Poll: Job Status
 

Poll: Was your job created or saved, or neither?

Over-simplistic answers....I am retired but care very much about our economy, obviously political which renders it useless.

Give Rodney a chance!

Coach works full time here in Derby Trail with his pictures.:D

Have to remind myself not to click on your links when I'm at work. Thanks

Someone help me out here. Didn't O'Dumbass say that this package would create more jobs? Maybe O'Dumbass can explain to the country why unemployment is still going up. Maybe he could just say it was another one of his lies that he has told the American public and the public believed him again. Reminds me of his garbage he was talking on the election trail that was believed by the American public. Umemployment has gone up in a lesser period of time than it did in Bush's last year. Cant wait for 2012 to get here. Be funny if O'Dumbass isnt the Dems choice for President.

If anybody's job was "saved" how do you know it was and who "saved" it?

It is an impossible claim to support. Depending on what side of the table that you are sitting, it is either brilliant or deceitful. I tend to be of the mindset that it is a little of both.

There is no doubt that many jobs have been "saved" by the stimulus. Trying to put a number on that claim is absurd.

Interesting... on this thread you are claiming that there is no doubt "many" jobs have been saved, yet there is no data. Deja vu.

i have made a claim on here but no where else. Many jobs have been "saved" but you cant try to put a number on it. OF course, in bucks county, you wouldnt know anything about that.;)

Jobs saved = intellectual dishonesty

It is necessary to note, as much as you don't like it, that the Obama administration is not the first to use the "jobs saved" argument.

That said, it's a bullsh*t argument, and I'm touched to see you actually calling a case of intellectual dishonesty what it is.

I agree to an extent. Saying you saved jobs would be honest. Trying to put a number on how many isn't. One could easily make up a number about jobs COSTED. No?

It isnt?

Jobs saved is not possible to establish nor is a counter to any posted number of jobs saved available therefore it is intellectually dishonest. Or in plainer terms, propaganda.

June 24, 2004, remarks by then-Agriculture Secretary Ann M. Veneman:

"Our Rural Development programs also help communities with infrastructure such as electricity, water and telecommunications and with economic development assistance. We have estimated that our rural development programs have saved or created more than 500,000 jobs just since the Bush Administration took office in January of 2001. Recently we have seen more positive numbers showing that the U.S. economy created nearly a quarter of a million jobs last month alone for a total of 1 million jobs created in the last three months and about 1.5 million jobs in the past nine months."

In my opinion, attempting to count the number of jobs "saved" - regardless of which administration attempts to do it - is a pretty pointless and impossible task.

What do ya expect from a cowgirl?

Looks like most of us are just working and paying for the stimulus. Big surprise.:rolleyes:

....you think he cares......name one thing he has said that isnt complete B.S. his only goal is a socialistic america......and he is relentless, he doesnt care what the majority wants....he will crush anyone in his path.

This is still relevant...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38072510...il_and_energy/

:tro:

Well...let's have it.

jobs that are paid for with tax dollars are not a positive thing. Of course Nancy Pelosi thinks that unemployment creates jobs.

yea, it's much better spending tax money on wars

Wars are ok. Solar energy is not.

How about going to war with solar powered weapons?

Okay, Its monday and I'm bored. Sorry.

yea, you're right. My favorite war is The War On Drugs, with God's help and a few more billion we could get rid of all those pesky little bastards.

:tro::tro::tro::tro:

They're going about it the wrong way. Legalize the drugs, but make it illegal to dilute the drugs. Make a "drug purity law". You can sell only "100% pure" white powders.

The resulting overdoses will diminish the drug using population faster and more completely than any enforcement action can. A little Darwinism goes a long way.

This gets it right: the president's position on "created or saved" jobs is embarassing:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...line-baum.html

Looks like the "saved or created" metric is being retired in favor of "supported".

Predictable. Now one word conveys even more unmeasurable "data" than before. But hey, if whomever is still left in the Obama supporter crowd is dumb enough to buy it, then it's a success.

Politics 101, Change the wording to obfuscate or give plausible deniability and give yourself an out when proven wrong.

Who can forget http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bibJ_blog.html

I challenge you to actually read the article and understand it.

its really really sad if three studies can research and say that the stimulus had a very minimal effect on the economy when you consider how much the bill cost. It was a HUGE waste of money and probably Obama's biggest failure.

It's really good when six studies say it created thousands of jobs, and saved us from the depression, had a significant and postive effect on economic growth, and it worked.

Obama's biggest success, other than being the first President of either party (and yes, Republicans used to be in favor of health care reform) to be able to pass any health care reform

yep, it worked just like it was supposed to right? Like "this bill has to be passed or unemployment will go higher than 8%"

It was an epic failure, and will prove to cause more damage than good when we actually pay back the bill.

That quote is from one report before the bailout, one written by economist Christina Romer, and yeah, it turned out the economic mess was far worse than any economist predicted.

But no, the majority of economics studies clearly say, especially as we now have hindsight to actually measure impact and financial effects, that the stimulus provided jobs and helped keep the economy out of depression. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but there is clearly a preponderance of objective evidence that shouldn't be ignored in forming it.