Anyone have any 2YOs they like?
 

Now that many of the biggest 2YO races are done for the year, save the J. Paul Reddam Futurity at HOL, does anyone have any 2YOs they like that are beneath the radar right now? I have a few.

Drosselmeyer- I made fun of this horse when he debuted at Saratoga because he had dirt written all over him but was entered for turf. After two decent turf races he tried the Polytrack at Keeneland and ran an improved race. Then making his dirt debut as a MTO he beat up on a soft field at a mile at CD but looked good pulling away from the field. He earned a BSF of 87and his pedigree makes him appealing. He's by Distorted Humor out of the solid mare Golden Ballet, who won the Santa Anita Oaks as a 3YO over eventual Ky Oaks winner Flute. He's currently 200-1 at Wynn.

Take Turns- He broke his maiden at first asking against a pretty decent field at FG. Later on the card when he debuted (11/22) 2YO N1X La breds went better than a half second slower while going the opening half-mile quicker. He received an 88 BSF and his trainer, Morris Nicks, seemed to indicate afterwards he thinks he has Derby-type potential. He's by Seeking the Gold out of the Seattle Slew mare Alternate.

Wow Wow Wow- Making his first start on dirt around two turns, this guy set a snappy pace and stayed on willingly. He's with DWL, which means the Derby is obviously on his radar and he probably will appreciate the added ground.

These are just a couple of horses I had in mind. I still like Discreetly Mine a bit as the Champagne results were quite mixed with Homeboykris getting pummeled and Super Saver looking like a serious horse.

Anyone else?

NT

I like 2.... One of them is Wow Wow Wow, I bet him heavy at Fairgrounds on Saturday and he was rank, and ran fast the entire way and just kept going.

The other is the Giants Causeway who Buddys Saint beat First time out then was DQ'd. I think its Global Force....

I still like Aspire. You can toss his race on the junk and before that he ran very well in 2 losing efforts, but was coming at the end of both, and should fluorish with added ground.

Discreetly Mine I also like, but think he will be a better miler/closing sprinter.

Take a look at Clark Hanna's MAXIMUS RULER who broke his MDN in an ALW Saturday at CD... Could be anything.

Interesting horse indeed, Steve, in fact I kind of liked that MSW race he debuted in as Soldier Field and Boltronic both look like they might be decent.

NT

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 Wow Wow Wow- Making his first start on dirt around two turns, this guy set a snappy pace and stayed on willingly. He's with DWL, which means the Derby is obviously on his radar and he probably will appreciate the added NT

also saw that horse break his maiden on sat. thought the field was gonna get to him but he just kept on going. Gotta take into account the DWL factor, he's probably gonna campaign the horse for 2-3 more races........before years end.:rolleyes:

Sidenote, did anyone catch the kinda stock DWL had for the 2 YO card at churchill on saturday? i believe his main owners Westbrook or West something had a ton of horses in saturday, the majority, if not all them were 6 digit purchases, 2 YO's coming into saturdays card with 9 lifetime starts, he's a HOF and i'm just some guy off the street but i seriously question his training tactics over the last 5-10 years, and why people are still giving horses to him. Is Van Meter still sending him stock?

-bt-

I think it's Westrock. I can't believe anyone would send so many high-priced horses to that washed-up hack. Scav could do a better job.

Penn Natl gelding Peppi Knows ($7k yearling) winner of the Finger Lakes Juvi on 10/31...worth watching. and he was just 2nd in the Remsen.
http://thoroughbredtimes.com/racing/video.aspx

I thought the Hollendorfer filly She's Funomenal was spectacular in winning her debut at HP. I doubt this one will stay around that long, but if she does, she's likely going to be among the top fillies next year.

PG's Giants Causeway cost 1.2 mil and hasn't worked out in over a month.

Said to Holly when the board opened up, "why is this horse entered here when there's other straight maiden races available today? And why is he favored?"

And of course he was the best-looking winner on dirt all day.

liked Biofuel lots for the BC. Will keep my eye on her. No idea what the plans are.

The best site I've found for discovering emerging 2yos is the Twitter page www.twitter.com/derbycontenders. I think someone at Churchill Downs must be doing it because it is loaded with info on 2yos running all over the country. I've gotten some alerts about good betting races from this, too, which can be quite helpful if you play them right.

we got a horse named Smoken Sham at PM this season, has been super impressive, should be a lock on Oregon Championship Day December 14

Just watched his two races on Youtube.

Very exciting runner and he looks like going long will be no problem.

Thanks for the heads up on that one Steve.

Maximus Ruler is a tough one to figure. His dam has produced a whole lot of nothings, and the one decent runner she did produce was a turf sprinter. Her pedigree, however, seems to point more to dirt routing.
Roman Ruler is also an unknown quantity, so like Steve said, Maximus Ruler could be pretty much anything at this point. I did think his race on Saturday was pretty impressive.

I thought that Walking the Beach, a pricey Medaglia D'Oro who won his debut for Calhoun in the Thanksgiving Day finale at Churchill, looks like a very interesting prospect.

It was especially looking at the fractions as well...trainer does not inspire much confidence though.

