? do you need it in a more complex way so you can shoot out an answer that nobody will understand?

you think the chargers are better with their OL do you ? well do you think defenses in the nfl play the jets and the chargers the same way?

gales0678 01-03-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Dude they have run the ball over SIXTY more times than the next closest team. They ran the ball NINETY more times than Tennesee but yet still finished with only 40 more yards.

They backed into the playoffs by beating two teams that rolled over. Would you like to wager straight up on next week's game?


chris johnson > thomas jones?

sure the jets are +4 , you going to give up the points?

dalakhani 01-03-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
again who is the #1 rushing team in the league , let's keep it plain and simple ??? maybe this question is too simple for someone inside the beltway ? do you need it in a more complex way so you can shoot out an answer that nobody will understand?

you think the chargers are better with their OL do you ? well do you think defenses in the nfl play the jets and the chargers the same way?

LOL I actually live outside the beltway but that was funny. Cheers.

As for "#1 rushing team" I think it would depend on which stat. Total yards? Jets! yards per attempt? Tennesee, dallas, carolina, new orleans.

Tennesee ran the ball 460 times for 2459 yards. The yets 550 times for 2499.

Who was the better rushing team?????????

And do we have a bet?

dalakhani 01-03-2010 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
chris johnson > thomas jones?

sure the jets are +4 , you going to give up the points?

Is that the line?

gales0678 01-03-2010 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
LOL I actually live outside the beltway but that was funny. Cheers.

As for "#1 rushing team" I think it would depend on which stat. Total yards? Jets! yards per attempt? Tennesee, dallas, carolina, new orleans.

Tennesee ran the ball 460 times for 2459 yards. The yets 550 times for 2499.

Who was the better rushing team?????????

And do we have a bet?


wow that was quick , please strip out some of VY carries or at least 90% of his yardage since they were not designed runs but rather him scrambling

dalakhani 01-03-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
wow that was quick , please strip out some of VY carries or at least 90% of his yardage since they were not designed runs but rather him scrambling

Why is there always an excuse with you? Favre has a good year? Its because of Adrian Peterson. Tennessee's line blocks well enough that a guy gets 2000 yards but yet you attribute it to the QB. Get real.

You live in this weird world of "ifs". It is a world I try to stay out of. IF Ronnie Brown doesnt get injured, how many more yards do the fish run for? How many more yards do the cowboys run for IF they had an offensive coordinator with a brain and IF their backs could stay healthy?
I can play that game as well.

The facts are the facts. You have these opinions of the jets but I think they are fraudulent and I am willing to back that with a wager...a straight up wager.

Do you want to make that bet...just fifty dollars...or are you going to be a chicken?

gales0678 01-03-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Why is there always an excuse with you? Favre has a good year? Its because of Adrian Peterson. Tennessee's line blocks well enough that a guy gets 2000 yards but yet you attribute it to the QB. Get real.

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

You live in this weird world of "ifs". It is a world I try to stay out of. IF Ronnie Brown doesnt get injured, how many more yards do the fish run for? How many more yards do the cowboys run for IF they had an offensive coordinator with a brain and IF their backs could stay healthy?
I can play that game as well.

The facts are the facts. You have these opinions of the jets but I think they are fraudulent and I am willing to back that with a wager...a straight up wager.

Do you want to make that bet...just fifty dollars...or are you going to be a chicken?


chris johnson is the best back in the league hands down , not knocking him at all , but , when you bring in total yds you do relaize VY played half they year and had over 280 yds rushing , sanchez had 104 yrds in all 16 games

i'm not knocking cj at all , i'm poiniting out your yardage total for the titans includes an extra 280 yds of scrambles from VY

are you going to give up the points in the wager?

dalakhani 01-03-2010 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
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chris johnson is the best back in the league hands down , not knocking him at all , but , when you bring in total yds you do relaize VY played half they year and had over 280 yds rushing , sanchez had 104 yrds in all 16 games

i'm not knocking cj at all , i'm poiniting out your yardage total for the titans includes an extra 280 yds of scrambles from VY

are you going to give up the points in the wager?

What about Peterson? Is he chopped liver now? A couple of weeks ago, he was the root of Favre's success. LOL

The dolphins were the leading rushing team in the league when ronnie brown went down.

And why do you need points? You say the jets are going to win. How about 70 to 50? That would be a +140 money line for you which is probably about where it will be.

Deal?

ateamstupid 01-03-2010 11:24 PM

:)

Just back from the game. I'm definitely not gonna go overboard, I'll just say that I think the Jets are capable of beating just about anybody in the field if they run the ball and play defense to their capability. No guarantees or Super Bowl dreams yet, but I don't think they're the pushovers people made them out to be. However, if David Harris is seriously hurt, we're one and done. He was back on the sidelines, anybody get a word on his injury?

