Azeri's first foal in 3rd at SA
 

Will Baffert have him cranked up?

Wow.. This topic recounts a famous DT moment: the Great Azeri Foal Thread Registration Migration of 2007. About 250 registrants when word got out somewhere that we had photos of that first Azeri foal...

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10016

Here are three shots of Azeri and her new baby...

Yep.

That's what brought me here.

Well... you are widely known as the Prince of the Pretty Horsey set...

A troll told me that there were Laura de Seroux nudes on here. Boy was I duped.

why does Kaleem Shah own the horse, did he end up buying it privately from paulson who didnt want 7.7 million for him at the auction

he was forced to sell the horse, as well as the rest owned by the living trust. MP doesn't seem the sharpest tool in the shed, having bought back vallenzeri and azeri for huge amounts-only to later sell them for a fraction of those prices.

looked pretty good. Probably already moved to the top derby contenders. Ran like a AP Indy Azari should.

Nice run. Look forward to his next

I just watched it and totally agree.
Ivory Fudge is a well-bred colt who might turn out okay at some point and he pretty much had his own way through slow fractions up front. Despite that, Take Control pretty much ran right by him. I'm not sure how fast it will come back, but I thought it was a nice debut.

i took away several positives from the race with the way he wasn't scared to mix it up with the other horses and really showd some good burst when he got thru. it wasn't like the other horses were scroching the earth with those fractions. may turn into something pretty nice. wonder how much the sheik will offer for him??:)

I was really impressed. The number should come back decent, even with that glacial pace it will end up being the fastest route race of the day. He really did it easily and had tons left at the end.

Best 2YO I've seen this year.

Crown Him!! :)

I laughed....

The Indiana Derby winner gets a crown?

I totally agree! and he was very green before agreeing to go outside and once he did goodbye. Anxious to see a TG number for him.

I can imagine he was already pounded at the Future Book at Wynn yesterday.
I was a little surprised he hasn't been listed yet, but I'm sure they took plenty on him in the last 24 hours.

By the way...here's the top 10 horses who've taken the most money so far (or offered the lowest odds at least) at Wynn. Lots and lots of dead money if you ask me.

Looking at Lucky 6-1
Buddy's Saint 11-1
Tiz Chrome 20-1
Vale of York 20-1
Jackson Bend 25-1
American Lion 25-1
Rule 25-1
Nobles Promise 30-1
Sidney's Candy 35-1
Blind Luck 35-1 :confused:

All the California horses seem to take more money from the Vegas futures books anyway, but being Take Control's hype, it being a Baffert, etc...I would guess he's already under 30-1.

With 5 months to the race, and these odds, these are all sucker bets. Every one.

6-1 on Looking at Lucky? No thanks. You will probably get better odds on Derby Day after he flops in the SA derby

I highly doubt he flops anywhere, but you could still get around 5-1 IMO.

Got a very mediocre Beyer of 80 according to Dan Illman...........Tiny Woods got a 90

I dont care about the beyer in this case.....He was green as hell and a first time starter. He is bred all day for dirt, not turf... He is not like POTN, a Baffert who was not really expected to move up on dirt, with this horse there is every reasson to think he will be much better on dirt.

I would take an 80 Beyer first time out, 100 times out of 100. What did you think, he would run a 113?

I thought it would be closer to 83/84, then 80, but I agree...AND it's not like debuting at 2 turns is easy. I keep telling myself to ignore BSF (especially in a race like Take Control's) and then I go out and it's the first thing I look for.

No, and I wouldn't even necessarily want him to run a 90 first out. I was comparing it to Tiny Woods and a few other promising horses that got good BSF. Maybe I harped on it because whenever a horse gets an "ok" Beyer, you hear that he's too slow, that kind of thing. Clearly that's not what people thought reading the various message boards, but overall, BSF seem to be how people judge horses.

Betsy,

Tiny Woods was in an ALW.. going 6f.. in his 4th career start. He got a 79 in his career debut and, after the fiasco at Saratoga, got an 80 in his 3rd start.

If you want to use the Beyers as a measure, Take Control is already ahead of Tiny Woods on the development curve getting an 80 in a debut race going a mile.

That's all true, Steve. I'm annoyed with myself for even being concerned with it, to be honest.

And to be fair, the pace was REALLY slow in the Take Control race, :48.61 to the half- the two MCL's went :46.45 and :47.97 to the half. I'd like to know the other route Beyers on the card so we have a view on how they split the variant. Right now, Deal Breaker should get a 77 if they didn't split it and that would be too low.

That's what I was thinking, glad to hear it from you Steve because my ability to gauge these things only goes so far. I took heart that he was able to do this well earlier than Baffert expected and was mentally prepared for it.

4th: Elmer N Mort (1m, MDN $25k) 65
5th: Fiery Trippi (8.5f, $12.5k CLM) 83
6th: Country Tough (1m, MDN $25k) 68
7th: Deal Breaker (8.5f, OC 62k/N2X) 88

I just watched the replay. I thought for going two turns in his debut he looked pretty good. We don't how he would have reacted to a quicker pace. But when he got clear he looked pretty impressive. A nice win.