Obama excepts his Nobel prize
 

Says others are more deserving. DUH

and now onto important things like turning on the Global AC. I thank the lord for global warming, as instead of being 5 below w/gusts of 50mph we would be 50 below and may have cracked the 100 below wind chill mark last night. I've also observed lower temps exponentially increase my natural gas consumption as evidenced by my spinning meter. I will be forced to start my fuel-efficient Sportage and let idle for 10 minutes before I make the drive to Lowes for more windows sealing film.

I get it! We will be forced into less and cleaner gas and electrical consumption by taxing providers (eventually us) sans Auntie Obama and alike who we will also pay for, to achieve the result of cooling off forcing us to consume more?

Houston we have a problem!

Accepts Dell.

He doesn't deserve it but neither did Taylor Swift deserve album of the year.

it's all politics :)

Even I have to admit that was a strange one

This is almost as good as Florida State playing in a New Year's day Bowl game. I wonder if he included in his speech how his rating dropping. Im also sure he didnt include how he is ruining this great country of ours. I wonder which Chicago area charity is going to get the 1.4 million that he undeservingly won?

Quick question. How do you rate the performance of George W Bush and Dick Cheney? Did they have anything to do with ruining this great country of ours during their 8 year rule?

fsu!!! in 1 case its a well deserved feel good for all he has done an icon.
in the other its a total joke..it really cheapens those who have made great accomplishements in that area..ie

2009
The prize goes to:

BARACK OBAMA for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen his own legacy wile ruining the country in his one and final term.


2008
The prize goes to:

MARTTI AHTISAARI for his important efforts, on several continents and over more than three decades, to resolve international conflicts.



2007
The prize goes to:

INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE (IPCC) and ALBERT ARNOLD ( AL) GORE JR. for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change.



2006
The prize goes to:

MUHAMMAD YUNUS and GRAMEEN BANK for their efforts to create economic and social development from below.



2005
The prize was awarded jointly to:

INTERNATIONAL ATOMIC ENERGY AGENCY and MOHAMED ELBARADEI for their efforts to prevent nuclear energy from being used for military purposes and to ensure that nuclear energy for peaceful purposes is used in the safest possible way.



2004
The prize was awarded to:

WANGARI MAATHAI

for her contribution to sustainable development, democracy and peace



2003
The prize was awarded to:

SHIRIN EBADI

for her efforts for democracy and human rights



2002
The prize was awarded to:

JIMMY CARTER JR., former President of the United States of America,

for his decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development



2001
The prize was awarded to:

UNITED NATIONS, New York, NY, USA

KOFI ANNAN, United Nations Secretary General



2000
The prize was awarded to:

KIM DAE JUNG for his work for democracy and human rights in South Korea and in East Asia in general, and for peace and reconciliation with North Korea in particular.



1999
The prize was awarded to:

DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS (MÉDECINS SANS FRONTIÈRES), Brussels, Belgium.



1998
The prize was awarded jointly to:

JOHN HUME and DAVID TRIMBLE for their efforts to find a peaceful solution to the conflict in Northern Ireland.



1997
The prize was awarded jointly to:

INTERNATIONAL CAMPAIGN TO BAN LANDMINES (ICBL) and JODY WILLIAMS for their work for the banning and clearing of anti-personnel mines.



1996
The prize was awarded jointly to:

CARLOS FELIPE XIMENES BELO and JOSE RAMOS-HORTA for their work towards a just and peaceful solution to the conflict in East Timor.



1995
The prize was awarded jointly to:

JOSEPH ROTBLAT and to the PUGWASH CONFERENCES ON SCIENCE AND WORLD AFFAIRS for their efforts to diminish the part played by nuclear arms in international politics and in the longer run to eliminate such arms.



1994
The prize was awarded joinly to:

YASSER ARAFAT , Chairman of the Executive Committee of the PLO, President of the Palestinian National Authority.

SHIMON PERES , Foreign Minister of Israel.

YITZHAK RABIN , Prime Minister of Israel.

for their efforts to create peace in the Middle East.



1993
The prize was awarded jointly to:

NELSON MANDELA Leader of the ANC.

