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mbahadur 11-30-2009 08:50 AM

2010 Derby Personal Seat Licenses
 
The past 2 years I have had a PSL for seats in Section 222. With the fall meet now over, I called the Churchill Downs Premium Seating office this morning at 502-636-4447 to inquire about mailing of PSL invoices for the 2010 Derby.

They informed me they were no longer offering PSLs in this area (I assume the 2nd Floor Grandstand) and that they would take my request to keep my seats (with a higher face value for the ticket and no PSL fee). I guess my PSL was for a 2-year term and the contract is over. They mentioned there were PSLs available in other areas.

I wonder if anyone else here had a PSL the past couple years and whether they will be able to keep their seats (especially if they were in the 2nd Floor Grandstand). The PSL brochure on the kentuckyderby.com website still shows PSL availability in the 2nd Floor Grandstand. When it comes to Derby seating, it seems like Churchill is always changing their policies and availability.

Cannon Shell 11-30-2009 10:49 AM

It is getting to be cheaper to just do an "IEAH" and buy yourself a Derby contender in order to get access to the good seats without PSL's.

cantknockthehustle 11-30-2009 11:23 AM

I had a PSL the past two years in Section 124. I called them a couple weeks ago to find out the status and they said the two year deal was not an option any more. They did try to sell me another PSL though for a one time fee of $60,000. I declined.

freddymo 11-30-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
It is getting to be cheaper to just do an "IEAH" and buy yourself a Derby contender in order to get access to the good seats without PSL's.

For 3000 a pair I seat in the 300's well inside the 1/16th pole..That isnt horrible considering the event. Sat with Winstar the C. John year and there crew. Its the Derby when are they going to earn 11.17?

joeydb 11-30-2009 02:03 PM

I'm opposed to PSL's in any sport. It's another way to gouge the ticket holder.

randallscott35 11-30-2009 03:24 PM

PSLs for the Derby? I am giving up my Jet tix next year b/c of that garbage.

Scav 11-30-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
PSLs for the Derby? I am giving up my Jet tix next year b/c of that garbage.

You shouldn't, because a ton of people did that when the Bears went to it and almost every single person regrets is because of how much that PSL is worth now, compared to what they wanted you to pay then

And that is the ridiculous Bears

Cannon Shell 11-30-2009 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
You shouldn't, because a ton of people did that when the Bears went to it and almost every single person regrets is because of how much that PSL is worth now, compared to what they wanted you to pay then

And that is the ridiculous Bears

He may not have the 30 grand that it may cost them. The reality is for a couple of grand you can buy a really nice HD tv, get the NFL package, a kick ass recliner and have a better time

Scav 11-30-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He may not have the 30 grand that it may cost them. The reality is for a couple of grand you can buy a really nice HD tv, get the NFL package, a kick ass recliner and have a better time

Is it really costing 30k or are you exaggerating?

I think the Bears were 2500 a seat for normal seating when it started but I can't remember.

Cannon Shell 11-30-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Is it really costing 30k or are you exaggerating?

I think the Bears were 2500 a seat for normal seating when it started but I can't remember.

it's NY.

Upper Level- Between the 30s. $4000 PSL. $1050/year tickets.
Upper Corner- $800 up front, $800/year for 5 years- PSL. $1000/year tickets
Upper End Zone- $500 up front, $500/year for 5 years- PSL. $900/year tickets.
Upper Level 30s to the end zone- $300 up front, $135/year for 15 years- PSL. $1050/year tickets.
Upper Level 30 to corner- $200 up front, $200/year for 5 years- PSL. $1000/year tickets.

Lower Level- Between the 30s. $5000 up front, $5000/year the next 5 years- PSL. $1650/year tickets.
Lower Level- 30 to the end zone. $20000 PSL. $1450/year ticket.
Lower End Zone- $2400 up front, $2400/year for 5 years- PSL. $1050/year ticket.
Lower 30 to corner- $400 up front, $400/year for 5 years- PSL. $1365/year ticket.

