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Kasept 12-11-2009 02:53 PM

BC Board approves initiative plan; Sanan elaborates on ATR
 
The Breeders Cup Ltd. Board of Directors today approved a 4 pronged, long-term strategic initiative plan as initiated 18 monrhs ago by Satish Sanan.

Satish will join me on ATR at 4:15 to elaborate:
http://www.clearstreaming.com/radios...sandbeyond.asx
  • Explore the feasibility of a single permanent host site location for the Breeders’ Cup World Championships;
  • Establish a new Breeders’ Cup Racing Series in partnership with North American and European racetracks to better define and market the road to the Breeders’ Cup World Championships;
  • Expand brand marketing and commercial development programs, with an emphasis on digital marketing and social media;
  • Take a new approach to nominations to significantly expand the number of Breeders’ Cup eligible horses.

Also...

Bobby Flay...

Jeff Runco...

Nick Tammaro...

Jason Beem...

Gus Alonso...

Rick Hammerle...

Bill Finley...

randallscott35 12-11-2009 02:58 PM

Why would they want a permanent site?

Scav 12-11-2009 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35
Why would they want a permanent site?

They have to continually mess with something, a permanent site is plain dumb

GBBob 12-11-2009 03:08 PM

Of course it's "feasible"...unless they are planning on holding it on the Moon.

The words that should have been used are Benefits, Challenges, Popularity, Effect, Stupidity, Narrow Mindedness, etc, etc, etc...

DaTruth 12-11-2009 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
They have to continually mess with something, a permanent site is plain dumb

It should rotate between CD and Bel, with a track other than those two every third year.

philcski 12-11-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaTruth
It should rotate between CD and Bel, with a track other than those two every third year.

WHEN Santa Anita goes back to dirt, they should have a 3 site rotation with an other every 4th year.
-Monmouth
-Lone Star
-South Florida

The Indomitable DrugS 12-11-2009 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
The Breeders Cup Ltd. Board of Directors today approved a 4 pronged, long-term strategic initiative plan as initiated 18 monrhs ago by Satish Sanan.

Satish will join me on ATR at 4:15 to elaborate:
http://www.clearstreaming.com/radios...sandbeyond.asx
  • Explore the feasibility of a single permanent host site location for the Breeders’ Cup World Championships;
  • Establish a new Breeders’ Cup Racing Series in partnership with North American and European racetracks to better define and market the road to the Breeders’ Cup World Championships;
  • Expand brand marketing and commercial development programs, with an emphasis on digital marketing and social media;
  • Take a new approach to nominations to significantly expand the number of Breeders’ Cup eligible horses.

Also...

Bobby Flay...

Jeff Runco...

Nick Tammaro...

Jason Beem...

Gus Alonso...

Rick Hammerle...

Bill Finley...

Wow ... what a great mix and variety of guests.

History for the 50-year-old Jew!!!

I choked back tears.

copying 12-11-2009 07:18 PM

They need to hold it on synthetic every year so we can hear Jess Jackson whine.

Kasept 12-11-2009 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Wow ... what a great mix and variety of guests.

History for the 50-year-old Jew!!!

I choked back tears.

:tro:





(Had to make it special for Opening Night of Hanukkah)...

PatCummings 12-12-2009 10:15 PM

Went back and listened to Bobby Flay's surprise appearance on the show...

Simply awesome. Glad he is so passionate about it - hope the sport can harness his passion and popularity.

On a separate note, I sat about 15 feet from Flay on opening day at Saratoga this year. It was about an hour, maybe more, before first post on opening day and Flay was in his box, by himself, handicapping. Amen.

freddymo 12-13-2009 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatCummings
Went back and listened to Bobby Flay's surprise appearance on the show...

Simply awesome. Glad he is so passionate about it - hope the sport can harness his passion and popularity.

On a separate note, I sat about 15 feet from Flay on opening day at Saratoga this year. It was about an hour, maybe more, before first post on opening day and Flay was in his box, by himself, handicapping. Amen.

He was NOT handicapping.. He was reworking a recipe for a THROWDOWN at Carolina BBQ..

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-13-2009 08:29 AM

hialiah church/belmont

AeWingnut 12-13-2009 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
They have to continually mess with something, a permanent site is plain dumb

the non-fans are more important than the fans.

we are taken

for granted

I know
they can have a nascar race going on at the same time as the BC Champonships. All they have to do is move the BC to the old Sportsman's Park
the NASCAR fans will suddenly discover horse racing and...

damn, I hope they don't read this

Scav 12-13-2009 10:21 AM

Word on another board, from someone who spoke with a BC board member, is SANTA ANITA as the permanent host.

