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ARyan 10-11-2009 01:46 PM

Who is more overhyped? Obama or Zenyatta?
 
Discuss...

hi_im_god 10-11-2009 01:56 PM

if zenyatta had been awarded hoy for 2009 in february 2009, it wouldn't be her fault.

stop blaming the victim.

ARyan 10-11-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
if zenyatta had been awarded hoy for 2009 in february 2009, it wouldn't be her fault.

stop blaming the victim.

Who is placing blame...just asking who is more overhyped, perhaps you missed the question...

Rileyoriley 10-11-2009 02:23 PM

Obama. At least Zenyatta goes out and does her job.

Danzig 10-11-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rileyoriley
Obama. At least Zenyatta goes out and does her job.


:tro:

one talks the talk, and the other walks the walk.

Riot 10-11-2009 04:06 PM

Overhyped is in the mind of the detractor.

Caveat: except if discussing Sarah Palin ... :D

hi_im_god 10-11-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ARyan
Who is placing blame...just asking who is more overhyped, perhaps you missed the question...

my bad.

zenyatta.

hi_im_god 10-11-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Overhyped is in the mind of the detractor.

Caveat: except if discussing Sarah Palin ... :D

i love sarah. she's the new bush.

someone the right loves until they don't.

then it's like the previous 8 years never happened. bush? what bush? why is everyone talking about bush? it's time to move on.

everyone else can see she's an idiot but she has a constituency that thinks she's going to save the republican party don'tcha know (wink. smile.)

root for her.

dellinger63 10-11-2009 07:29 PM

unless Zenyatta gets HOY for 2010 at the 2009 awards Obama wins by 30 plus lengths.

Coach Pants 10-11-2009 07:43 PM


Riot 10-11-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i love sarah. she's the new bush.

I'd take the latest Bush a hundred times over the former mayor of Wasilla. Liz Cheney is the new Bush. Well, the new Cheney. Which is scarier. She'll beat the shiat out of Sarah in the primaries.

Sarah is apparently a failure on the lecture circuit. Not alot of interest. Must be why the book is out so quickly. That and Todd quit his oil field job. Need the money. Too bad nobody looked up the definition of "rogue" before she claimed it as her own in the book title :tro:

brianwspencer 10-11-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i love sarah. she's the new bush.

someone the right loves until they don't.

then it's like the previous 8 years never happened. bush? what bush? why is everyone talking about bush? it's time to move on.

everyone else can see she's an idiot but she has a constituency that thinks she's going to save the republican party don'tcha know (wink. smile.)

root for her.

She won't be a "real conservative" when the time comes to assess her legacy, and everyone will pretend they were calling her out on it for years.

The Indomitable DrugS 10-14-2009 12:01 PM

Tim Tebow

cmorioles 10-14-2009 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Tim Tebow

Can't believe he is even in the Heisman discussion right now.

Gander 10-14-2009 01:15 PM

Forever Together and Munnings.

GBBob 10-14-2009 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
She won't be a "real conservative" when the time comes to assess her legacy, and everyone will pretend they were calling her out on it for years.


Legacy??....LEGACY?? Oh my god..She isn't worthy of a tombstone

timmgirvan 10-14-2009 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Legacy??....LEGACY?? Oh my god..She isn't worthy of a tombstone

WOW...that's pretty harsh.........even for a liberal!:D

GBBob 10-14-2009 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
WOW...that's pretty harsh.........even for a liberal!:D

Hey..you guys have no right to bitch about nastiness man

ARyan 10-15-2009 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Forever Together and Munnings.


Comparing her to Munnings is a joke. Unreal...

joeydb 10-15-2009 06:41 AM

Obama. Zenyatta might actually deserve the whatever Eclipse awards she wins.

Obama is noteworthy as a destructive force however. He's destroying the dollar, and whatever freedom and independence Americans have left in pursuit of his socialist policies, especially on healthcare. He unwittingly diminished the Nobel Peace Prize by accepting it without doing anything worthy of such an award. He's on the air so much these days that by uttering inane, meaningless generalities and platitudes he's actively relegating himself and the office of president to "static" and "chatter" -- a phrase he has used to describe his opposition, ironically enough.

I find the repeated bashing of Sarah Palin amusing, as she does not hold a national office, her participation in the 2008 election was a year ago, and she has resigned her governorship. Yet the lefty loons still attack her. It's amusing because it shows what a real threat she is -- a conservative woman who has a traditional family, is pro-life and walks the walk on that since her son has a disability, and, yes I'll say it -- she's attractive and doesn't hurt the eyes like others in public life. For all the mocking of her as being less than intelligent -- she could easily have answered any of the softball questions that Obama has gotten up to election day. The media treatment of him is right out of Orwell's 1984: pretty soon we'll have jumbotrons of his face everywhere like Time's Square, just like the movie.