Coaches Club Seats:
Lower Level- Top 10 rows between 30 and 40. $4000 up front, $1800/year for 5 years- PSL. $6250/year ticket
Lower Level- 50 Yard Line, Top 10 Rows. $50000- PSL. $6250/year ticket.
Lower Level 50 Yard Line- $30000- PSL. $6250/year ticket.
Lower Level- 1st 10 rows between 30 and 40- $2500 up front, $2500/year for 5 years- PSL $6250/year ticket.

Mezz between 20 and end zone- $2000 up front, $2000/year for 5 years. $5250/year ticket.
Mezz between 20 and end zone- $15000- PSL. $5250/year ticket.
Mezz between 20 and 40- $15000- PSL. $5250/year ticket.
Mezz- 50 yard line- $8000 up front, $3500/year for 15 years-PSL. $5250/year ticket.

randallscott35 11-30-2009 03:40 PM

I have 4 tix and I will not regret it.

Cannon Shell 11-30-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
I have 4 tix and I will not regret it.

What section?

GBBob 11-30-2009 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
it's NY.

Upper Level- Between the 30s. $4000 PSL. $1050/year tickets.
Upper Corner- $800 up front, $800/year for 5 years- PSL. $1000/year tickets
Upper End Zone- $500 up front, $500/year for 5 years- PSL. $900/year tickets.
Upper Level 30s to the end zone- $300 up front, $135/year for 15 years- PSL. $1050/year tickets.
Upper Level 30 to corner- $200 up front, $200/year for 5 years- PSL. $1000/year tickets.

Lower Level- Between the 30s. $5000 up front, $5000/year the next 5 years- PSL. $1650/year tickets.
Lower Level- 30 to the end zone. $20000 PSL. $1450/year ticket.
Lower End Zone- $2400 up front, $2400/year for 5 years- PSL. $1050/year ticket.
Lower 30 to corner- $400 up front, $400/year for 5 years- PSL. $1365/year ticket.

Coaches Club Seats:
Lower Level- Top 10 rows between 30 and 40. $4000 up front, $1800/year for 5 years- PSL. $6250/year ticket
Lower Level- 50 Yard Line, Top 10 Rows. $50000- PSL. $6250/year ticket.
Lower Level 50 Yard Line- $30000- PSL. $6250/year ticket.
Lower Level- 1st 10 rows between 30 and 40- $2500 up front, $2500/year for 5 years- PSL $6250/year ticket.

Mezz between 20 and end zone- $2000 up front, $2000/year for 5 years. $5250/year ticket.
Mezz between 20 and end zone- $15000- PSL. $5250/year ticket.
Mezz between 20 and 40- $15000- PSL. $5250/year ticket.
Mezz- 50 yard line- $8000 up front, $3500/year for 15 years-PSL. $5250/year ticket.

The Jets have abandoned many of their PSLs..My buddy just got his 4 tix from the Meadowlands, albeit at a higher price, but with no PSL upper 10 yrd line.

randallscott35 11-30-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
What section?

Lower corner of the endzone right now. 2 and 2 about 3 rows from each other. 138

Scav 11-30-2009 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
The Jets have abandoned many of their PSLs..My buddy just got his 4 tix from the Meadowlands, albeit at a higher price, but with no PSL upper 10 yrd line.

That is how the Bears did it, there are many that aren't PSL but still season tickets. That is how Geek Squad's tickets work.

Cannon Shell 11-30-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Lower corner of the endzone right now. 2 and 2 about 3 rows from each other. 138

Close to the Fireman?

randallscott35 11-30-2009 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Close to the Fireman?

Very

GBBob 11-30-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Close to the Fireman?

I know he's as obnoxious as hell to non-Jets boys, but I met him at Lambeau a few years ago and he was a pretty good guy

randallscott35 11-30-2009 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I know he's as obnoxious as hell to non-Jets boys, but I met him at Lambeau a few years ago and he was a pretty good guy

To sit through all the Jet games he has to be.

Cannon Shell 11-30-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I know he's as obnoxious as hell to non-Jets boys, but I met him at Lambeau a few years ago and he was a pretty good guy

I'd like to set him on fire.