Message boards might blow up when this gets announced

AeWingnut 12-13-2009 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Word on another board, from someone who spoke with a BC board member, is SANTA ANITA as the permanent host.

Message boards might blow up when this gets announced


nothing but contempt

jms62 12-13-2009 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Word on another board, from someone who spoke with a BC board member, is SANTA ANITA as the permanent host.

Message boards might blow up when this gets announced

Only thing I can say is , Euro first time lasix.

onebadbeast 12-13-2009 05:56 PM

that will never happen...........

Danzig 12-14-2009 01:58 PM

almost three quarters of respondents (myself included) on the paulick report poll voted against a single track being the host each year. now, unless it's churchill downs, i don't see how that idea could ever fly. the west coast would not want to have to ship each year (especially after running on syn all year) and the east coasters would be in the same boat with not wanting to leave their favored surface for plastic. i think it's a bad idea the more i think about it.

randallscott35 12-14-2009 02:21 PM

If it has to be one I'd prefer it to be CD, but I have no idea why it has to be. Belmont is a great location.

GBBob 12-14-2009 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35
If it has to be one I'd prefer it to be CD, but I have no idea why it has to be. Belmont is a great location.

Maybe because not everyone lives in NY, although I know most New Yorkers feel that way;)

Sightseek 12-14-2009 02:41 PM

Having a rotating site was a great idea because it gives more fans an opportunity to see the BC every few years..

randallscott35 12-14-2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
Maybe because not everyone lives in NY, although I know most New Yorkers feel that way;)

I guess you missed how I said CD would be my first choice if it had to be at one place. Carry on.

Antitrust32 12-14-2009 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Word on another board, from someone who spoke with a BC board member, is SANTA ANITA as the permanent host.

Message boards might blow up when this gets announced


Thats what I heard a few weeks ago from an unnamed source. SUPPOSEDLY.. some people will be buying SA that have BC connections..

also along with that SA may be going back to dirt.

this is all just trade rumors but my source is in the know

johnny pinwheel 12-15-2009 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
Having a rotating site was a great idea because it gives more fans an opportunity to see the BC every few years..

that was the whole idea. if it goes to SA and its synthetic that will be the end of it. racing was better before it anyway.

Kasept 12-15-2009 02:25 PM

There are no decisions or commitments in place. Santa Anita is a possible site, as is Churchill or Hialeah or Belmont... Racetracks are being asked to offer proposals for partnership with BC Limited as possible permanent sites, and a process will evolve from there. And absolutely nothing related to Santa Anita will be determined until the resolution of the Magna bankruptcy.

Cannon Shell 12-15-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
There are no decisions or commitments in place. Santa Anita is a possible site, as is Churchill or Hialeah or Belmont... Racetracks are being asked to offer proposals for partnership with BC Limited as possible permanent sites, and a process will evolve from there. And absolutely nothing related to Santa Anita will be determined until the resolution of the Magna bankruptcy.

The only way a track operator would want to be the perm host is if they own a piece of the action, at least the way the system is currently set up. Perhaps the BC is looking for a big cash infusion from the exclusive operator in exchange for a piece of the pie. That would be extremely dangerous and short sighted on their part. 5 years ago they would have partnered with Magna in a heartbeat and last year a slew of people would have loved to sign on with Halsey Minor. Both would have been huge errors according to the current situation. One of the things that made the BC unique was the different venues.

10 pnt move up 12-15-2009 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
The only way a track operator would want to be the perm host is if they own a piece of the action, at least the way the system is currently set up. Perhaps the BC is looking for a big cash infusion from the exclusive operator in exchange for a piece of the pie. That would be extremely dangerous and short sighted on their part. 5 years ago they would have partnered with Magna in a heartbeat and last year a slew of people would have loved to sign on with Halsey Minor. Both would have been huge errors according to the current situation. One of the things that made the BC unique was the different venues.

I also thought it moved around to help promote and grow the sport...but I guess if the economics are breaking down that might be the reason.

randallscott35 12-15-2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
There are no decisions or commitments in place. Santa Anita is a possible site, as is Churchill or Hialeah or Belmont... Racetracks are being asked to offer proposals for partnership with BC Limited as possible permanent sites, and a process will evolve from there. And absolutely nothing related to Santa Anita will be determined until the resolution of the Magna bankruptcy.

But why are they even considering it Steve?

Danzig 12-15-2009 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35
But why are they even considering it Steve?


$$$$$

Danzig 12-15-2009 03:52 PM

if you look at the race day each year handle-wise, churchill leads the other tracks by a pretty good margin. or at least it did the last time i looked, and i doubt it's changed.

Indian Charlie 12-15-2009 08:51 PM

why are they considering it you ask?

because they are freakin retards.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-15-2009 09:32 PM

Your avatar is sexy.

