12/12 Tampa Pick 4
 

PP's drop later today. Just getting a head start on things:)

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Can't wait for that first 3 out of 4, eh Pops? :D

Damn right!! The losses will just cost less now :D

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a No Ness opening day - hmph....

I don't have my computer in front of me, but I thought he had 1 in. Maybe in the 9th?

Edit: I see he's on the AE list

Yeah Kev, he's only got an AE in the Stake race - he's usually good for 2-3 wins on opening day

no ziadie or ness, whats this world coming to? The bennets must be having a party!

We won't be seeing and KZ this meet from what I understand:tro:

Early P4 races 3-6
Late P4 races 8-11

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OMG:eek:

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No Wasiluk = No Auto tosses:(

Oh Boy
 

Jill Ann Jellison

On the bright side I'm glad to see Dale Bennett here, I had heard rumors he was staying in Chicago.

The auto toss/ auto include angle is going to be suspect this meeting if the opening day card is any indication of who's going to field their expected stables here - a ton of new faces on the backside, while guys/gals that usually show up with large stables of auto-tosses (Wasulik, Paquete, Fontana) conspicuously absent from opening day.

On the other side, Ziadie denied stalls, and a very watchful eye on the Ness operation may take a dent out of the number of auto-includes.

Hopefully we'll still get our 50+ Janet Del Castillio runners. And our Regina Sealock mounts. ;)

where is Faine?

Don't recall seeing him last meet either, unless he was riding in the morning trying to pick up mounts

Some of my best Craig Faine memories are of watching Exacta Bob melt down as he rips up his tickets.

Bigs, "You actually used Faine."
Exacta Bob, "Yeah, I used him. #&5#*@, &%$#^%&*&, &^&%$#@, I'll never learn."

can someone give me the back story on ol kirk?


also see that elvis is riding for ward on opening day... awesome, thats all i need to do now, use EVERY single ward horse in EVERY sprint they're in.

one gripe i do have, why 2 races after the feature, i hate that sh!t. that allowance should be before the feature and as usual in keeping the fine tradition of the MC finale where dreams are made and broken all at the same time.


-bt-

Lightning City
 

Any reason why Centeno sits aboard 20-1 AE, while Phil Teator get the Linda Rice handoff in this turf sprint? Agree w/ BT with Easy Ashley - should be a walk, but you'd think Joan Scott would have a little more stroke than that

Wasiluk Jr. has 6 entered next Wed. within the context of the two pick fours.

This the auto-toss guy you mention?:D

Race 8- 3 of the 4 horses V Sat beat have came back to win, and they all have looked pretty good, the only one who did not is pretty bad and I dont think that really matters. The Ward is clearly dangerous, so maybe the 2 of them but I dont see any reasson to spread here. Wards horse had a really good work 2 back at Gulfstream it was 2 seconds the best...

Race 9- 6,8,10 but not feeling that good about it.


Any opinons?

Please play them both very heavily. Thanks in advance.

I just wanted to discuss the race, I guess thats not possible.

It's possible. Can they both win? Sure, but IMO they will be vastly overbet. I have made enough money at Tampa in past years playing against horses like these two. They both show extremely fast works elsewhere and ZERO works at Tampa. I have seen too many fast horses flop at short prices on the Tampa sand. I will let them both beat me.

Truth be told, I am more interested in the early pick 4 than the late one.

Ok then, Im going to scan the early one. Who are the alternatives to those 2then?

Ryvit look like the one to me in the 5th. 6-1 ml is a great price for a single.
The 10 might be the only backup.

How much you want to just leave Tampa alone for the whole meet?

Next year his focus will be on Arlington Park. I'm hoping he skips Gulfstream and stays with Tampa.

I know only one thing about the 8th, there's a better chance of me riding the 11th race than V Sat going off 7/2.

I like Bennett's horse. A lot.

NT

Ok, I'm back. Had to make a late night OTB run so I could make some extra coin for tomorrow.

If you're gonna be awake and wanna talk about the sequence, I'm game.

That's who I'm on too Nick, and she may get overlooked with the other 2 sure to take action.

She'll have to run big to beat the males but V Sat is going to be overbet and Ward's horse could easily spit it after four furlongs. She's a half to Princess Janie, who was a nice horse.

After reviewing her page in the Kee catalog I'm certain I'll bet too much on her if she shows up on turf.

NT

It just looks like the pace scenario sets up really nice for her.

I think I might just bet the 5th. I like the 9.

I haven't made up my mind there yet. Be forewarned, I will be very surprised if you get anything close to ML on Ryvit. Good luck though.

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says the greatest 5-16K claimers handicapper that tampa has ever seen.

Late pk4 is very hittable. Petite Fuego is all over my radar, race looks like it sets up nice for her..... but, you aint gonna get a price on her as long as Dale Bennet's name is attached to that horse. She goes off at 4-1 and not a penny more and is 3rd choice, also might wanna take a look at #1 Place Value here, depending on the track bias... this speed could fold up like a lawn chair, or we could see gate to wire by ward.

I don't care what you say, the feautre is a crapshoot. ANYONE has a legit shot at these turf sprints (on a daily basis), i suggest going DEEP... at first glance 1461011 stand out for me, but wouldn't be shocked if anyone took this one. Hopefully this is just a visit from tony farina and not an extended stay.

if i had to single in the late PK4 it would be reluctantly w/ Dee's Rose in the 3rd leg, but Rocky Candy and Taylor Madison worry me

the finale, as always is a crap shoot

-bt-

[quote=-BT-]I wouldn't single anyone in this race. A few of these certainly are using this as a prep for the Minaret in 3 weeks.

V Sat will get pounded, which is perfect.

The first thing I think when I see horses like this is, why Tampa? Why not wait two weeks and run at Gulfstream?

Well, a quick perusal of the Gulfstream condition book shows me he can run for 100k on Jan 9 or......run at Tampa. There is nothing for a N1X 3yr old sprinting in the first book.

Saturday, December 12, 2009

TRACK: Fast
TURF: Good
Portable Rail: at 0

Weather: Mostly Cloudy mid 70s:wf :wf



Scratches
12/12/2009
Race # Horse # Name
1 3 Poole of Cash (Stewards)
1 12 Gonna Blow
2 4 Mom Extraordinary
2 8 Capulet
3 6 Slievenamon
5 11 Black Belt
5 12 El Commodore
5 13 Sir Deputy
5 14 Cuz You All
7 1a Power Game
9 11 Life Lesson
9 12 Twiceasbeautiful
9 13 Easy Mark
9 13 Little B Rosson
11 2 Tequila's Desire