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alphanumeric1 12-08-2009 08:11 AM

Do you know any stoopers?
 
Stoopers are alive and well in NYC (and I imagine elsewhere).
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/sp...b.html?_r=1&hp
This past summer at Saratoga, I saw this same guy everyday reach right into the trash can that was the equivalent of a spittoon to look for tickets. Pretty freakin' gross. I guess it must have been worth it.
On my next losing streak, I'm diving in.:D

Arletta 12-08-2009 08:23 AM

I wish I lived closer to Delta :D

He even has his own "turf".. too funny...and gives himself an hours lunch break because it's such hard work.

DaTruth 12-08-2009 08:45 AM

I wonder if the reporter asked to see a past tax return to verify some of his claims.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-08-2009 08:49 AM

there is a guy named 'bones'..hes from chicago..i see him at all the tracks..derby/toga/ ect..dell and the chi town boys see him around..

Travis Stone 12-08-2009 09:02 AM

When I was a kid at Saratoga, with nothing else to do, I used to walk around and pick-up tickets. We used to rake in anywhere from $50-100 a day, some days more. One afternoon my cousin found $200 rolled-up in a couple of tickets. Gate scratches, DQs etc.... those were pennies from heaven.

I would then parlay my findings into packs of jockey trading cards.

Left Bank 12-08-2009 09:03 AM

Illegal to do here at CBY.They claim they own a ticket once it hits the floor,and will throw you out if they catch you picking up tickets.

Bigsmc 12-08-2009 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank
Illegal to do here at CBY.They claim they own a ticket once it hits the floor,and will throw you out if they catch you picking up tickets.

What if you are pulling your stack of tickets out of your parimutuel pocket and accidently drop them, are you allowed to pick them back up or does CBY own them?

DaTruth 12-08-2009 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I would then parlay my findings into packs of jockey trading cards.

Like we believe that. We all know you headed straight to the betting windows.

Rudeboyelvis 12-08-2009 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
What if you are pulling your stack of tickets out of your parimutuel pocket and accidently drop them, are you allowed to pick them back up or does CBY own them?

You'd have to ask your avatar - he knows exactly what you can get away with there

Duvalier 12-08-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
You'd have to ask your avatar - he knows exactly what you can get away with there

LOL...+30% winning percentage coming soon to a track near you. Could be a record Tampa meet.

jballscalls 12-08-2009 09:29 AM

this past spring meet at Churchill, they had an inquiry but didnt have the little lights up on their signal indcating it. they ended up making a DQ and changed the order, yet most people had already mucked their tickets because the red dots and sign never came up, and we didn't have the announcers volume on. so when that changed, i told a buddy of mine about,

he went through every garbage can, picked up every ticket in the joint, think he got back like 34 bucks LOL

Travis Stone 12-08-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth
Like we believe that. We all know you headed straight to the betting windows.

For a while I would sneak up to a machine no problem. Then they busted our chups a bit so I would go with my parents. A year or two later that was a no-go but I was one year short of 18 so it didn't matter.

Growing-up my parents gave me $3 / day at the track. I would either bet it, buy a pack of jockey cards or get an ice cream. The goal was, of course, to turn the $3 into $10 and get all three. And that's how I learned how to handicap.

Antitrust32 12-08-2009 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone
For a while I would sneak up to a machine no problem. Then they busted our chups a bit so I would go with my parents. A year or two later that was a no-go but I was one year short of 18 so it didn't matter.

Growing-up my parents gave me $3 / day at the track. I would either bet it, buy a pack of jockey cards or get an ice cream. The goal was, of course, to turn the $3 into $10 and get all three. And that's how I learned how to handicap.


Its funny.. I wonder if the race track contributed to my charachter today... I was betting at Gulfstream with the tellers at 13.. partying in Saratoga at 16 and drinking at the local otb at 18..

And now I'm a mess! :eek:

jballscalls 12-08-2009 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Its funny.. I wonder if the race track contributed to my charachter today... I was betting at Gulfstream with the tellers at 13.. partying in Saratoga at 16 and drinking at the local otb at 18..

And now I'm a mess! :eek:

My dad made my bets til i was about 14, when i sprouted up to 6 feet tall. he finally said "your big enough, make your own bets"

Holland Hacker 12-08-2009 11:54 AM

Over the summer I stopped at Delaware on my way to DC and played a few races. During one of the races there was a late scratch. I was walking past a pile of tickets and for some reason picked them. I was pleasantly surprised to find a bunch of them had the late scratch included. I walked through the casino and picked up a few more piles and again was happy to see more that included the late scratch. I think all in I was able to get back like $30.