Indian Charlie 12-15-2009 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Your avatar is sexy.

That reminds me, I need to change it.

I found a picture of Ronald McDonald eating a dismembered person, with blood dripping down his chin, but you can't make out any detail in the limited avatar space allowed us.

It's the only picture more gruesome than the one I'm using though, so maybe I'll use it after all.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-15-2009 09:46 PM

Here you go....use this one....



As cute as I am ... can you believe all those Catholic priests who had a shot at me and passed me up in grade school?

I'm still a little bitter about it. Like I wasn't pretty enough for them or something.

Danzig 12-15-2009 10:00 PM

why don't they split up the bc races between two-three tracks for the day? have the races closer together, make it more t.v. friendly by staggering starts between the tracks. rotate the actual races each year between the tracks. get rid of a couple of the bs races, and put the rest back on one day. by staggering post times, you would have time for post parades, the race, the payoffs, etc, and then switch to the next track for their offering. bam. big day of racing without hours upon hours of jerry bailey running his mouth.

MaTH716 12-15-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
why don't they split up the bc races between two-three tracks for the day? have the races closer together, make it more t.v. friendly by staggering starts between the tracks. rotate the actual races each year between the tracks. get rid of a couple of the bs races, and put the rest back on one day. by staggering post times, you would have time for post parades, the race, the payoffs, etc, and then switch to the next track for their offering. bam. big day of racing without hours upon hours of jerry bailey running his mouth.

Too many logistics for the connections. If you were an owner or a trainer I would think you would want to be there if your horse was running for a 5 million dollar purse. You wouldn't be able to do that if you had one running in the mile at Belmont and the other in the classic at Churchill.
I would prefer to go back to the one day format and just rotate the tracks. But as long as they rotate them, I could live with the two days.

Indian Charlie 12-15-2009 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
why don't they split up the bc races between two-three tracks for the day? have the races closer together, make it more t.v. friendly by staggering starts between the tracks. rotate the actual races each year between the tracks. get rid of a couple of the bs races, and put the rest back on one day. by staggering post times, you would have time for post parades, the race, the payoffs, etc, and then switch to the next track for their offering. bam. big day of racing without hours upon hours of jerry bailey running his mouth.

i suggested that already.

they should have done the dirt races at FPX, the turf races at SA and the synthetic races at HP in this years BC.

Danzig 12-16-2009 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716
Too many logistics for the connections. If you were an owner or a trainer I would think you would want to be there if your horse was running for a 5 million dollar purse. You wouldn't be able to do that if you had one running in the mile at Belmont and the other in the classic at Churchill.
I would prefer to go back to the one day format and just rotate the tracks. But as long as they rotate them, I could live with the two days.

it's not too many logistics. and if it boosted ratings and handle, it would be a good thing. trainers have asst trainers, you already have owners with large outfits who can't be everywhere a horse is running. besides, if you had one in the classic, it would be an easy choice! if you had a rotation of churchill and belmont, and then churchill/cali track, belmon/cali track, each would have the bc two of three years. big days at more than one track would have to mean huge crowds at both, with big handle. having one day wouldn't split the handle, thus lowering it. a two hour telecast rather than four.

adapt and survive, don't adapt and go extinct.

Sightseek 12-16-2009 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Here you go....use this one....



As cute as I am ... can you believe all those Catholic priests who had a shot at me and passed me up in grade school?

I'm still a little bitter about it. Like I wasn't pretty enough for them or something.

Awww, little Dougie was so cute - what the hell happened? :D

johnny pinwheel 12-16-2009 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
why are they considering it you ask?

because they are freakin retards.

i have to agree. these people are like dr. frankestien and they create monsters. they really need a horseplayer or fan on the board because every decision they make is a big fat loser. this is the only gaming or sports business i know of that does not put the "fan" first. then they have the nerve to wonder out loud "why are we bleeding to death?". who are these clowns? do they have a clue? are they intentionally trashing the thing? is there any common sense? and most of these so called turf writers are just as bad. they are wimps. " we have to take it". guess what keep taking it and there won't be any horse racing to write about. everyone bought into the synthetic track craze (ie. snake oil). then they run over it two years in a row and a dirt horse places third in a couple of them. how many more dirt horses are gonna show up? i'm guessing none at the rate its going! not to mention the whole premise of the thing was to highlight different tracks(monmouth spent millions to update the facility the BC is an economic incentive). in case these morons have not been around a racetrack. cold, heat and rain are part of the game. whats next synthetic tracks with a roof and climate control, it will never get that far thank God because they are too broke to finance it! Magna should go belly up, they are just as guilty!


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