FREDRIK WILLEM DE KLERK President of the Republic of South Africa.



1992
RIGOBERTA MENCHU TUM, Guatemala. Campaigner for human rights, especially for indigenous peoples.



1991
AUNG SAN SUU KYI, Burma. Oppositional leader, human rights advocate.



1990
MIKHAIL SERGEYEVICH GORBACHEV , President of the USSR, helped to bring the Cold War to an end.



1989
THE 14TH DALAI LAMA (TENZIN GYATSO) , Tibet. Religious and political leader of the Tibetan people.



1988
THE UNITED NATIONS PEACE-KEEPING FORCES New York, NY, U.S.A.




1987
OSCAR ARIAS SANCHEZ , Costa Rica, President of Costa Rica, initiator of peace negotiations in Central America.




1986
ELIE WIESEL , U.S.A., Chairman of 'The President's Commission on the Holocaust'. Author, humanitarian.




1985
INTERNATIONAL PHYSICIANS FOR THE PREVENTION OF NUCLEAR WAR Boston, MA, U.S.A.




1984
DESMOND MPILO TUTU , South Africa, Bishop of Johannesburg, former Secretary General South African Council of Churches (S.A.C.C.). for his work against apartheid.




1983
LECH WALESA , Poland. Founder of Solidarity, campaigner for human rights.




1982
The prize was awarded jointly to:

ALVA MYRDAL , former Cabinet Minister, diplomat, delegate to United Nations General Assembly on Disarmament, writer.

ALFONSO GARCÍA ROBLES , diplomat, delegate to the United Nations General Assembly on Disarmament, former Secretary for Foreign Affairs .




1981
OFFICE OF THE UNITED NATIONS HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR REFUGEES Geneva, Switzerland.




1980
ADOLFO PEREZ ESQUIVEL , Argentina, architect, sculptor and human rights leader.




1979
MOTHER TERESA , India, Leader of the Order of the Missionaries of Charity.




1978
The prize was divided equally between:

MOHAMED ANWAR AL-SADAT , President of the Arab Republic of Egypt.

MENACHEM BEGIN , Prime Minister of Israel.

for jointly negotiating peace between Egypt and Israel.



1977
AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL London, Great Britain. A worldwide organization for the protection of the rights of prisoners of conscience.




1976
BETTY WILLIAMS and MAIREAD CORRIGAN Founders of the Northern Ireland Peace Movement (later renamed Community of Peace People).




1975
ANDREI DMITRIEVICH SAKHAROV , Soviet nuclear physicist. Campaigner for human rights.




1974
The prize was divided equally between:

SEÁN MAC BRIDE , President of the International Peace Bureau, Geneva, and the Commission of Namibia, United Nations, New York.

EISAKU SATO , Prime Minister of Japan.



1973
The prize was awarded jointly to:

HENRY A. KISSINGER , Secretary of State, State Department, Washington.

LE DUC THO , Democratic Republic of Viet Nam. (Declined the prize.)

for jointly negotiating the Vietnam peace accord in 1973.



1972
The prize money for 1972 was allocated to the Main Fund.




1971
WILLY BRANDT , Federal Republic of Germany, Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany, initiator of West Germany's Ostpolitik, embodying a new attitude towards Eastern Europe and East Germany.




1970
NORMAN BORLAUG , Led research at the International Maize and Wheat Improvement Center, Mexico City.




1969
INTERNATIONAL LABOUR ORGANIZATION (I.L.O.) Geneva.




1968
RENÉ CASSIN , President of the European Court for Human Rights .




1967-1966
The prize money was allocated to the Main Fund (1/3) and to the Special Fund (2/3) of this prize section.



1965
UNITED NATIONS CHILDREN'S FUND (UNICEF) New York, founded by U.N. in 1946. An international aid organization.




1964
MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. , leader of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, campaigner for civil rights.




1963
The prize was divided equally between

COMITÉ INTERNATIONAL DE LA CROIX-ROUGE (INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE OF THE REDCROSS) Geneva, founded 1863.

LIGUE DES SOCIÉTÉS DE LA CROIX-ROUGE (LEAGUE OF RED CROSS SOCIETIES) Geneva.