I think you liberals ought to keep on digging your own graves because election night 2010 is going to be fun to watch. I'll be getting out the popcorn and beer watching the sea of Republican red that's going to fill in the map.

timmgirvan 10-15-2009 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Hey..you guys have no right to bitch about nastiness man

The "politics of personal destruction" started with Bubba and the Warden!

Gander 10-15-2009 01:13 PM

Asiatic Boy and Lucky Island.

Gander 10-15-2009 02:18 PM

Jonathon Papelbon and Billy Wagner.

Gander 10-15-2009 03:32 PM

Andy Roddick...the all time most overhyped.

GBBob 10-15-2009 03:48 PM

Pace Advantage

timmgirvan 10-15-2009 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Andy Roddick...the all time most overhyped.

TRue Dat!

timmgirvan 10-15-2009 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Pace Advantage

Nice segue,GBBob!:p

Riot 10-15-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
The "politics of personal destruction" started with Bubba and the Warden!

Did you forget about McCarthy?

dellinger63 10-15-2009 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Did you forget about McCarthy?

Abraham Lincoln?

Riot 10-15-2009 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Abraham Lincoln?

There was quite a fuss around George Washington, too :eek:

Riot 10-15-2009 08:08 PM

I find the repeated defense of Sarah Palin amusing, and Palin herself is certainly fair game, as she hasn't yet removed herself from consideration for national office in 2012, and in fact has a book about to come out, keeping herself in the public eye.

Holding a national office certainly isn't a requirement for comment on those elected by constituents to public life, or those that aspire to it.

Palin isn't attacked as much as she's mocked for the truth about her. A bit of a difference :D Attack would be nastier - maybe saying something that isn't true. Lying would be an "attack" in my book ... maybe something like deliberately spreading lies that someone isn't an American citizen, isn't the religion they claim to be, (saying they are a religion they are not), and also then implying that those of that particular other religion are terrorists just because they are a member of that religion.

Lying and religious prejudice doesn't play with with the traditional American "melting pot, Statue of Liberty, welcome open arms to the world" values that I am aware of. Nearly all Americans are descendents of immigrants from around the world, and I always thought everyone was welcomed into America, no matter their nationality or religious beliefs.

Palin quit her governorship, as she quit being mayor of Wasilla, as she quit four colleges before that. She's not known for finishing what she started. America has always prided itself on being built by hardworking citizens.

Palin was publically found guilty of ethics violations and she publically, amazingly, denied it.

Cognitive dissonance may be a good qualification for national office, though :D

She is still fighting ethics violations. As mayor of Wasilla, when she quit early, she left the town markedly more in debt than when she took office. As governor of Alaska, she created annual "government handouts" - free money - to all Alaskans, including children. Pretty "liberal" fiscal agenda, Palin had!

"Conservative woman with a traditional family" ? Traditional to whom? She was pregnant herself out of wedlock (she was pregnant when she married). Her daughter is pregnant out of wedlock, didn't finish high school, and didn't marry the father. Palin follows a religion that had a pastor literally "cast out her demons".

Nothing wrong with any of the above in my book, but it isn't anywhere near what is touted in America as "conservative" or "traditional" family values. Quite a "liberal" family, it seems :)

Sarah Palin could answer "softball" questions? She wasn't able to. She thought Africa was a country, and couldn't name one newspaper.

dellinger63 10-15-2009 08:17 PM

not even close

a liberal family consists of a cheating husband, a manly woman and a daughter who looks like neither who all pretend to be together or a variation there of....A Republican family destructs once the cheating husband declares his side piece to be his 'soul-mate'.

Riot 10-15-2009 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
not even close

a liberal family consists of a cheating husband, a manly woman and a daughter who looks like neither who all pretend to be together or a variation there of....A Republican family destructs once the cheating husband declares his side piece to be his 'soul-mate'.

"My Name Is Earl" meets "Going down the Appalachian Trail" ?

dellinger63 10-15-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
"My Name Is Earl" meets "Going down the Appalachian Trail" ?

:tro: :tro:

and we pay and pay no matter what's on

ARyan 10-15-2009 09:33 PM

Who exactly in the media is "hyping" Sarah Palin? Seems to me all she gets is degraded, perhaps deservingly so, however, overhyped? Not at all...

timmgirvan 10-15-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Did you forget about McCarthy?

TRY this century.....sheesh!

Gander 10-16-2009 11:00 AM

Andy Beyer and Angelina Jolie.

Cannon Shell 10-16-2009 03:49 PM

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009...socialism.html

GBBob 10-16-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

That's awesome

Democracy Corps suggested that it might hurt Mitt Romney and boost Sarah Palin.

Riot 10-16-2009 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Just more bad news for the GOP. The ultra-conservative paranoids will kill it off completely as a political force. The moderate GOP recognize this and are already trying to distance themselves now.


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