Hickory Hill Hoff 01-03-2010 11:26 PM

Congrats Jets fans..........and good luck.

gales0678 01-03-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
What about Peterson? Is he chopped liver now? A couple of weeks ago, he was the root of Favre's success. LOL

The dolphins were the leading rushing team in the league when ronnie brown went down.

And why do you need points? You say the jets are going to win. How about 70 to 50? That would be a +140 money line for you which is probably about where it will be.

Deal?

a little higher (ex oregeon was -4 in rose bowl and was -200 and osu was +170) , you not only insult me , now you going to try and rob me too

dalakhani 01-03-2010 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
a little higher (ex oregeon was -4 in rose bowl and was -200 and osu was +170) , you not only insult me , now you going to try and rob me too

LOL. Who said the line was 4? That was a guess on my part but Im probably wrong. I would have never guessed the pats laying but 4 points to the ravens. I would have figured that game about a touchdown.

The money line isnt directly related to the spread.

gales0678 01-03-2010 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
LOL. Who said the line was 4? That was a guess on my part but Im probably wrong. I would have never guessed the pats laying but 4 points to the ravens. I would have figured that game about a touchdown.

The money line isnt directly related to the spread.


welker is out who is going to make all the catches for brady now ???

the ravens should beat the pats

i'll put a * on the raven game though because the zebras can always save the game for the pats (see the game in oct with all the phony calls to get ne home)

dalakhani 01-03-2010 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
welker is out who is going to make all the catches for brady now ???

the ravens should beat the pats

i'll put a * on the raven game though because the zebras can always save the game for the pats (see the game in oct with all the phony calls to get ne home)

I like the pats in that game hands down. I think it will be by a comfortable amount.

And we can wait for the spread on the bengals. It will be a fun wager.

gales0678 01-03-2010 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I like the pats in that game hands down. I think it will be by a comfortable amount.

And we can wait for the spread on the bengals. It will be a fun wager.


there both at 4

you do realzie welker is not playing?

dalakhani 01-03-2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
there both at 4

you do realzie welker is not playing?

I know. the rookie will be just fine. Do you realize how bad the Ravens secondary is especially if Ed Reed is out or not healthy?

New England has played excellent football lately.

gales0678 01-03-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I know. the rookie will be just fine. Do you realize how bad the Ravens secondary is especially if Ed Reed is out or not healthy?

New England has played excellent football lately.


reed will be ready to go

pats will win if the nlf gives the word and the flags come in

Patrick333 01-04-2010 06:48 AM

I'm not a Jet fan (Eagles) but I certainly wish you guys luck. I hope Buddy's boy can do something that he couldn't, win a playoff game.

otisotisotis 01-04-2010 07:44 AM

Bengals fan here - in case you missed it, they had nothing to play for last night and the game plan was very vanilla. 3 or 4 def. starters didn't play and they basically played base the whole game. I;m sure they'd rather play the Jets again than face a hot Texans team that already beat them at home.
The Jets had fire in their bellies and laid everyting on the line and on the table last night.
Rookie QB on the road in a first playoff game - I would take that as a Bengal fan. And considering the Jets were given the last 2 wins to even make the playoffs makes them a sketchy playoff team at best.
But, either way we will know come Saturday night. :D

herkhorse 01-04-2010 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by otisotisotis
Bengals fan here - in case you missed it, they had nothing to play for last night and the game plan was very vanilla. 3 or 4 def. starters didn't play and they basically played base the whole game. I;m sure they'd rather play the Jets again than face a hot Texans team that already beat them at home.
The Jets had fire in their bellies and laid everyting on the line and on the table last night.
Rookie QB on the road in a first playoff game - I would take that as a Bengal fan. And considering the Jets were given the last 2 wins to even make the playoffs makes them a sketchy playoff team at best.
But, either way we will know come Saturday night. :D

LOL, they're toast.

MaTH716 01-04-2010 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by otisotisotis
Bengals fan here - in case you missed it, they had nothing to play for last night and the game plan was very vanilla. 3 or 4 def. starters didn't play and they basically played base the whole game. I;m sure they'd rather play the Jets again than face a hot Texans team that already beat them at home.
The Jets had fire in their bellies and laid everyting on the line and on the table last night.
Rookie QB on the road in a first playoff game - I would take that as a Bengal fan. And considering the Jets were given the last 2 wins to even make the playoffs makes them a sketchy playoff team at best.
But, either way we will know come Saturday night. :D

I understand what you are saying about them really having nothing to play for, but with that being said they were absolutely dominated last night in every aspect. If they had no intentions of trying to move the ball/score then there was no reason for Palmer/Ochocinco even being out there. Maybe they kept it vanillia, but the fact that they couldn't move the ball at all isn't good.