Antitrust32 11-30-2009 04:04 PM

what the heck is a PSL?

GBBob 11-30-2009 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I'd like to set him on fire.


I could have..had the grill and lighter fluid

TouchOfGrey 11-30-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
what the heck is a PSL?

Personal Seat License

slotdirt 11-30-2009 04:35 PM

I've tried to get in touch with CD and can't even get a return call, and I've been purchasing tickets for five straight Derbies now. That's pretty awesome.

cantknockthehustle 11-30-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I've tried to get in touch with CD and can't even get a return call, and I've been purchasing tickets for five straight Derbies now. That's pretty awesome.

They're probably busy taking calls about the concert

Cannon Shell 11-30-2009 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I could have..had the grill and lighter fluid

Next time

tiznowthegreat 11-30-2009 08:48 PM

How much does a PSL cost for Derby tickets in a section like 122-126? Are there any available still? What other ways to people on here get tickets? I have heard something about twinspires offering members a chance to buy tickets at face value in the past. What is the deal with that? Thanks for any info. I know the expensive online broker option is always available but would like to avoid that if possible.

Cannon Shell 11-30-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tiznowthegreat
How much does a PSL cost for Derby tickets in a section like 122-126? Are there any available still? What other ways to people on here get tickets? I have heard something about twinspires offering members a chance to buy tickets at face value in the past. What is the deal with that? Thanks for any info. I know the expensive online broker option is always available but would like to avoid that if possible.

There were a lot of tickets available around town last year the week of the Derby that werent too much over face

slotdirt 12-01-2009 08:12 AM

Yeah, I was offered extra ticket in addition to the ones I had already purchased last year, I'm guessing because of the economy. Seems to me that CD has picked an awkward time to try to gouge even more money out of their customers. Who really has a gang of expendable income around these days anyway?

mbahadur 12-01-2009 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Yeah, I was offered extra ticket in addition to the ones I had already purchased last year, I'm guessing because of the economy. Seems to me that CD has picked an awkward time to try to gouge even more money out of their customers. Who really has a gang of expendable income around these days anyway?

Did they guarantee you the same seats you purchased last year and are they still available for a PSL?

When I get back to my office later this week, I am going to read through the PSL contract they had me sign last year.

mbahadur 12-01-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tiznowthegreat
How much does a PSL cost for Derby tickets in a section like 122-126? Are there any available still? What other ways to people on here get tickets? I have heard something about twinspires offering members a chance to buy tickets at face value in the past. What is the deal with that? Thanks for any info. I know the expensive online broker option is always available but would like to avoid that if possible.

All you have to do is call 502-636-4447 and the person answering the phone in the Churchill Downs Premium Seating office will try to sell you a PSL and should be able to answer your questions. If you do not get through to this number, keep trying as eventually a live voice will answer.

For twinspires, I think you have to earn a large number of TwinSpires points each year to be able to buy tickets -- otherwise, you go into a lottery-type random draw for tickets.

opusone 12-01-2009 04:09 PM

I am also in 222 haven't gotten an invoice. When I called they said they were mailing them out in batches and weren't finished. I would rather pay a higher face than pay the PSL if I could stay in that area.

tiznowthegreat 12-01-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mbahadur
All you have to do is call 502-636-4447 and the person answering the phone in the Churchill Downs Premium Seating office will try to sell you a PSL and should be able to answer your questions. If you do not get through to this number, keep trying as eventually a live voice will answer.

For twinspires, I think you have to earn a large number of TwinSpires points each year to be able to buy tickets -- otherwise, you go into a lottery-type random draw for tickets.

How much does a PSL + ticket cost in a section like 124 or around there?

slotdirt 12-01-2009 04:39 PM

They aren't selling PSL's for that section anymore, so I'm told.

mbahadur 12-01-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by opusone
I am also in 222 haven't gotten an invoice. When I called they said they were mailing them out in batches and weren't finished. I would rather pay a higher face than pay the PSL if I could stay in that area.