1962
LINUS CARL PAULING , California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA. Campaigner especially for an end to nuclear weapons tests.




1961
DAG HJALMAR AGNE CARL HAMMARSKJÖLD , Secretary General of the United Nations (awarded the Prize posthumously).




1960
ALBERT JOHN LUTULI , President of the South Africal liberation movement, the African National Congress.




1959
PHILIP J. NOEL-BAKER , Great Britain, Member of Parliament, life long ardent worker for international peace and co-operation .




1958
GEORGES HENRI PIRE , Belgium, Father of the Dominican Order, Leader

Obama is the acception to the rule.

touche

.....wow, never heard that comeback......i would say obama has him beat so far.

I agree with you on your statement. About the only thing O'Dumbass is good at is misleading and lieing to the American public. Im going to laugh when he misses the timetables he set for Iraq and Aghganistan. Probably misspelled the second country. Im already counting the days until election 2012 gets here.

How so, specifically? Torture? Putting the country to the brink of depression? Deregulating banks so they can run wild? Starting a war and invading a country on a lie? Lying to the citizens? Creating the largest financial deficit in the history of this country? Ruining the USA credibility on the world stage?

Whoops. That wasn't Obama.

Either you're taking TOO many drugs...or you need more!

Whoops yes it is! and now $1.8 trillion more?
This guy pisses more money than a drunk Kenyan whore awaiting deportation while staying in public housing.

Whoops no it isn't.


PS, you can certainly diss Sam Stein, but what you really have to diss, to make your point and support your contention, is the numbers he is quoting (that he is quoting them doesn't matter) So bring them on - what do you have to prove Obama is spending more than Bush?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_387121.html

ignorance especially your ignorance is bliss! and here's the proof in pictures! See that long red line (4 times longer than the previous year?)


http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/...t-in-pictures/

I see that Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich actually had a lot of good things to say about Obama's acceptance speech (or "exceptance" speech if you're dellinger).
Nice job Obama. :rolleyes: You somehow managed to use a peace-award speech as a platform to justify your newly discovered jingoism. Sure you basically made a mockery of the award you were receiving by defending your hawkish Afghanistan policy....but hey....at least you pleased Sarah Palin. :rolleyes:

My Bad! I certainly deserve the ball busting! :D

Carry on

miraja2 never got to be "hall monitor":D

:)
We didn't have hall monitors at my school. I went to Catholic school K-12 and the nuns did all the monitoring themselves. They never would have trusted us with such responsibilities.

However, the fact that I was busting dell over his spelling error DOES constitute the height of hypocrisy on my part. I'm lost without spell check.

......you live in a fantasy land. good luck.:{>:

?? Nobody is debating the size of the national debt by year. I agree the debt is as big as that long red line right now.

The subject is where did the debt in that long red line come from, Dell? Not what the debt will be in the future. Read your own article - it's nearly all from Bush!

The fact remains Obama hasn't put us into this horrid debt - Bush did. Obama, however has to get us out.


In that last sentence, Bush increased by 2.5 trillion, and the 2.6 trillion in 2009 is just a continuation of that.

Edit: and where the guy above says, "continues" - Obama doesn't have much choice regarding continuing programs that are law. We'll have to see what he does do in the future before we hold him responsible for the imaginary that hasn't yet occurred.

The anticipated budget for this year has already fallen 2%, many less TARP funds have been used than anticipated and budgeted for, a few billion in TARP funds are already being paid back. Obama has already given us a tax cut immediately after he took office.

What's Obama supposed to say? He didn't ask for the Peace Prize. He campaigned on withdrawing from Iraq, and always said he's in favor of going into Afghanistan with increased troops.

Is he not supposed to defend our going into Afghanistan now? :zz: Is it that you don't agree with going into Afghanistan?

your way off if you dont think his staff and others in his realm didnt push for
him to get this award..the good news is most of these people did some prison time before getting it. so he will do his time in jail after..

I realize blaming the Nobel Committee for a poor choice doesn't cross the minds of the Obama Haters.

lots of blame to go around, don't worry

Who is us?

And are you seriously going to argue that Obama has shown to be fiscally responsible or is going to cut taxes going forward? Hell his people are already criticizing the GOP when complains about spending by saying that their economists told them it was "good for the economy". They are trying to now come across as free spending.