I could see the game going either way next week, it's actually a good matchup for the Jets and I'm leaning that way (as painful as it for me to say that). You would think as long as the game stays close (I don't believe the Cincy is an offensive powerhouse) it means that Sanchez doesn't have to do that much throwing the ball (I guess you can say Edwards doesn't have to worry about catching it either) and thats good for the Jets. The only negative thing I think for the Jets is, that they played so so well last night and dominated the game so handily, that they might start looking past the Bengals on to possible 2nd round match ups. They really are a brash/cocky bunch (which isn't totally bad), but it's possible that they are thinking that they are going to waltz right past what looked to be an inept Bengals squad last night.

Joey, How cold was it there last night? I remember watching and thinking to myself that, maybe they should have put a dome on the new place. I'm sure the way they played took some of the edge out of the cold, it always does.

GBBob 01-04-2010 09:25 AM

I think it's pretty amazing that three of the four games are Week 17 re-matches..what are the odds of that?

gales0678 01-04-2010 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I think it's pretty amazing that three of the four games are Week 17 re-matches..what are the odds of that?


nfl can't be happy bob

this stat for the playoffs looks good for the vikings:

"Since the NFL playoffs expanded to 12 teams in 1990 with the #1 and #2 seeds in each conference owning a first round bye there have been 23 times where a #1 or #2 seed has LOST their final regular season game (more often than not resting starters and tanking) and then had their bye. But unbelievably only 3 of those 23 #1 or #2 seeds that lost their final regular season game went on to win the Super Bowl!!!! 3 out of 23 in 19 years! I think that speaks volumes as to how big of a factor momentum is in this game and just how utterly STUPID it is to rest starters and tank your final regular season game if you have a bye after that, effectively killing any momentum."




The 3 winners?




1999 Rams

1994 49ers

1991 Redskins

MaTH716 01-04-2010 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
nfl can't be happy bob

this stat for the playoffs looks good for the vikings:

"Since the NFL playoffs expanded to 12 teams in 1990 with the #1 and #2 seeds in each conference owning a first round bye there have been 23 times where a #1 or #2 seed has LOST their final regular season game (more often than not resting starters and tanking) and then had their bye. But unbelievably only 3 of those 23 #1 or #2 seeds that lost their final regular season game went on to win the Super Bowl!!!! 3 out of 23 in 19 years! I think that speaks volumes as to how big of a factor momentum is in this game and just how utterly STUPID it is to rest starters and tank your final regular season game if you have a bye after that, effectively killing any momentum."




The 3 winners?




1999 Rams

1994 49ers

1991 Redskins

Why not? Isn't that what the NFL wants.....Parity.
Which is the quicker way for a NFL head coach to end up on the unemployment line?
Have your #1 seed team that played well the whole season lose in the playoffs?

Or to have your #1 seed team suffer a devestating injury in a meaningless week 17 game with nothing to play for?

I'm guessing that #2 will get you fired quicker. So until that reverses, I really don't see any big changes coming any time soon.

Cannon Shell 01-04-2010 09:58 AM

Congrats to Jets fans on making the playoffs. At least for one round there will be a team other than the Pats to root against...

GBBob 01-04-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
nfl can't be happy bob

this stat for the playoffs looks good for the vikings:

"Since the NFL playoffs expanded to 12 teams in 1990 with the #1 and #2 seeds in each conference owning a first round bye there have been 23 times where a #1 or #2 seed has LOST their final regular season game (more often than not resting starters and tanking) and then had their bye. But unbelievably only 3 of those 23 #1 or #2 seeds that lost their final regular season game went on to win the Super Bowl!!!! 3 out of 23 in 19 years! I think that speaks volumes as to how big of a factor momentum is in this game and just how utterly STUPID it is to rest starters and tank your final regular season game if you have a bye after that, effectively killing any momentum."




The 3 winners?




1999 Rams

1994 49ers

1991 Redskins

Well the Packers and Cardinals certainly went opposite directions yesterday...we'll see how it pans out next week. Ironically, Card mailed it in and rested starters, but had three starters leave due to injury versus Packers who played all out for three quarters, but only had one injury.

Cannon Shell 01-04-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Why not? Isn't that what the NFL wants.....Parity.
Which is the quicker way for a NFL head coach to end up on the unemployment line?
Have your #1 seed team that played well the whole season lose in the playoffs?

Or to have your #1 seed team suffer a devestating injury in a meaningless week 17 game with nothing to play for?

I'm guessing that #2 will get you fired quicker. So until that reverses, I really don't see any big changes coming any time soon.

The problem as I see it is how can you knock teams for losing on purpose to get a better draft position yet condone it in these cases?


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