I figured it was people playing both the races and the slots and when they saw the results for the race they just dropped their tickets when their number wasn't on them, not even thinking about a late scratch.

To answe rth eoriginal questions No I do not know any stoopers.

dellinger63 12-08-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
there is a guy named 'bones'..hes from chicago..i see him at all the tracks..derby/toga/ ect..dell and the chi town boys see him around..

didn't see him all summer and neither did the fatman. He's originally from Louisville maybe went back there. Actually have his cell and it was disconected around Million time. Hope he didn't get in trouble for his 'side' business. Chicken Man probably had a good summer picking up all his customers.

MISTERGEE 12-08-2009 01:14 PM

i do believe these are a dying breed. used to see them by the truckloads in south florida tracks. I have found quite a few winners just by accident staring me in the face without looking a few times

richard 12-08-2009 01:19 PM

It figures this guy would be hanging out at a NYC OTB. I do amire his tenacity.

Scav 12-08-2009 02:44 PM

The thing that pisses me off about these guys is that they hold up machines. And they turn around and look at you like they are doing it on purpose, like they are a cooler or something.

asudevil 12-08-2009 10:31 PM

I was amazed at the number of uncashed tickets over a 2 year period at NYRA tracks....8.5 million bucks!

Cannon Shell 12-09-2009 12:26 PM

I stooped as a kid at various tracks throughout the east coast. This was so long ago the tickets were different colors based upon the amount of the bet.

philcski 12-09-2009 01:52 PM

I'm thinking of becoming a stooper

dean smith 12-09-2009 07:50 PM

T.D. Thornton's book Not By a Long Shot devotes some time to the Suffolk Downs stoopers. I read it awhile ago, but if I remember correctly, they are described as being the lowest-of-the-low racetrack patrons -- the "unclean". They're like the people who root through your trash at 5 a.m. and fill their trucks with old bicycles and appliances so they can sell the scrap metal.

Good book, by the way.

Making a couple of extra bucks on the side scrapping metal actually sounds like it might be pretty fun. I ain't knockin' it! And I really can't knock stooping, either. I personally would be too embarrassed to do it myself (not that I'm too proud to stoop, but I'd be mortified if someone saw me), but hey, if people are throwing money on the ground...

The Indomitable DrugS 12-09-2009 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I stooped as a kid at various tracks throughout the east coast. This was so long ago the tickets were different colors based upon the amount of the bet.

I'm too much of a germophobe to have ever attempted stooping.

DaTruth 12-09-2009 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I'm too much of a germophobe to have ever attempted stooping.

You could be the first bubble boy stooper. Or better yet, you could hire independent contractor stoopers. They bring the tickets to you. In return you give them a commission on any winning tickets they find. To give them a sense of pride, you provide each a t-shirt, so when your army of stoopers descends upon a major racetrack, all will know that DrugS's stoopers have arrived.

Sightseek 12-09-2009 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I'm too much of a germophobe to have ever attempted stooping.

I find that really hard to believe considering the description you posted on here about your bedroom!

The Indomitable DrugS 12-09-2009 08:33 PM

You really should come see my bedroom for yourself.

cakes44 12-10-2009 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
You really should come see my bedroom for yourself.

Nice try.

dpkovalesky 12-10-2009 01:21 PM

Picking up Disgarded Tickets
 
Anyone else see this article?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/sp...ef=todayspaper

MISTERGEE 12-10-2009 01:31 PM

i guess he kinda just invited more stoopers to visit his locale?

Rudeboyelvis 12-10-2009 01:58 PM

Yup.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33147

Arletta 12-10-2009 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpkovalesky

You would have too if you'd have clicked on the link in post #1

johnny pinwheel 12-10-2009 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alphanumeric1
Stoopers are alive and well in NYC (and I imagine elsewhere).
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/sp...b.html?_r=1&hp
This past summer at Saratoga, I saw this same guy everyday reach right into the trash can that was the equivalent of a spittoon to look for tickets. Pretty freakin' gross. I guess it must have been worth it.
On my next losing streak, I'm diving in.:D

the guy with the blond hair and glasses or his partner the older guy? i've been seeing them there since i was a kid some 2o something years ago. they must find something.

DaTruth 12-10-2009 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arletta
You would have too if you'd have clicked on the link in post #1

That post started a new thread earlier today and was subsequently moved to this thread.


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