And what ever happened to "transparancy" or the end of pork?

Taxes
 

The only way we can really get out of this economic and financial crisis is to cut taxes. Studies have shown that for every $1.00 that the government spends it equates to only about $1.02 going into GDP or essentially zero effect. For every $1.00 cut in taxes GDP expands by about $3.00....

Cut taxes for corporations and individuals.....
And i am a Democrat....

I think you are an oxymoron.

Yes, I seriously say Obama has been fiscally responsible. Up to you to show different.

TARP - carrying forward what was started by Bush. Not Obama's spending initiative - and btw, he has NOT spent alot of TARP funds that are sitting there. He's saved TARP funds to the tune of 2 billion. They were approved, but weren't needed, haven't been spent. Banks have already paid back about 2 billion, too.

He has indeed already given a tax cut. Look it up if you don't do your own payroll.

Would you have preferred a Great Depression to the Great Recession? That the government should have spent no money at all? And should not spend money on any jobs initiative?

Health bill - we'll have to see what the final form is, the final cost, and if it's true it won't be signed into law unless self-funding.

Is going to cut taxes going forward? We'll have to see. You have blamed him for things he hasn't done yet, I don't care to.

Your turn. Show the fiscal irresponsibility. Convince me. Feel free to use facts.

You might check out the new law that was passed earlier this week, on just that subject.

You are so far offbase that it is scary.

Lets start with taxes. Please name the tax cuts that we are seeing. What was passed?

Number 2. Obama is 1-9 to let the Bush tax cuts expire. That act would be in effect raising taxes. There is a better shot of kickin n Screamin being named horse of the year than him extending those.

His first "stimlus" package was $800 billion, mostly wasted. That was his not Bushs'. Here read about his budget...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123569611695588763.html

The falling deficit also assumes the largest tax increase in U.S. history, starting in 2011 with the repeal of the Bush tax rates on incomes higher than $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples.

In the real world, two of every three tax filers who fall into this income category are small business owners or investors, who are certainly capable of finding ways to invest that allow them to declare less taxable income. The real impact of this looming tax increase will be to cast further uncertainty over economic decisions and either slow or postpone the recovery. Ditto for the estimated $646 billion from a new cap-and-trade tax, which no one wants to call a tax but would give the political class vast new leverage over the private economy

The biggest illusion in this budget may be its optimistic economic forecast. The White House assumes that the economy will decline by only 1.2% this year, before growing by 3.2% next year. This assumes the recovery will begin later this year and gather steam quickly to return to normal levels of growth. By 2010 to 2013, the budget adds, the economy will be cooking by an average of 4% a year -- which is also how it conjures up magical deficit reduction

This growth is a lovely thought, but how? The only impetus for growth in this budget comes from the government spending more money that it is taking out of the job-producing private economy. With $1 trillion of new entitlements, $1.4 trillion in new taxes, and $5 trillion in new debt, America's entrepreneurs aren't getting any help soon from Washington.


TARP was a questionable program however if anything is going to be credited with saving us from the imaginary depression, that would be it. Oh yeah Obama wants to spend the rest of that money too despite the law stating that it is to be used for deficit reduction. Remember that thing he was going to reduce? Bank of America just finished off paying back $68 billion to TARP. Citibank is getting ready to pay back theirs.

I like the part where you say he hasnt spent alot of TARP funds. BECAUSE HE ISNT ALLOWED TO!!!! HELLO!!!

What jobs initiatives have been so successful? Unemployment is still at 10%.

Anyone that believes that this health debacle they are tossing together isnt going to cost trillions is drinking thier own bathwater. For the naive, the healthcare bill is supposed to be about "history" for Obama. Regardless of the moral arguments or details dealing with it, it is hardly a stretch to say that it will be extremely costly and the chances that it will do what it says it will for what it says it will cost are extremely slim (and thats being conservative).

The fact that Stimlus number 2 is being conjured up already, that is the new one where we throw small business a bone since they are getting ready to be savaged, shows the ineffectiveness or in some cases waste of the first $800 billion.

