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richard 10-16-2009 11:00 AM

NYBSC fall sale Sun. 10/18
 
http://nybreederssales.com/
Looks like an impressive catalogue .

Linny 10-16-2009 12:49 PM

I'll be there but it wil be sad. I hate to say it but alot of them will not get bids. I might look for riding horse prospects as they will be abundant and cheap.

Cannon Shell 10-16-2009 12:50 PM

It does?

The Indomitable DrugS 10-16-2009 12:54 PM

It can't be any worse than OBS June '08.

richard 10-16-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
It does?

These are NY breds and they do very well , thank you .

Cannon Shell 10-16-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by richard
These are NY breds and they do very well , thank you .

This is a terrible group of horses regardless of where they were bred. There may be 5 or 6 worth owning.

freddymo 10-16-2009 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
This is a terrible group of horses regardless of where they were bred. There may be 5 or 6 worth owning.

Hip 3 is a Dixie Union first foal from an OK family

freddymo 10-16-2009 04:54 PM

I would bid on 3 13 and 22..They may look live Scav's but the pages are OK

richard 10-16-2009 07:17 PM

beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

GBBob 10-16-2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by richard
beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

Are you going to bid on any?

Scav 10-16-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
I would bid on 3 13 and 22..They may look live Scav's but the pages are OK

??

Cannon Shell 10-16-2009 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Hip 3 is a Dixie Union first foal from an OK family

Why is he in this sale?

freddymo 10-16-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Why is he in this sale?


No clue? I would guess she looks like a frog?

richard 10-17-2009 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Linny
I'll be there but it wil be sad. I hate to say it but alot of them will not get bids. I might look for riding horse prospects as they will be abundant and cheap.

i'll give you 25 cents to ride your horsey at the kmart to get lost...we don't appreciate your comments or attitude in NY .

Bigsmc 10-17-2009 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Are you going to bid on any?

Methinks he's selling one and trying to sucker you and Chuck into overpaying for it.

He's whitewashing the fence Tom Sawyer style.

reese 10-17-2009 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Methinks he's selling one and trying to sucker you and Chuck into overpaying for it.

.

He has enough cheap KY breds already.

GBBob 10-17-2009 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by reese
He has enough cheap KY breds already.

I didn't know Smart Strikes were cheap?

Sightseek 10-17-2009 08:31 AM

Who cares what they cost - it's how they run.

freddymo 10-17-2009 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I didn't know Smart Strikes were cheap?

200 bucks pound is very cheap considering you are going to be selling "One Off" for 20,000 per pound in about 2 years.. . So our friend is right he was cheap relative to his eventual price.

GBBob 10-17-2009 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
200 bucks pound is very cheap considering you are going to be selling "One Off" for 20,000 per pound in about 2 years.. . So our friend is right he was cheap relative to his eventual price.

I was never any good at algebra

freddymo 10-17-2009 09:03 AM

Speaking of names for the Smart Strike.. How about Oneoffwonon?

freddymo 10-17-2009 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I was never any good at algebra

Let me make it easy. So the PO comes in at X and your cost is X - .50 and it is for Y units and Y equals 1 mill..What is your commission after the charge back?..lol

GBBob 10-17-2009 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Let me make it easy. So the PO comes in at X and your cost is X - .50 and it is for Y units and Y equals 1 mill..What is your commission after the charge back?..lol

Now you're talking my language

Linny 10-17-2009 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by richard
i'll give you 25 cents to ride your horsey at the kmart to get lost...we don't appreciate your comments or attitude in NY .

I live in NY, work in racing in NY and ride show horses that come off tracks here. Had it not been for a lack of stall space, I'd have bought 2 or 3 last year at this sale. Both were mares, once brought no bid and the other went for $1k. I imagine that since the market overall is down, ALOT that the NY market will be too.
I saw some very nice yearlings out of major winners and producers, sired by very good sires draw pitiable bids in KY last month.
I let several of my "horseshow" friends know about this sale. Last year I walked through shedrows late in the day and was offered 4 or 5 horses for FREE, as long as I could get them off of the grounds. One was a great looking mare with a pedigree that sporthorse folks love. If breeders/sellers are that desperate to unload stock, I doubt that they would care if they go to a racing or pleasure riding/show home.

richard 10-18-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Who cares what they cost - it's how they run.