Let us know if you get an invoice to stay in 222 and what the amount of the invoice is per seat? Thanks!!

With this degree of uncertainty lingering, I have to wonder if Churchill is still deciding how they want to distribute their Derby/Oaks tickets in 2010 for the first and second floor grandstands.

mbahadur 12-20-2009 02:30 AM

Did anyone with PSLs or tickets the last 2 years in the 1st or 2nd Floor Grandstand get a ticket invoice yet for the 2010 Derby?

mbahadur 12-21-2009 01:08 PM

From kentuckyderby.com website:

Churchill Downs. online sale of limited two-day Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks ticket packages, which was delayed Wednesday by a potential data error with its new online box office, has been rescheduled for Wednesday, Jan. 6 at noon EST. A total of 3,000 seats have been allocated for this online exclusive.

As promised, reserved seating packages to be sold, which include tickets to both the Kentucky Oaks on Friday, April 30 and Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands on Saturday, May 1, include:

Third-floor clubhouse box seats in sections 312-314 and access to the Secretariat Lounge, an exclusive, upscale, indoor hospitality area that will feature premium gourmet food, an open bar, televisions, betting kiosks and live music between races (50 boxes or 300 seats which range from $6,132-$6,390 per six-seat box);
First-floor clubhouse box seats in section 111 (166 boxes or 996 seats which cost $1,500 per six-seat box);
Second-floor grandstand bleacher seats in sections 222-225 (300 seats which range from $214-$225 per seat); and
First-floor grandstand bleacher seats in sections 121-128 (1,404 seats which range from $172-$207 per seat).
Ticket prices vary based on location. There is a purchase limit of six seats or one box per order. Those who want to purchase box seats must purchase the entire box, which includes seats for six. Tickets must be purchased with a Visa credit or debit card. Minimal ticket processing charges will apply.


I purchased a 2 year PSL the last couple years for seats in the 2nd Floor Grandstand and did not receive an invoice this year for the 2010 Derby. I called the Premium seating office this morning to inquire about whether I could still keep my seats in the Second Floor Grandstand -- they indicated that I might be able to keep my seats and took my phone number and would have someone call be back tomorrow

mbahadur 12-28-2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mbahadur
I purchased a 2 year PSL the last couple years for seats in the 2nd Floor Grandstand and did not receive an invoice this year for the 2010 Derby. I called the Premium seating office this morning to inquire about whether I could still keep my seats in the Second Floor Grandstand -- they indicated that I might be able to keep my seats and took my phone number and would have someone call be back tomorrow

I called the Premium Seating office back this afternoon and was able to purchase almost the same seats as last year in the 2nd Floor Grandstand. The great thing now is that I do not have to pay a $190 per seat PSL fee. Derby seats in Section 222 are $140 ($127 last year) and Oaks seats are $85 ($58 last year) plus a $15 handling fee. Even with the increased face value of the seats in 2010, each seat is $150 lower than last year due to the elimination of the PSL fee.

Drag66 12-30-2009 08:24 AM

That's interesting. I had a PSL for section 123, row A for the past 2 years. After not getting an invoice, I wrote and called. When I called, they said my seats were not available and they stated that I could try to get them online on January 6th (which will be a ridiculous free for all). Churchill has been so inconsistent with tickets for Derby 2010.

mbahadur 12-30-2009 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Drag66
That's interesting. I had a PSL for section 123, row A for the past 2 years. After not getting an invoice, I wrote and called. When I called, they said my seats were not available and they stated that I could try to get them online on January 6th (which will be a ridiculous free for all). Churchill has been so inconsistent with tickets for Derby 2010.

Did you check to see if you could buy other seats in Section 123 or nearby? It might be worth another call before they do the online sale on January 6 (which I agree will be a free for all -- I gotta believe tickets scalpers will see the opportunity to get tickets at face value, which is well below market value).

I am not sure what criteria they used in determining that I could still purchase seats (I have had Derby seats since 2002 and I know they looked up my name on their computer before telling me that I could request to purchase the same seats and someone would call me back).


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