Despite the complicated nature of the economic scene, it really boils down to a few simple things. One is that govt spending is unsustainable without a source of the revenue for that spending since so very little of it causes real growth. Our corporations are already among the highest taxed in the world and are getting ready to get hit by a huge new round of taxes to pay for that govt spending. Corporations will not be able to expand nor reinvest already diminishing profits therefore not be able to create jobs or grow the economy. Some will streamline or downsize or relocate off shore.

Then the federal budget which is based upon 3% growth next year (complete pipedream) will fall way short because those darn tax reciepts are short because of those evil corporations not doing thier part. That will force Mr Obama to reignight his spending spree again because you know we need to kick in that economic growth and govt spending is the only way we know how!

I suppose that Cuba and Russia and those other anti-capitalist, free spending govts felt this way too. Thier economies have been great models to follow...

LOL

Like the ones that were going to help the consumers with the credit card companies?

Much like Tiger Woods and Lady Gaga ... Obama proved without a doubt in that Peace Prize speech that he's a complete phony trying hard to project a marketable image.

The only thing left to argue is ... of the three ... who is the most talented at their respected craft?

Randy Moss should be elected president.

C'mon - if you are going to talk about how fiscally irresponsible Obama is, you have to pay attention to what he has done fiscally. Google: Obama tax cut 2009 Most employees got an immediate deduction in their paychecks (cash in pocket) early this year. There are deductions on this years tax form, too. Mortgage, capital gains adjustments. This has been talked about on this board

Okay, you said Obama has been fiscally irresponsible. The above is a guess about the future. We''ll see. But sorry, no, saying he will probably do something doesn't give him credit for having already been fiscally irresponsible.

A blank here. Except for KNS. Good shot at HOY in the $5K and under division :tro:

The first stimulus package kept us out of a depression. You disagree. Draw here.

The budget is not yet passed, so no, you can't use that as something showing his fiscal irresponsiblity, either.

Yes, everyone knows that to use, for job creation and small business "stimulus", $50 billion of the $200 billion of the unused TARP funds and the $200 billion so far of the paid-back TARP funds, would take Congressional approval. Yes, he wants to do it, yes, it has to be approved. He can't take the money and do it on the sly :D

So you think it's fiscally irresponsible to do the jobs/small business stimulus package?

No, not talking about the jobs program, talking about TARP funds, TARP program only, funds that are not going to be disbursed into TARP. Bush started the TARP dispersal, Obama is continuing, but he is NOT going to disperse the final $200 billion already approved before he was elected.


?? Nobody said the jobs initiatives have started yet. Nobody expects unemployment to magically drop to 5% in the next few months. You know about the small business and jobs stuff, you've talked about it here.

So basically, all you have to show how Obama has been fiscally irresponsible is .... the above? And your fear of what he will do in the future?

Not very convincing. He may turn out to be a disaster - and you will be free to say, "I told you so!", but he sure isn't yet. Actually, considering the disaster he walked into, he's doing fine so far.

What would be cool if he selected the other Randy Moss as his running mate - I'd vote for them.

2 credit cards, 1 with 7.24% apr have told me to accept 29.99 and 22.99 or opt out by 2/2010:mad:

i wonder why someone faced with this thinks an adam smith unseen hand free market is the solution.

what's your point? other than the regulation was flaccid and didn't go far enough.

We read the same article and come to opposite conclusions. :zz:

President Bush expanded the federal budget by a historic $700 billion through 2008. President Obama would add another $1 trillion.

President Bush began a string of expensive financial bailouts. President Obama is accelerating that course.

President Bush created a Medicare drug entitlement that will cost an estimated $800 billion in its first decade. President Obama has proposed a $634 billion down payment on a new government health care fund. (that's one year not a decade)

President Bush increased federal education spending 58 percent faster than inflation. President Obama would double it.

President Bush became the first President to spend 3 percent of GDP on federal antipoverty programs. President Obama has already increased this spending by 20 percent.

President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt), President Obama’s budget would add $4.9 trillion in public debt from the beginning of 2010 through 2016.

I just believe and always will that going further into debt as either an individual or nation is NOT and never will be the answer. Unless you have a terminal illness. :D