You got it ! Sale topper so far is #4 $55k City Zip filly, followed by #65 Gone West filly $50k.
http://nybreederssales.com/sales/oct...-results.shtml
Linda Rice is working the sale, as usual, with 3 purchases fo far .

richard 10-18-2009 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
I would bid on 3 13 and 22..They may look live Scav's but the pages are OK

#3 $17k rna, #13 out (there are over 50 outs), #22 out. hip #12 went for $14,500 to Carlos Martin. An interestingly bred colt
http://nybreederssales.com/sales/oct09/12.pdf

MISTERGEE 10-18-2009 02:30 PM

anyone know if midas eyes is still standing in ny and how his foals have done or look

Cannon Shell 10-18-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by richard
#3 $17k rna, #13 out (there are over 50 outs), #22 out. hip #12 went for $14,500 to Carlos Martin. An interestingly bred colt
http://nybreederssales.com/sales/oct09/12.pdf

Are you somehow connected to this sale?

richard 10-18-2009 02:39 PM

No . I just find it interesting . I note that there are few NY sired horses . Must be more breeding for racing from the NY sires.

richard 10-18-2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MISTERGEE
anyone know if midas eyes is still standing in ny and how his foals have done or look

hip #21, weanling filly, went for $14k and the page looks decent...physically i have no clue.
http://nybreederssales.com/sales/oct09/21.pdf
he has #137, a yearling filly http://nybreederssales.com/sales/oct09/137.pdf , and #145, a yearling filly http://nybreederssales.com/sales/oct09/145.pdf coming up so pick up your phone. if you want to.

Cannon Shell 10-18-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by richard
No . I just find it interesting . I note that there are few NY sired horses . Must be more breeding for racing from the NY sires.

That and most babies by NY sires wont bring much at a public auction. Congaree was a nice addition

MISTERGEE 10-18-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by richard
hip #21, weanling filly, went for $14k and the page looks decent...physically i have no clue.
http://nybreederssales.com/sales/oct09/21.pdf
he has #137, a yearling filly http://nybreederssales.com/sales/oct09/137.pdf , and #145, a yearling filly http://nybreederssales.com/sales/oct09/145.pdf coming up so pick up your phone. if you want to.

thanks, 21 looked like best of the 3 on paper

richard 10-18-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
That and most babies by NY sires wont bring much at a public auction. Congaree was a nice addition

So true. One should really swallow hard and be ready to race those or take a beating at the auction.

Cannon Shell 10-18-2009 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by richard
So true. One should really swallow hard and be ready to race those or take a beating at the auction.

Or consider not breeding at all

richard 10-18-2009 02:59 PM

Agreed. More breedings need to be thought out before diving in . hip #138 http://nybreederssales.com/sales/oct09/138.pdf , yearling colt, just went rna $44k by Mutakddim/Miss Rochester -Southern Halo. a prior City Zip weanling rna'd for $37k http://nybreederssales.com/sales/oct09/77.pdf ...and Elusive Quality filly #33 rna $125k http://nybreederssales.com/sales/oct09/33.pdf

Linny 10-18-2009 05:35 PM

The book was far stronger this year than last. I saw the City Zip topper and the Gone West and both looked like nice horses, though weanlings are very tricky to gauge.
I saw some very nice looking yearling walk by me while I was standing outside, I didn't catch their prices. It's the older mares I worry about. Though some have nice breeding themselves, most of the mares at this sale are older and with no record or producing runners that win or place in stakes. Let's face it, they give out black type for even the cheapest NY stakes at F'lakes etc yet I saw little blacktype produce from those mares.
As I was leaving I met a pretty grey Mining mare in foal to Pure Prize. I'd have loved to have taken her home, she was sweet and her handler said she'd love to be pet. I have a (maybe misguided) theory that the Pure Prize babies are better on synthetic tracks, so I'd have given the baby to Chuck to train in KY and Chicago. If I gave the foal away it would be guaranteed to win a BC race, if they ever run on Poly again.

Cannon Shell 10-18-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny
The book was far stronger this year than last. I saw the City Zip topper and the Gone West and both looked like nice horses, though weanlings are very tricky to gauge.
I saw some very nice looking yearling walk by me while I was standing outside, I didn't catch their prices. It's the older mares I worry about. Though some have nice breeding themselves, most of the mares at this sale are older and with no record or producing runners that win or place in stakes. Let's face it, they give out black type for even the cheapest NY stakes at F'lakes etc yet I saw little blacktype produce from those mares.
As I was leaving I met a pretty grey Mining mare in foal to Pure Prize. I'd have loved to have taken her home, she was sweet and her handler said she'd love to be pet. I have a (maybe misguided) theory that the Pure Prize babies are better on synthetic tracks, so I'd have given the baby to Chuck to train in KY and Chicago. If I gave the foal away it would be guaranteed to win a BC race, if they ever run on Poly again.

I appreciate the theoretical support!

Cannon Shell 10-19-2009 01:08 PM

final numbers poor

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...000-in-ny-sale


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