While not a dirt horse, Lost Aptitude was awesome in each of his two turf wins at the Churchill fall meet.

I wonder if they will at least try him on the dirt, he has such a high cruising speed and just exploded after somewhat fast fractions.

He is out of a Lost Code mare, I know zero about Lost Code, what type of horse was he?

A really damn good horse was what Lost Code was.

Dirt route speed type.

As a four year old, Lost Code raced 7 times.

6 wins with his one loss a close 2nd to Bet Twice in the Pimlico Special, with Cryptoclearance in third.

He made over 2 mil in his career.

A couple of his more memorable races: A great third in a three horse photo in the Haskell with Bet Twice and Alysheba. Bet Twice by a neck over Sheba, with Lost Code another neck back. Fourth was 12 back.

Then his four year old debut he won a 7f race in 121.1 at GP by 15.

That was a really underrated horse that had the misfortune of being in one of the most loaded crops in history.

Lost Code was a good 9f dirt horse who - if I am remembering correctly - cleaned up the 2nd-tier derby races his 3yo year. I know he won here (the Illinois Derby), and I think he may have won a couple of other races of that nature too (Ohio and Pensylvania maybe?). As Indian Charlie said, he had a nice 4yo campaign as well and was just a very good G2-type 9f dirt horse for the most part.

I don't recall him ever doing much as a sire, but oddly enough both Lost Aptitude and Maximus Ruler - two receiving attention in this thread - are out of Lost Code mares.

I'm surprised GC1985 hasn't mentioned Souper Spectacular in this thread.

Argh, don't remind me. My only good opinion all day on Saturday and I forgot to bet him. Liked him a little in his debut too when he was a narrow third at 52-1.

I bet him first out, when he went off at a ridiculous 52-1 (couldn't believe they let him go off at that price with the way Roman Ruler's 2-yos have been running this year), and he nearly won in a photo. I refused to play him this past weekend at 5-1 or so, and that turned out to be a bad decision.

Anyone know much about the Zito Runner "Our Dark Knight"? I think he's a Medaglia D'Oro. Finished 2nd in the slop at Toga to one of Bafferts runners...I think it was Bulldogger. Could be interesting. Think he's training at Palm Meadows and eyeing Gulfstream.

A couple of my favorites are on the sidelines right now but they're back in training and should be ready to run by January. One is a Sadler horse named Sidney's Candy. The other is a Baffert horse named Bulldogger.

Sadler has one named Samardo who ran a very impressive 3rd in his lone start at Del Mar. He was absolutely flying at the end. He's not showing any works right now. I don't know what his injury was or what his status is right now.

I forgot about Bullfrogger, he was the horse who broke his maiden first out on Travers Day, right? What happened to him? Did he race since?

Yes, that's the horse. He has not run since. He came out of the race with shins so they gave him some time off. He just had his first work since the race yesterday. He worked 3 furlongs in :36 at Santa Anita.

I like both of your's.
I also have a thing for TINY WOODS. HE IS TRULY SPECIAL. The way he stopped for me at Saratoga is something I will never EVER FORGET.

Was that before he went and got the s.hit kicked out of him by D'Funnybone?

NT

Or when he couldn't win at Golden Gate

Cant you tell when Im being sarcastic? D'Funnybone is also HORRIBLE, shows how bad TINY really is.

I actually think D'Funnybone could turn out to be a nice sprinter.

I thought you were being serious, I mean I know your man crush for Bob Baffert is ridiculous.

NT

How can I forget? Conveyance has the look of a star for next year.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Baffert aim for the HP Futurity with him though.

Are you saying that Sidney's Candy and Samardo are not good horses since they lost first-time out at 5 1/2 furlongs to Tiny Woods? At this point I don't like Tiny Woods at all, but that doesn't lower my opinion of the other two horses at all. Neither one of those horses were fully cranked up for their debut. The fact that they lost to Tiny Woods at 5 1/2 furlongs first-time out is meaningless.

Both of the races that Sidney's Candy ran in were live races. Marcello came back and won an allowance race and then ran 2nd in a stakes race. Who's Up came back and won a stakes race. Indian Firewater came back and won. The Program came back and won. Those are just off the top of my head. I think there may have been another couple of winners that came out of those maiden races.

Mizz Liza is a 2 year old I like. Gondorf too, hopefully he can speak Canadian

Discreetly Mine beat Super Saver in the latter's debut, but that won't happen anytime soon. I don't think DM wants a step over 7 furlongs.

I think it's way too early to tell on Discreetly Mine. I do like that Hough stopped on him when he did and I think the horse will benefit from it next year.

NT

Believe it or not, that was actually not a bad field. The horses that ran 1-2 in there can run. That horse Sourdough Sam is not a bad horse. In his debut, he had a ton of trouble and still won by 7 lengths. He's got a really nice turn of foot. He had a pretty bad trip in the stakes race. The horse that won the race has really improved and has turned into a decent horse. I think he could compete in Southern California. Tiny Woods' race up there was actually not as bad as it looked.

Both of the top two finishers in that race had troubled trips. The winner was lucky to stay up and Sourdough Sam had a terrible, terrible ride. Sam's come home time in his prior race was outstanding.